Went back to this.

One Vanderbilt, at this point, will be another clone of the Empire State, heightwise. Remove the spire, and it's slightly shorter than 30 Hudson. It will certainly be shorter than 111 W. 57th Street (which will have it's own lighting). It will be a prominent addition to the skyline no doubt, but it won't be the defining tower, particularly when there are so many of equal or greater height joining the show.



Hoping they get back to that spire.

I agree. My favorite tower going up in the city atm.

Here's a bigger version from the Extell's website. I think it looks just fine without the spire. It's going to be an impressive tower when done.

http://i1287.photobucket.com/albums/...u.jpg~original
http://extell.com/portfolio/central-park-tower

I hope we get the spire, but in any case this tower won't dominate Midtown for very long anyways. There are too many development sites in play, especially near Central Park, Hudson Yards and Grand Central.

I don't doubt that, at the very least, we get one or two comparable/taller towers along Billionaires Row in the next few years (could be the Durst site, the Park Lane site, the Vornado site the Extell/Calvary Baptist site or the Solow site).

So its definitive then that 1 Vandy is getting a roof height cut to 1301'? That sucks. :(

Crazy as it seems, after all the height changes and spire changes, we are basically going to end up getting exactly what Barnett originally proposed for this tower, 1550' to the roof and no "gimmicky" spire (to quote Barnett).

Although I still hope it ends up being 1569' to the roof.

I believe it's actually 1,288' last I heard. Still a nice building/height though.

Still dominant considering the spire will bring it up to the ESB pinnacle (kind of).

Shame extell didn't appease us here and add into that rendering the rest of whats rising (Steinway, Verre, vandy). They pretend those don't exist, to sell units!

:superwhip

Although One57 buyers must be irked knowing that Steinway and CPT will be superior to anything One57 offers. Time to sell those units and invest in CPT and Steinway. I could kinda envision One57, which is owned by Extell, seeing units sold and investing in CPT, which is also by Extell. Unfortunately, printed monopoly money doesn't work for me.

it will dominate the skyline if we add spire and it will make the height of the cpt close 1800 ft

so 1569ft , you mean to the parapet

Yep.

I believe top occupied floor is 1450 ft. Actual roof I think is right around 1500 ft.

Basically.



They usually never do (especially when the others are competition). We'll get one eventually.

This tower will be higher than any building or spire in New York, except the Freedom Tower's spire, which is all the way Downtown.
It is the tower that will dominate all others. There will be other tall towers for sure, especially if 666 Fifth gets built. But this will be the tower, until something taller gets built.

The skyscraper gods are not pleased with this offering. Perhaps the spire would appease them, but Barnett is being a hard ass. Here's another look at that model.


http://m6.i.pbase.com/o10/06/102706/...0504231902.png

If that's the Bloomberg Building to the left, then to puts things into perspective, a decade or two ago, that building was one of the tallest in the part of the island. The lighted crown stood out in the night.

Seeing the CPT not just pass it in height, but overwhelmingly dominate, indicates it's status as THE Skyscraper in NY. It's even bigger in volume at the same height as Bloomberg upper floors.

WOW

And why are all of the trend-setting building being castrated of the spires? Is it the money? I mean if your spending, say, 10B to develop a site, than what an additional, say, 200M? The damn-est thing.

https://scontent.cdninstagram.com/t5...70746112_n.jpg
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The penthouse here is truly a mansion in the sky. Not sure it will break the record at 220 CPS, but I imagine this could approach $200,000,000. The entire 3rd floor is an epic event space.

I took the drawings from the DOB filing for the kitchen and cleaned them up a bit. Enjoy!

A few points:
1) This was approved in Jan 2016 so it is possible there were more changes since then.
2) Balconys line up with the latest renderings and models I've seen.
3) Anyone know why there is an elevator on the top floor near the kitchen? That can only go up, but there should only be mechanical space above. It is a private elevator so maybe there is more space above? Some more outdoor space? Very odd.
4) They refer to the top floor as the 93rd floor, but I believe it is the highest occupied floor in the building.

91:
http://i.imgur.com/8ouxrrm.png

92:
http://i.imgur.com/3ZqmW0s.png

93:
http://i.imgur.com/W39cddY.png

Seems to be moving faster now. Floor a week maybe?

And how about One57's crown lighting? What gives with that? What- the LED electrical bill is too high? Unbelievable.

My point being that they both defined the top of the skyline in that area for years now. CPT will totally changes all that.

I will check 2 nite to see if they are lite.

Btw, the rendering by jayden at night is awesome.

Cool- thanks!