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Urbannizer Sep 23, 2013 7:50 PM

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Originally Posted by mfastx (Post 6276753)
Some time ago a rendering was posted of a possible new department store on the lot. It seemed more like a renovation of the Macy's.

That was just an idea though not a concrete rendering.

Weatherguru said he saw the renderings of the 23-story office tower. That renovation plan your referring to wasn't around 20-stories tall. I guess he saw the proposed GreenStreet Hotel a few pages back and thought it was the new building for the Macy's site?

TowerSpotter Sep 23, 2013 9:17 PM

Everyone meet West Houston Master-Plan at Memorial Park. Renderings just released a couple of hours ago. By the way this was designed for Hine's.

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7368/9...6aa5819e_b.jpg

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Integrating the man-made with the natural. It’s a challenge to link the two in a way this is not disruptive to existing space and allows for growth and development. The goal should always be to design a natural extension of the environment, developing in a natural way that truly fits with the city and its surroundings.

The plan was prepared for Hines Development to provide a vision for a 14-acre site in West Houston. The site has a natural beauty, being part of the edge of Houston’s signature open space, Memorial Park. Developing links with the park is a centerpiece of the design concept, which encompasses approximately 1.8 million square feet of mixed-use development.
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http://www.hksinc.com/places/west-houston-master-plan/

weatherguru18 Sep 23, 2013 10:13 PM

Sorry, by on here I guess I meant HAIF. I KNOW I saw them on there. I will try and find time tonight to dig through the threads and find them. Either that or I've gone totally nuts. If so, I ask for forgiveness in advance, lol

weatherguru18 Sep 23, 2013 10:22 PM

I found a little bit on the Macy's site in this thread. Still looking for renderings. I know what I saw, gang. Bear with me! lol

http://www.houstonarchitecture.com/h...e-built/page-2

Believed to begin construction the end of this year or ealry next year
23-Stories, said to look like an elliptical prism
Developer: Hines
Park like area on the roof top floor
Does not take up the entire block
Retail included
December 2015 completion date

bobbyv Sep 23, 2013 10:28 PM

Houston is blowing up but can't help but to think how pedestrian unfriendly all these New developments are.

Reverberation Sep 23, 2013 10:30 PM

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Originally Posted by bobbyv (Post 6276988)
Houston is blowing up but can't help but to think how pedestrian unfriendly all these New developments are.

That's strange because I don't see that at all.

Reverberation Sep 23, 2013 10:31 PM

That site is located between Wynden and Post Oak Timber just east of S. Post Oak Ln.

Urbannizer Sep 23, 2013 11:29 PM

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Originally Posted by weatherguru18 (Post 6276964)
Sorry, by on here I guess I meant HAIF. I KNOW I saw them on there. I will try and find time tonight to dig through the threads and find them. Either that or I've gone totally nuts. If so, I ask for forgiveness in advance, lol

I dunno, I think a few others here would have saw them already if they were posted on HAIF!

DanielG425 Sep 23, 2013 11:33 PM

Oh my gosh this is awesome!

Urbannizer Sep 24, 2013 2:54 AM

New developments, info added to the project list (first post).

The Macy's site now.. courtesy of Nate99

http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g1...ps76a31399.jpg

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Urbannizer Sep 24, 2013 3:46 AM

A website was just launched for The Dome: http://thenewdomepac.com/

Full, high-res renderings:

http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3820/9...3732d2e8_b.jpg

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Urbannizer Sep 24, 2013 11:49 PM

New video of The Woodlands that includes upcoming developments for the city.

Video Link

TowerSpotter Sep 25, 2013 12:32 AM

Damn Hughes Landing looks amazing!!!

Urbannizer Sep 25, 2013 12:54 AM

Bethel Church Park in Midtown nearly complete. The church was severely damaged back in 2005, the walls were saved and used as part of the park.

c/o HoustonMidtown

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http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2889/9...c8bf969f_b.jpg

More information here: http://swamplot.com/new-fourth-ward-...ch/2012-08-23/

TowerSpotter Sep 25, 2013 12:26 PM

A great insider on the TheHaif....Swtsig said Ritz Hotel is scouting around for some land.

