I wouldn't be surprised at all if yeg had more foggy days where a CATII would be helpful vs YYC. YEG also does not even have centerline lighting, so your approach ban is 1600 rvr vs 1200 with. YEG air side really is showing its lack of updates and general up keep.

They even had the centerlines ripped up maybe 5-6 years ago and didn't do it then.

Is this another fail of the YYC airport that everyone at YYC keeps on talking about? Seems like poor planning.

Oh good we can add this to our list of stupidity that the YEG leadership is a leader in. We do have a casino, small outlet mall and a racetrack that YEG has developed. This is an open invitation for all SSP commenters to come to YEG to experience these things next to our airport. I mean who needs to go to Las Vegas right lol. We also can't make any promises that you will arrive during foggy conditions but YYC will take you with pleasure and you may get a free white cowboy hat lol.

Nah they didn't really have much choice on where this went. The alternative would've been where the current West De-Ice Apron is. For the primary de-ice to have been at the corner of Juliet and Golf would've required demolition of all the cargo buildings, the fire hall, and airside vehicle refuelling. The current location is the best possible spot for expansion and glycol processing. YYC is a big rat's nest with design decisions dating back to WW2. It's a 12 layer sandwich with a piece of bread added every 10 years, and there's really only one place to put the next slice of bread :koko:

With the West Runway Rehabilitation Project, I believe there's some sort of Cat II ILS capability being added. I don't think it's a full CAT II/III but something is going in to make the approach limits for 35L better. If someone knows exactly what's going in please chime in. The main part of a CAT II/III is the lighting and IPU. You can expect some improvements to those.

This will help with traffic flow in low vis ops. Arrivals 35L at 16 arrivals an hour, then depart 35R at an aircraft's leisure. They can do engine clearing in position, take their time to line up, reduced power take-off, whatever they want! No Departure/Arrival separation to worry about. What a dream!

^ They’ll need to add centreline lights to 17R/35L. With centerline lights, along with the SSALR approach lights, you could theoretically have SA CATII ILS approaches (SA for special authorization). It will need to be approved by TC, as it doesn’t meet the lighting requirements for a full CATII approach.

Don’t think Canada has these kind of reduced lighting CATII approaches yet, but the US has plenty of them.

Here’s an example from Albany, NY.
Notice the runway doesn’t have standard CATII/III approach lights. There is a note in the top left corner that says “ Reduced Lighting: Requires specific OPSPEC, MSPEC, or LOA approval and use of autoland or HUD to touchdown.”

https://aeronav.faa.gov/d-tpp/2213/00010I1SAC2.PDF

BOS even has SA CAT I approaches. Minimums down to 150ft, RVR 1400.

Looks like AC update domestic/long hual schedule again

Notable changes:

YYZ-YWG/YOW/YYB/YXU/YTS/CVG increase frequency
YVR-PHX/YKA/YLW/YXE increase frequency

YYZ-MSP/CMH/IND/PIT/PHL reduce frequency
YVR-BOS/AUS/SEA reduce frequency
YUL-LAS/ZBF/BOS reduce frequency

YYZ-BOS/DFW/AUS to mainline with reduce frequency
YVR-SAN/YXY to express with increase frequency
YYZ-MSY to rouge with reduce frequency

YYC-YWG mainline flight removed

YVR posted November numbers as well.

https://www.yvr.ca/-/media/yvr/docum...fic-update.pdf

Total: 1,661,138

Domestic: 890,385
International: 373,383
Transborder: 397,370

YTD total: 17,262,134

Monthly passenger stats November 2022​

Terminal​

Terminal Traffic: 498,602 passengers (4,865,199 Year-to-date)
Domestic 396,740 passengers (4,274,685 Year-to-date)
Transborder 59,400 passengers (370,696 year-to-date)
International 42,462 passengers (219,818 year-to-date)
Terminal percent growth (%)​

Terminal: 71.7% (142.6% Year-to-date)
Domestic 58.1% (119.7% Year-to-date)
Transborder 254.4% (1184.2% year-to-date)
International
86.9% (606.2% year-to-date)
Fixed Base Operators (FBO)*​

44,218 passengers (433,888 Year-to-date)
*FBO passengers are the passengers using the fixed base operators at YEG and not the main terminal. Most of this traffic serves energy and mining projects in the North.
FBO percent growth (%)​

23.2% (7.4% Year-to-date)
Total passengers (Terminal and FBO)​

542,820 passengers (5,299,087 year-to-date)
Total percent growth (Terminal and FBO)​

66.4% (119.9% year-to-date)

Proposed US-based carrier that wants unused YTZ slots (PD's nowhere near their formerly full portfolio) to fly DH4s to places like PHL. Good luck with that with no connecting traffic.

