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NYC4Life Oct 19, 2012 2:25 AM


Kingsbridge Armory debate heats up


(10/17/12) THE BRONX - The topic of what will inhabit the Kingsbridge Armory was front and center for Bronx residents tonight at Saint Nicholas of Tolentine.

Developers Youngwoo and Associates explained their vision for the armory as a mixed-use facility with local vendors, sports fields, large community spaces and a movie theater. The northwest Bronx group led the meeting and wrote their mission statements on a board which included points about living wage jobs and a new high school, among others.

The meeting was not attended by the Kingsbridge National Ice Center developers, who want to turn the armory into a state-of-the-art hockey facility.

(©) News12 Interactive, Inc. 2012

NYC4Life Oct 28, 2012 6:28 PM


Islanders renew interest in BX ice arena


(10/26/12) THE BRONX - Excitement over the New York Islanders' move to Brooklyn has renewed interest in an ice rink in The Bronx.

Borough President Ruben Diaz Jr. is getting behind a proposal to bring an ice arena to the Kingsbridge Armory. If passed, nine rinks and a 5,000-seat arena would be created at the empty armory.

Diaz says a rink would bring living-wage jobs to the area, give inner-city kids a chance to play hockey and ice skate, and even give the Islanders a place to practice.

The future of the Kingsbridge Armory has been a hotly debated topic. Another option on the table is a sports and media complex, which developers say would be a bigger draw to tourists.

The city's Economic Development Corporation is expected to choose a proposal by the end of the year.

(©) News12 Interactive, Inc. 2012

NYguy Nov 30, 2012 2:32 PM

Differing Visions for Armory

November 29, 2012


Residents and elected officials in the Kingsbridge section of the Bronx have spent nearly two decades trying to redevelop the neighborhood's imposing armory on West 195th Street, but various plans for reusing the long-vacant structure have failed to come to fruition. The landmark armory, which was built in the 1910s and occupies nearly a full city block at the southern tip of the neighborhood, is seen as having the potential to provide a significant economic boost to the area. But the most recent plan for its redevelopment—a shopping mall backed by Mayor Michael Bloomberg—was voted down by the City Council in 2010. The city's Economic Development Corp. now is weighing new proposals. A spokesman for the corporation said it hopes to pick a winning plan by the end of the year.

The two most prominent plans have sparked differences between local politicians and an influential community group, setting the stage for another battle over the property after a proposal is chosen. One proposal for the armory calls for creating the Kingsbridge National Ice Center, billed as the biggest facility for ice sports in the world. It has received endorsements from local politicians that include Bronx Borough President Ruben Diaz Jr. But one influential community group says the developers behind a competing plan called Mercado Mirabo, a multiuse facility in the vein of Chelsea Market, have been more receptive to neighborhood concerns.

mrnyc Dec 2, 2012 7:18 PM


NYC4Life Apr 23, 2013 5:57 PM

It's Official!

New York City announces Kingsbridge Armory plan
Updated at 09:56 AM today


NEW YORK (WABC) -- New York City has finally come up with a plan for the long-closed Kingsbridge Armory in the Bronx.

On Tuesday, Mayor Michael Bloomberg announced a deal to turn it into one of the country's largest ice skating rinks.

Eyewitness News first told you about the proposal last summer.

The company that designed Madison Square Garden will be the architect for the $250 million project.

The New York Islanders will reportedly use the armory for practices when the team moves from Long Island to the Barclays Center in 2015.

Military use of the Bronx Kingsbridge Armory ended in 1996, and since then, it has sat vacant.

The armory was built in 1910 with an interior so large, you could fire a cannon at one end and not hit the other end. It covers five acres, making it possibly the largest in the world. It is nine stories tall, with stellar brick work, and the inside has a 10,000-square foot drill hall and an 800-seat auditorium, just waiting for new life.

The landmark armory, which occupies a full city block at 29 West Kingsbridge Road, will be redeveloped into a 750,000-square-foot ice sports facility to be known as Kingsbridge National Ice Center.

KNIC will feature nine year-round indoor regulation size ice rinks, including a feature rink that can seat approximately 5,000 people and be used to host national and international ice hockey tournaments, figure and speed skating competitions and ice shows. The project will also include 50,000 square feet of space designated for community uses. The facility will feature nine ice rinks, five on the main floor and four on two platforms elevated approximately 40 feet above the main floor.

In addition to the ice rinks, the facility will have a wellness center, with off-ice training fitness, rehabilitation and sports therapy programs; dressing rooms and lockers with storage for individual hockey equipment; concession space; retail space for ice sport goods; and parking for approximately 480 cars.

(Copyright ©2013 WABC-TV/DT. All Rights Reserved.)

NYC4Life Apr 23, 2013 6:09 PM

Additional info from the Mayor's press release:


The project will now begin a comprehensive public and environmental review with an anticipated groundbreaking in late 2014. The entire project will be built in two phases, with the first phase, consisting of five ice rinks, 50,000 square feet community space, concessions and parking, expected to be complete by September 2018. The remainder of the project will be built in the second phase which is expected to open by September 2019.

