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Good points...but is that really the fan base changing? The people who go to games may skew more wealthy due to rising ticket prices, but most fans who can't afford to go to the games anymore will still watch them on TV or go to a smaller number of games when they can afford it. I doubt your average warriors fan in Oakland or San Leandro will stop rooting for them just because they move back to SF, just like your average fan back when they were in SF didn't stop rooting for them when they moved to Oakland.
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NIMBYs are trying to kill the arena again: http://www.socketsite.com/archives/2...rena-plan.html |
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I mean, it's a stadium/arena in SF. No matter where you put it, it's gonna be next to something. 50,000 seat Kezar Stadium sat right next to St. Mary's hospital and nobody seemed to have a problem with that.
If UCSF wanted to expand to that plot of land in the future, then they should have bought that land. It belonged to Salesforce before the Warriors bought it. But let's actually analyze the argument that's being brought against the project. "There will be too much traffic because there is not enough parking at the arena (950 spaces for 18,500 people)." So they want more parking so that more people will drive there? It's bass-ackwards thinking. |
UCSF is publicly distancing themselves from this group and saying they are pleased with negotiations with the Warriors and the city about ensuring emergency vehicle access. They're likely downplaying any more overt internal opposition, but seems completely reasonable they want to ensure access to the hospital during high traffic events. They'd be neglectful if they didn't make sure there were plans and infrastructure in place to handle it.
The group of donors wants that land available for UCSF, but UCSF hasn't expressed interest in or a need for it. |
Something tells me that a lot of people will take the central subway to the game once that line is finished. and considering the arena wouldn't open for another couple years at the earliest, they should coincide nicely.
For those that are curious, here is the Warrior's plan to mitigate gameday/event traffic: http://www.socketsite.com/archives/2...ssion-bay.html |
Benioff and Conway, who between them have given UCSF $240 million for its hospitals, are blasting the arena foes.
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This will hopefully blow over since the City, Benioff, and Conway are all pushing back hard. Plus, can you imagine a hospital more difficult to get to than the new CPMC Medical Center being built? Van Ness, Franklin, and Geary are usually busy, and Post will become that way.
One thing though, I wouldn't compare St. Mary's Hospital to UCSF Mission Bay. It isn't just the hospitals (which eventually will double in size when the next phase is built); it's also the campus research and other facilities. I can well see that some people would want to keep land available for expansion, but as WildCowboy and thedudley pointed out, the university itself hasn't expressed interest in it, nor did they buy it. |
You guys can come use our new arena in downtown Sacramento.
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man, i can only imagine the angry phone calls marc benioff is making this week at the very highest levels.
the tinfoil theory that explains why it's coming out of nowhere: coliseum city developers and people near the mayor of oakland are behind this. |
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Some big news coming out tonight. UCSF will now endorse the Warriors new arena, taking some of the wind out of the sails of the opposition. From the SF Business Times:
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And yet, the opposition is just going to "fight harder" for someone who doesn't want their protection.
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This will at least take away one of their fake altruistic arguments.
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I didn't realize this wasn't previously official. I guess the Warriors were waiting to make sure this didn't get killed like the last proposal:
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The Warriors also announced that financing and a general contractor are in place. From the SF Business Times:
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Mission Bay Alliance of course isn't happy and will appeal, but everyone else involved seems to be. SFMTA says they have gotten more than they need to handle the added capacity demands. anyway, the vote to certify the EIR is Election Day, Nov 3. *this would mean moving a platform away from right in front of the new Uber headquarters. so, how on earth are the Uber employees supposed to get to work now? I mean, if you make public transit less convenient for them, what other possible option is left to Uber people for their transportation needs? we don't want to be filling up nearby parking garages... I just don't know what the solution here is. someone needs to come up with a transport idea for people in situations such as these poor Uber folks. |
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The Planning Commission unanimously approved the project today, apparently the last major approval needed (now come the appeals and lawsuits):
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The Board of Supervisors rejected the EIR appeal and approved the transportation fund:
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UCSF has/had a view easement that extends along the line of Campus Way (the road between Third and Fourth that passes among UCSF parking lots, the Third Street Garage, and Mission Hall) across Third Street for 100 feet into the heart of the Warriors project site. That's apparently what Hawgood gave away. |
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not too surprisingly, at least one-year delay
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A new website has been launched: www.chasecenter.com
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first building permit! and mostly meaningless for the moment!
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The construction team set up a website. No groundbreaking yet, but it seems like they're one step closer to getting started.
http://www.gswconstruction.com/ |
The story's behind a paywall, but SFBT reports that work is set to begin in January:
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A webcam has been setup for the Chase Center Construction site. Nothing to see yet but should provide a nice view of the construction. http://www.gswconstruction.com/webcam/ |
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but apparently the Future is Here...
https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/638/32...a5a9223c_b.jpg walking toward the site from the SE this afternoon I noticed profiles of drilling equipment, and overturned earth... https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/362/31...35b3f643_b.jpg https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/742/31...0e91b085_b.jpg and a tent and stage being set up for some sort of event with blue and yellow lights, hmmm https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/591/31...16d453c0_b.jpg looking south from the roof of the South St garage: https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/281/31...49705770_b.jpg https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/646/31...0964863a_b.jpg https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/472/32...4d7c7f62_b.jpg WildCowboy will be happy to see that the vexing parking lot is still there for the moment https://c1.staticflickr.com/6/5592/3...a26be89e_b.jpg the northbound Muni stop that I think is to be lengthened to increase capacity for trains serving the arena https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/408/32...b89f1c46_b.jpg |
Thanks, timbad....that parking lot isn't long for this world!
The event they're setting up for would be the groundbreaking ceremony scheduled for tomorrow. Or maybe a blue and yellow themed Cirque du Soleil show? :) |
I hope the ceremony will be open to the public. Anyone else planning on going?
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I can't imagine it would be open to the public...there's just a small stage for the speeches and ceremony and a few tents set up for the reception. No way it could handle a crush of thousands of people.
They're streaming it live on the Chase Center website though. |
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