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Ritz is actively looking, possibly a couple others.

Urbannizer Sep 25, 2013 3:33 PM

New Renderings for the ExxonMobil Campus

http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3729/9...e17b4a2c_b.jpg

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Von Sep 25, 2013 4:03 PM

Bill Gates is buying one of Houston's most prominent hotels
 
BY RALPH BIVINS 9.25.13 | 10:01 am
CultureMap Houston


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"We look forward to Four Seasons Houston continuing as the local market leader and maintaining its unique position in the Houston community.”
http://houston.culturemap.com/news/r...paign=alert439

oscarinhouston Sep 25, 2013 10:22 PM





The complex is huge! no wonder they went outside the city, I can't think of a good place within city limits to built such a massive project.

N90 Sep 25, 2013 10:25 PM

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Originally Posted by oscarinhouston (Post 6279688)
The complex is huge! no wonder they went outside the city, I can't think of a good place within city limits to built such a massive project.

Would have been perfect in any desolate area in the eastern half of the Inner Loop. Just imagine, a quarter of Houston's inner loop would look and give off a Washington DC staggering mid-rise density appeal.

Double L Sep 25, 2013 10:39 PM

You know, there's always the option of going downtown and building up.

I'm actually really sad about the Exxon/Mobile campus but everything else going on in Houston is so big and good that it makes it better.

photoLith Sep 25, 2013 11:03 PM

Yeah the Exxon mobile campus is a big loser for downtown.

N90 Sep 25, 2013 11:11 PM

Imagine how many parking lots downtown would have lost if they built the campus in the desolate areas of Downtown, built exactly the way it was built in North Houston.

photoLith Sep 25, 2013 11:15 PM

That wouldn't be good either. That would prevent a lot of future developments and residential from happening. I just wish they would have built like an 800' tower or something downtown instead.

Urbannizer Sep 25, 2013 11:16 PM

Yeah, they should have chose to stay downtown in 800 Bell, and just build a supertall on a lot nearby.

N90 Sep 25, 2013 11:18 PM

Their campus is 3 million square feet. That would have easily have been a 1,400 foot tower/supertall in Downtown.

oscarinhouston Sep 26, 2013 1:56 AM

I think it was a good move from the company to save a few bucks on taxes. And yeah who wouldn't like a +1000ft building in Houston.

AviationGuy Sep 26, 2013 2:16 AM

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Originally Posted by N90 (Post 6279765)
Their campus is 3 million square feet. That would have easily have been a 1,400 foot tower/supertall in Downtown.

I wonder, though, if maybe the majority of the Exxon employees who will be working at the new campus will prefer living in The Woodlands or nearby. In that respect, they would be happy that the campus was built in the northern metro.

atlantaguy Sep 26, 2013 2:33 AM

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Originally Posted by AviationGuy (Post 6279928)
I wonder, though, if maybe the majority of the Exxon employees who will be working at the new campus will prefer living in The Woodlands or nearby. In that respect, they would be happy that the campus was built in the northern metro.

I was talking with a client yesterday that lives in the Woodlands, and she said the Exxon/Mobil campus in particular is causing a big rise in home values there right now.

I have to admit as a an architecture/planning fan I love the design, but am conflicted on the location. But I love the West Houston master plan at Memorial Park even more. That is absolutely gorgeous!

TowerSpotter Sep 26, 2013 3:02 AM

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Originally Posted by atlantaguy (Post 6279946)
I was talking with a client yesterday that lives in the Woodlands, and she said the Exxon/Mobil campus in particular is causing a big rise in home values there right now.

I have to admit as a an architecture/planning fan I love the design, but am conflicted on the location. But I love the West Houston master plan at Memorial Park even more. That is absolutely gorgeous!

Same conflict with the Ashby Highrise it is also causing a rise in home values.

AustinTay Sep 26, 2013 4:28 AM

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Originally Posted by TowerSpotter (Post 6279983)
Same conflict with the Ashby Highrise it is also causing a rise in home values.