From today's announcement:

NYC Mayor's Office

NYguy Apr 23, 2013 8:16 PM

No surprise really. This is great for the Bronx...:tup:

mrnyc Apr 23, 2013 10:27 PM

another take on this very good news today!

Could it be? After years of thwarted plans, there's a deal in place for the beautiful Kingsbridge Armory in the Bronx. Mayor Bloomberg's office added this to his schedule today: "9:00 AM Announces Plans to Transform Kingsbridge Armory in the Bronx Into World’s Largest Indoor Ice Facility."

The Daily News had reported yesterday, "several Bronx groups have signed a community benefits agreement with Kingsbridge National Ice Center (KNIC) partners." Further, "KNIC has agreed to wall-to-wall living wage jobs for local workers; over 50,000 square feet of community space; guarantee that 51% of jobs would go to Bronx residents; provide opportunities for minority- and women-owned businesses; and grant priority ice time for borough schools, among other provisions."

Concerns over living wage are what doomed a 2009 plan that would have transformed the armory into a shopping mall. (Yes, Bloomberg opposed the living wage.) There have been other attempts (including one with a velodrome) to get a plan attractive to all parties.

The NYC Economic Development Corporation has listed the armory on its list of film and event spaces, noting, "Total Available Space: ~ 285,000 sf; Status: Vacant
Main Drill Floor 180,000 sf; Subbasement 105,000 sf" and:
The Kingsbridge Armory (the “Armory”) is located at 29 West Kingsbridge Road in the Bronx. Reputedly the largest armory in the world, Kingsbridge Armory consists of a 180,000-square-foot drill floor spanned freely by pairs of vaulted steel trusses that rise 110 feet above the drill hall floor. The subbasement below stretches 105,000 square feet. The combined square footages and easy accessibility (parking, vehicle, and pedestrian entrances) provide extraordinary filming and event space in New York City.
Kingsbridge Amory has power and water but no heat or air conditioning. Bathrooms are available.

The News reported, "The proposed ice sports center would include nine hockey rinks, a 5,000-seat arena and a 50,000-square-foot community space that would be open to area groups and an education program for local youth."

patm Apr 23, 2013 10:46 PM

As a Canadian I just came to say how jealous I am of this. Awesome rink complex!

How is the demand for Ice Time in that area anyway? Will this get a lot of use?

Crawford Apr 24, 2013 12:30 AM


Originally Posted by patm (Post 6102441)
How is the demand for Ice Time in that area anyway? Will this get a lot of use?

It's right next to a subway hub and there are very few indoor rinks in NYC, so it should get lots of use.

The shortage is so bad that there are amateur leagues in Manhattan that have 1 AM weekday game times in existing facilities.

And the NY Islanders are using this as their new practice facility, so you have a solid anchor tenant.

Busy Bee Apr 24, 2013 3:20 PM

This will give new meaning to chillin out at the Armory.

NYguy Apr 25, 2013 12:00 AM



mrnyc Apr 25, 2013 2:50 AM

the raised ice rinks are pretty trippy. way to make the best use of space ha!

NYC4Life Apr 26, 2013 3:39 AM

Photo by me from tuesday:

Pretext Jun 12, 2013 6:23 PM


Originally Posted by jd3189 (Post 5795003)
If NYC ever wins a bid for the Olympics, this could be one of the venues. In fact, there's a lot of areas already built that can be used as venues.

Ice skating is a winter olympic sport, and I can't realistically see NYC winning the winter olympics.

I suppose it could be used as some other kind of arena in a summer olympics, but with 5,000 seats it's not vast and there are plenty of other bigger Arenas already in NYC. :)

easy as pie Jun 12, 2013 6:54 PM

amazing and great, fantastic news. like not just for hockey but for all ice sports, free skates, birthday parties on ice, regional/national ice sport tournament and competition hosting, etc.

JACKinBeantown Jun 12, 2013 7:35 PM

New York is so cool.

sbarn Jun 12, 2013 10:10 PM

I wish they had moved the Rangers or Islanders here. This would have instantly become one of the coolest NHL arenas around...

Duck From NY Jun 13, 2013 2:54 AM

Looking at that map it seems that this piece of land is in a very important location in the Bronx.

WestSideGuy Jun 13, 2013 3:40 PM


Originally Posted by sbarn (Post 6162383)
I wish they had moved the Rangers or Islanders here. This would have instantly become one of the coolest NHL arenas around...

Move the Rangers out of The Garden??? To the Bronx??? That idea makes totally no sense. The Islanders as well, it is difficult enough they are moving to Barclays and now the Long Island, car driving fan base will have to take the LIRR to the games, now you want to suggest moving them to the Bronx? Another bad idea!

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