My uneducated opinion is that PHL could be a good market for PD

If PD could get a codeshare with AA going then definitely.

Sounds like this is the plan of this new startup

From their website:

"We will begin US-Canada transborder service in 2022 connecting travelers with three daily flights from Toronto - Canada’s largest city and economic engine - to Philadelphia International and Chicago O'Hare. Flying to and from Toronto’s spectacular downtown waterfront and award-winning Billy Bishop Airport, Connect is getting ready to bring the world to Toronto and connect Toronto to the world.

Our smarter growth plan is to expand service to and from more convenient airports to major business and connecting markets partnering with world leading airlines and frequent flyer programs."

So 2022 should look like this for the top 5 airports.

YYZ were at 25.7 million passengers for the first 9 months, so maybe around 35-36 million for the year....
YVR ~19 million (with the meltdown in late december, probably under 19 million)
YUL ~16 million
YYC ~14.5 million
YEG Just under 6 million

Great!

Yep Toronto YYZ, Vancouver YVR, Montreal YUL & Calgary YYC airports in Canada will likely continue to keep doing well after the pandemic with growing its flight frequencies to Domestic/ US/International destinations & along with passengers & cargo✅!!

Other airports in Canada won’t catch these 4 anytime soon at all✅!

JETBLUE NS23 NETWORK ADDITIONS

JetBlue Airways on Thursday (12JAN23) opened reservation on various new routes for Northern summer 2023 season, majority announced back in December 2022. Planned operation as follows.

Boston – Vancouver 15JUN23 – 05SEP23 1 daily A320 (Previously scheduled from June 2022)
B6049 BOS1740 – 2107YVR 320 D
B6050 YVR2210 – 0627+1BOS 320 D

https://www.aeroroutes.com/eng/230113-b6ns23

Glad to see JetBlue starting the YVR-BOS route (or at least planning to, who knows between now and then). AC is operating the route 6x weekly (not Saturdays weirdly enough... That is a big cruise ship day for departures, surprised of all days not to operate, they chose Saturday. Monday would make more sense).

For YVR, the goal is now to get ATL and IAD back. Both Delta and UA are serial schedule changers, so it's possible they will still get added. But AC might surprise us and operate IAD. Don't think they will try ATL though, we'd only get that from Delta. Delta also used to operate DTW once weekly (basically a cruise shuttle), would be nice to see that back but not holding my breath. ATL really should be back. But the DL game has changed at YVR from 5-10 years ago. The main thing is them making SEA a hub. Prior to that, DL funnelled more thru SLC and MSP, and we would get ATL as well. But since SEA is so close, once they opened the hub there we started getting 7x daily or more from Delta. That's a big capacity increase for them, so it's understandable the other niche routes got cut. They want YVR pax to connect in SEA now, since they have a healthy domestic network there.

People coming in from the other coast for a cruise aren't generally flying in the day of, and cruise passengers likely aren't a large chunk of the passengers on the flight on a given day anyway.

Arrival time for BOS flight is 9pm, too late for the cruise.

Plus, when you pay more than $1000 for the cruise, probably better to pad a few extra days in case of flight delay or cancellation. After all, Vancouver itself is a destination that worth spend a couple of days on.

Most ships come in to port in the early morning and start disembarkation procedures at the start of the day with the goal of having everyone off the ship before noon. The ship will want to be away from the pier before the end of the workday to avoid overtime charges. It is going to cast off by 4 pm ideally.

For a flight coming at 9pm is perfect for a cruise. Your arriving the night before, overnight in a hotel and then the next day you head to the ship.

If you have the vacation time and want to add extra days that also works. Nothing better than arriving in a new time zone and being able to go directly to bed and be ready to go the next morning.

A late night departure out of Vancouver is also good for cruise traffic. No need for an extra night in a hotel. Lots of time to make the connection to the airport. Those late evening departure are going out after US pre-clearance closes so the passengers will have to clear US customs in Boston the following morning.

Well, maybe AC not solely targeting cruise traffic. The arrival and departure time at YVR would connect well with the Australia/NZ flights. That seems to be the timing for a lot of the new AC transborder flights such as AUS, IAH, and MIA.

But then, there must be a reason they remove the Saturday flight instead of anything else. Maybe it actually had the weakest forward booking? Or AC want to move it to somewhere (such as YOW) that's more profitable?