There is really no correlation between the rising property values and the Ashby Highrise. It has not even broke ground. Just an observation posted on the Chronicle and nothing more.

Reverberation Sep 26, 2013 12:21 PM

Home values are rising all over the metro area. There was a ULI event a while back where the panel basically said that the supply of single family homes was 3 years behind demand. Plus since the contractors are so busy, the cost of construction for new homes is up as well. So in short, it's a seller's market for the next few years. Even places like Katy and Richmond are seeing prices increase.

TexasPlaya Sep 26, 2013 4:49 PM

I think the most surprising thing going on in Houston right now is the amount of renovations going on in DT, especially hotels. Houston is pretty underrated for tourism/business travel with all these "attractions" alongside rail and more hotel rooms DT will only expand on that.

toxteth o'grady Sep 26, 2013 7:33 PM

Well, I guess as of this morning, this project is ready for the Construction thread.

Noble Energy to break ground on phase II of new campus today

toxteth o'grady Sep 26, 2013 7:36 PM

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Originally Posted by AviationGuy (Post 6279928)
I wonder, though, if maybe the majority of the Exxon employees who will be working at the new campus will prefer living in The Woodlands or nearby. In that respect, they would be happy that the campus was built in the northern metro.

I expect there will be a few commuting in from Lake Conroe or Huntsville when it opens. The really (fool)hardy ones will probably buy ranches in Madisonville and stop off in Buc-ee's for a coffee on the way south.

toxteth o'grady Sep 26, 2013 7:41 PM

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Originally Posted by N90 (Post 6279694)
Would have been perfect in any desolate area in the eastern half of the Inner Loop. Just imagine, a quarter of Houston's inner loop would look and give off a Washington DC staggering mid-rise density appeal.

Well, what the hey - there are acres of abandoned car lots along the North Freeway near Gulf Bank/Mount Houston Road that are just begging to be redeveloped as brownfield sites. That could have been the location - although it's a good opportunity for a dense complex of apartments.:tup:

toxteth o'grady Sep 26, 2013 7:47 PM

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Originally Posted by N90 (Post 6279765)
Their campus is 3 million square feet. That would have easily have been a 1,400 foot tower/supertall in Downtown.

United Airlines would have loved that solution. Anything to keep Southwest airplanes from landing at Hobby.:notacrook:

NYC2ATX Sep 26, 2013 9:15 PM

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Originally Posted by atlantaguy (Post 6279946)
I was talking with a client yesterday that lives in the Woodlands, and she said the Exxon/Mobil campus in particular is causing a big rise in home values there right now.

I have to admit as a an architecture/planning fan I love the design, but am conflicted on the location. But I love the West Houston master plan at Memorial Park even more. That is absolutely gorgeous!

The way I see it, the choice of location could've been way worse. At least it's near the already burgeoning secondary core of the Woodlands. Burgeoning enough that the entire metro has been redesignated to include it as a principal city. I can totally see the entire Woodlands/Spring/North Freeway-Grand Parkway junction area becoming a huge subsection of the region if development is geared towards vital urban principals (something which is already occurring in some ways).

It could've been built in Conroe...or Rosenberg.

AustinTay Sep 26, 2013 9:35 PM

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Originally Posted by StatenIslander237 (Post 6280879)
The way I see it, the choice of location could've been way worse. At least it's near the already burgeoning secondary core of the Woodlands. Burgeoning enough that the entire metro has been redesignated to include it as a principal city. I can totally see the entire Woodlands/Spring/North Freeway-Grand Parkway junction area becoming a huge subsection of the region if development is geared towards vital urban principals (something which is already occurring in some ways).

It could've been built in Conroe...or Rosenberg.

Springwoods Village will help had to that whole area. I am not fan of the suburbs but it looks nice and could be vibrant.

http://imageshack.com/a/img694/5108/wv8e.jpg

Reverberation Sep 27, 2013 2:24 AM

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Originally Posted by StatenIslander237 (Post 6280879)
The way I see it, the choice of location could've been way worse. At least it's near the already burgeoning secondary core of the Woodlands. Burgeoning enough that the entire metro has been redesignated to include it as a principal city. I can totally see the entire Woodlands/Spring/North Freeway-Grand Parkway junction area becoming a huge subsection of the region if development is geared towards vital urban principals (something which is already occurring in some ways).

