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NYguy Jan 24, 2013 2:31 PM

BOSTON | Four Seasons Hotel and Residences | 755 & 306 FT | 61 & 26 FLOORS
 
http://www.boston.com/businessupdate...o6K/story.html

Carpenter & Co. will build tower at Christian Science Plaza


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By Casey Ross, Globe Staff
1/23/2013

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A prominent local developer will build two towers next to Boston’s Christian Science Plaza, shaking up a signature open space with what will be one of the tallest buildings to hit the city skyline in years.

One tower will rise up to 50 stories, containing a hotel, condominiums, stores, and restaurants. The other will be about 20 stories and include apartments and additional retail space. The city has already approved the broad outlines of the project, and construction could begin by the end of this year.

Developer Carpenter & Co. of Cambridge was selected to develop the property, at Belvidere and Dalton streets, by the First Church of Christ, Scientist, which has been working to bring new buildings to its sprawling Back Bay campus for several years. Although the project will fill in open space used by the public and a parking lot, the triangular plot is separated from the main plaza and is something of a dead zone between a church-owned office building and the Prudential Center complex. So far, little opposition to the proposal has emerged.

“Our goal is to create some very significant architecture that will frame the plaza, which is one of Boston’s most precious resources,” said Richard L. Friedman, president of Carpenter & Co. “This project will enliven the area, and I think the plaza will benefit from having a tall building between it and the Prudential.”

The new buildings are part of a broader plan approved by Boston regulators in 2011 to redesign the 14.8-acre plaza, including its iconic reflecting pool. It allows for three towers containing more than 950,000 square feet of space, as well as public lawns and stores.


Final plans for the reflecting pool are still being devised and will need approval from the Boston Landmarks Commission, which has granted protected status to the pool and plaza. Additional public meetings will also be held on the design of the new towers.

Carpenter & Co. has won the right to build two of the three buildings around the plaza; the church has not yet selected the developer of the third building, along Huntington Avenue. Carpenter has hired New York-based Pei Cobb Freed & Partners and Cambridge Seven Associates as architects.

The new towers will extend the commercial spine of the Back Bay, which drops off precipitously as it approaches the church’s property. The cochair of a city panel that reviewed the project, George Thrush, said the new buildings will bring more activity to the area without fundamentally altering the character of the plaza.

“It’s hard to imagine another spot where you could have fairly large-scale development with so few negative impacts,” said Thrush, who is also director of Northeastern University’s School of Architecture. “This is a rare case where more development is clearly in the public interest.”

“This kind of project has been very successful in other cities,” said Friedman, who is still trying to get funding for the buildings next to the Christian Science Plaza.


Downburst Jan 24, 2013 7:50 PM

These have been planned for a while, but it's good to see this progressing.

The taller tower is tentatively planned at 512' and the shorter at 251', and would probably be better known as "Christian Science Center Redevelopment" or the like, so it'd be great if a mod could add to or change the title.

Sources:
http://cache.boston.com/bonzai-fba/G...996_9029-1.jpg

http://www.boston.com/business/artic..._science_site/

NYguy Jan 24, 2013 8:56 PM

I'm guessing the 291 ft building would be the third tower.

Downburst Jan 24, 2013 9:20 PM

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Originally Posted by NYguy (Post 5986433)
I'm guessing the 291 ft building would be the third tower.

Yes. That building will adjoin the Sunday School and be more "front and center" on the Church's campus than the other two. Hopefully they can get a developer for that one soon.

Thanks for the title change!

NYguy Jan 25, 2013 12:22 AM

More links on planning and development...
http://www.bostonredevelopmentauthor...nit&InitID=143

http://www.bostonredevelopmentauthor...ber%202010.pdf


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scalziand Jun 15, 2013 2:17 AM

New height is about 691ft. (Architectural features might bring it higher)
The height increase came from scrapping the 291ft tower.

http://www.bostonredevelopmentauthor...roject_LOI.pdf

http://img196.imageshack.us/img196/17/1x3e.jpg

scalziand Jun 21, 2013 7:51 PM

New render
 
http://imageshack.us/a/img6/8097/xd8o.jpg
http://www.bostonredevelopmentauthor...n%206.5.13.pdf

Zapatan Jun 22, 2013 12:41 AM

I like the triangular shape, nice location too

BostonBuild Sep 13, 2013 4:25 PM

Approved at 691 feet. Will be Boston's tallest residential tower, and tallest to go up since the Hancock Tower. :tup:

http://boston.curbed.com/archives/20...tial-tower.php

ltsmotorsport Sep 14, 2013 3:13 AM

Great to hear. So are all the details no together in able to start excavation?

