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Michael12374 May 18, 2014 3:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Zapatan (Post 6582503)
It won't be the highest roof in the US, just in NYC. Sears in Chicago is 1451' to the rooftop.

But still still great nonetheless.

My bad, Meant to say tallest residential in the US. I REALLY want something this big in New York, I just want it to stand out (in a good way)

NYguy May 22, 2014 10:56 PM

http://www.capitalnewyork.com/articl...t-improvements

Community board asks Extell for transit improvements


By Dana Rubinstein
May. 19, 2014


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Community Board 5 has another bone to pick with Extell.

The midtown Manhattan board, which famously took the One57 developer to task for the shadows its skyscraper is casting over Central Park, is demanding the developer contribute more money to mass transit, now that it's building an even taller tower down the block.

On Friday, the community board's chair, Vikki Barbero, and its land use chair, Raju Mann, sent a letter to Extell Development president Gary Barnett, New York City Transit president Carmen Bianco and City Planning Commission chair Carl Weisbrod asking the city and the M.T.A. to require the developer fund a project to make the nearby Q train station at 57th Street and 7th Avenue fully wheelchair-accessible by building an elevator shaft all the way down to the subway platform.


The community board's argument goes something like this.

In addition to yet more luxury condos, Extell's just-underway 217 West 57th Street tower will house the city's first Nordstrom department store and is poised to flood the nearby subway station with a lot more traffic.

In 2007, when the nearby One57 was just getting underway, Extell agreed to build an elevator to the subway, but only one that carried straphangers from the street to the mezzanine, not all the way down to the subway platform.

"[S]o (if the elevator is working) a person in a wheelchair takes it down to the mezzanine/fare control level and then realizes s/he can’t get down to the platform and therefore has to take the elevator back up to the sidewalk," reads the letter.

"Isn’t it silly?" said Jim Weisman, general counsel for the United Spinal Association and an advocate for the disabled. "If you do it, do it. Make it a usable station."

Now, Extell is requesting a waiver from a zoning requirement that it incorporate a new subway station entrance into its 217 West 57th Street development, a skyscraper that when it's complete will be the tallest residential tower in the country.

"We believe this application represents exactly the right opportunity to finish the job," wrote Barbero and Mann.

Instead, Extell is offering to widen and relocate a staircase.

And the M.T.A. is moving ahead with a contract to build two mezzanine-to-platform elevators on its own, without Extell funding.

"We’re not even saying that Extell should bear the entire cost of the project, though that would be nice," said Wally Rubin, the board's district manager, in an email. "But we do believe that with the added traffic that will result from Extell’s supertower, and especially the department store that will be at the base (think Macy’s at 57th Street), and with a billion dollar budget for the building of this megatower, and a $35 million tax break for One 57, tax payers should not have to bear the full freight of this ADA project alone and Extell should be expected to contribute to the project’s completion, from which its tenants will benefit."

In a statement, Extell spokesman George Artz said its "relocated and expanded subway stair" and a wider sidewalk "will accommodate subway riders and pedestrians now and in the future."

Perklol May 23, 2014 1:46 AM

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ILNY May 27, 2014 4:50 AM

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NYguy May 27, 2014 5:36 PM

Getting down there...

nyc15 Jun 1, 2014 12:50 PM

can us see a 1550 ft roof tower??

Zapatan Jun 3, 2014 1:57 AM

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Originally Posted by nyc15 (Post 6600858)
can us see a 1550 ft roof tower??

I would expect low 1400's and be pleasantly surprised if it ends up in the high 1400's quite honestly, so no, (probably) not with this building.

RobEss Jun 11, 2014 6:45 PM

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gramsjdg Jun 11, 2014 7:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Zapatan (Post 6602678)
I would expect low 1400's and be pleasantly surprised if it ends up in the high 1400's quite honestly, so no, (probably) not with this building.



Actually, with 111 w 57th now confirmed at just under 1400 ft, and a 950 ft tower blocking a good chunk of the Central Park view, I would say the pressure is on for Barnett to use the full 1550 ft. Add to that the fact that the current massing model is completely outclassed architecturally by both aforementioned towers, and this is no longer about bragging rights but about how to deal with some very real and very serious competition. I simply don't think Barnett has much of a choice to use anything other than the full height if he wants to be competitive.

LouColu Jun 11, 2014 8:39 PM

I was wondering too, does the depth of the foundation give any indication to how high the building will be?

TechTalkGuy Jun 11, 2014 9:43 PM

Does anyone know when we can expect actual construction to begin?

JayPro Jun 12, 2014 12:29 AM

When that date is announced, I'd really like to see some brand spanking new renders.............::ahem:: :whip:

scalziand Jun 12, 2014 4:35 AM

Fascinating that the Future Nordstrom is already being used as a selling point for neighboring properties.

WonderlandPark Jun 12, 2014 4:36 AM

Why is the thread title still DEMO? I've been waiting for the obvious PREP to pop up in the thread title for a while now, so I am speaking up.

NYguy Jun 12, 2014 1:06 PM

^ It's a mix of both actually.


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Originally Posted by scalziand (Post 6614769)
Fascinating that the Future Nordstrom is already being used as a selling point for neighboring properties.

Oh yeah. Thor just bought the building across the street. The players are homing in...

http://therealdeal.com/blog/2014/06/...ure-nordstrom/

Thor to buy 57th Street retail across from future Nordstrom

http://s13.therealdeal.com/trd/up/20...t-220-W-57.jpg

TechTalkGuy Jun 15, 2014 5:51 PM

:previous: Looks promising! :tup:
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“With a series of luxury condos and hotels joining an already robust commercial market and landmarks like Carnegie Hall, West 57th is primed to become one of the hottest streets on the entire island of Manhattan,” Sitt said in a statement to TRD.

Zapatan Jun 25, 2014 11:58 PM

The DOB still lists the building as 1550'... guess whoevers job it is to update that has been really lazy.

NYguy Jun 26, 2014 12:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Zapatan (Post 6632228)
The DOB still lists the building as 1550'... guess whoevers job it is to update that has been really lazy.

NO, they just haven't filed any new plans, which may not be complete. The building isn't even in ground yet, there will be years of new filings.

Maybe Barnett just wants to surprise you with 150 floors of Nordstrom shopping.

TechTalkGuy Jun 26, 2014 1:35 AM

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Originally Posted by NYguy (Post 6632285)
Maybe Barnett just wants to surprise you with 150 floors of Nordstrom shopping.

Then it would be bigger than Macy's Herald Square! :haha:

But I highly doubt that we would have public access to THAT luxury!

We are lucky to get some nice views of Central Park from the nearby Bergdorf Goodman on 5th Ave. ;)

Onn Jun 26, 2014 1:56 AM

I have to say, although this tower is going to be grand, I'm kind of excited for the new Nordstorm department store too. It's going to be a site to behold (and hopefully 150 stories tall ;)). Hopefully it will help reinvigorate the high-end retail department stores in New York City. The slide of the department store is a disaster for cities everywhere and clothing in general. I know online shopping has grabbed an increasingly larger share of the market. But simply put, there are many clothes I would never even consider buying if I hadn't seen them in the stores. I think the loss of physical examination of clothing and fitting rooms is way understated.


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