DZH22 Sep 14, 2013 3:38 AM

Supposedly this is set to start construction around the Spring. Lots more in the Boston pipeline though. Millennium Tower at 625' is resuming, and "groundbreaking" is next week! (the hole is already dug) If the Copley Place Tower finally gets going too (also 625'), Boston could be looking at its 3 tallest towers in the last 40 years all U/C at the same time!!!

Could a mod please change the height in the title to 691'?

sterlippo1 Sep 14, 2013 4:39 PM

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Originally Posted by DZH22 (Post 6266970)
Supposedly this is set to start construction around the Spring. Lots more in the Boston pipeline though. Millennium Tower at 625' is resuming, and "groundbreaking" is next week! (the hole is already dug) If the Copley Place Tower finally gets going too (also 625'), Boston could be looking at its 3 tallest towers in the last 40 years all U/C at the same time!!!

Could a mod please change the height in the title to 691'?

it was all over the news yesterday, radio and TV. Let's hope these all happen. Maybe at some point the Back Bay will get the 1000 footer Menino wanted for Post Office Sq

DZH22 Sep 15, 2013 3:43 AM

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Originally Posted by sterlippo1 (Post 6267304)
it was all over the news yesterday, radio and TV. Let's hope these all happen. Maybe at some point the Back Bay will get the 1000 footer Menino wanted for Post Office Sq

A tall tower is still expected for that site in the not too distant future. It will probably be more in the 700-800' range.

I'm of the mind that a new tallest would have to be absolutely perfect, since our current one basically is. I also wouldn't want anything too close to the Hancock to overshadow it. It should always be the tallest building for at least a 2-3 blocks radius surrounding it. I really don't think we will ever see a supertall tower built in Boston, and I'm OK with that. A lot of positive changes could affect our skyline without needing to be over 1000'. (American supertall, none of this 300m business for us)

fflint Sep 15, 2013 3:54 AM

Love the triangular shape and the sheer height of it.

Mike/617 Sep 15, 2013 9:34 PM

http://imageshack.us/a/img545/5950/o5cq.jpg

KevinFromTexas Sep 15, 2013 11:23 PM

This says 691' plus mechanical penthouse. So it could be another 5 to 10 feet taller. It could very well be close to or slightly taller than 700 feet. In fact, all of those heights are not counting the mechanical penthouses. So each of those buildings could be 5 to 10 feet taller with their mechanical penthouses.

sterlippo1 Sep 28, 2013 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by DZH22 (Post 6267812)
A tall tower is still expected for that site in the not too distant future. It will probably be more in the 700-800' range.

I'm of the mind that a new tallest would have to be absolutely perfect, since our current one basically is. I also wouldn't want anything too close to the Hancock to overshadow it. It should always be the tallest building for at least a 2-3 blocks radius surrounding it. I really don't think we will ever see a supertall tower built in Boston, and I'm OK with that. A lot of positive changes could affect our skyline without needing to be over 1000'. (American supertall, none of this 300m business for us)

yeah, because of Logan there's not going to be a 1000 footer in POS but 700-800 would be nice. Agree about Hancock, it's a beautiful building but i'd sacrifice it's dominance in BB with a supertall :D but I also agree that our chances of a 1000 footer are next to nil:(

chris08876 Apr 30, 2014 3:48 AM

Christian Science Plaza: the Waiting Is the Hardest Part

http://boston.curbed.com/uploads/130...imagelarge.png

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With so much understandable hullabaloo about Millennium Tower not only getting under way but starting pre-sales as well, it's easy to forget a fellow Boston spire that's supposed to make the 625-foot Millennium look like your little cousin who used to tag along to everything: the a 691-foot, 58-story tower at the Christian Science Plaza.

The tower is slated to have 255 apartments, 170 condos and about 250 hotel rooms. It's part of a 950,000-square-foot redevelopment scheme at the plaza that also includes another tower, this one a mere 25 stories. The Boston Redevelopment Authority O.K.'d the whole shebang on Sept. 12, 2013, and there had been talk throughout last year that construction could start before Jan. 1.
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April 28, 2014
http://boston.curbed.com/archives/20...rstandable.php

Zapatan Apr 30, 2014 6:26 PM

This building is gorgeous!

Build it!

DZH22 Jun 11, 2014 10:22 AM

Bump....


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