It could've been built in Conroe...or Rosenberg.

Or Dallas......

AviationGuy Sep 27, 2013 2:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by atlantaguy (Post 6279946)
I was talking with a client yesterday that lives in the Woodlands, and she said the Exxon/Mobil campus in particular is causing a big rise in home values there right now.

I have to admit as a an architecture/planning fan I love the design, but am conflicted on the location. But I love the West Houston master plan at Memorial Park even more. That is absolutely gorgeous!

Where is the West Houston master plan? Is that City Centre?

atlantaguy Sep 27, 2013 2:37 AM

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Originally Posted by AviationGuy (Post 6281201)
Where is the West Houston master plan? Is that City Centre?

Not sure if it's City Centre or not, AviationGuy.

I was referring to the beautiful renderings Tower Spotter posted a couple of pages back in post #5303.

I've never been to Houston. While I have a general understanding of the layout of the metro area, a lot of what I see here frankly confuses me since I don't really know the specifics of the area and certain districts, neighborhoods, etc.

I am long overdue for a trip down there. ;)

AustinTay Sep 27, 2013 2:45 AM

The metro rail was running on the North Line without being pulled near Patton and Cavalcade.

cloud713 Sep 27, 2013 3:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Reverberation (Post 6281196)
Or Dallas......

THIS. i think we should all keep that in mind that Exxon could have chosen to move the workers to Dallas with the corporate headquarters. instead they made an enormous investment in the Houston area and i believe that could eventually lead to a corporate headquarters relocation to Houston, which would be a big deal. Houston already has the 4th largest Fortune 500 company in the US (Phillips 66)... (Exxon is #2) Exxon, along with the rumored eventual Chevron corporate relocation (#3) would be huge for the area and sealing the title we already claim of energy capital of the world.

cloud713 Sep 27, 2013 3:14 AM

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Originally Posted by atlantaguy (Post 6281213)
Not sure if it's City Centre or not, AviationGuy.

I was referring to the beautiful renderings Tower Spotter posted a couple of pages back in post #5303.

I've never been to Houston. While I have a general understanding of the layout of the metro area, a lot of what I see here frankly confuses me since I don't really know the specifics of the area and certain districts, neighborhoods, etc.

I am long overdue for a trip down there. ;)

West Houston master plans are not the same as CityCentre. unfortunately they may just be conceptual plans for what developers could do with the area. according to Swamplots article on West Houston part of the plot of land they had it planned for is the site for the new Belfoire tower, im not sure how accurate that is though.

atlantaguy Sep 27, 2013 3:45 AM

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Originally Posted by cloud713 (Post 6281256)
West Houston master plans are not the same as CityCentre. unfortunately they may just be conceptual plans for what developers could do with the area. according to Swamplots article on West Houston part of the plot of land they had it planned for is the site for the new Belfoire tower, im not sure how accurate that is though.

Thanks, cloud713. I frankly didn't understand what AviationGuy was asking me, as I'm not familiar with CityCentre.

I love checking out this thread, but I obviously missed that proposal?

Shasta Sep 27, 2013 4:06 AM

Exxon was never going to leave Houston and move 20,000+ employees away from the energy capital.

As for how well it is being received, we'll see. Personally, I think Exxon made a mistake. The energy business already has an aging workforce and is finding it hard to find qualified candidates. I know a handful of long time Exxon employees who are PISSED OFF about their moves. These are guys that have spent 10-30 years building their lives in West U, Tanglewood, and Southampton (they worked downtown or near Greenway Plaza) and now they are looking at MUCH longer commutes or uprooting their families. I know one who is planning on retiring early and one who is busy with every head hunter in town looking to jump ship to Chevron, Shell, or anyone located closer to his home in Southside Place. I'd imagine there are quite a few folks who might be doing the same.

Exxon is taking a gamble that this campus will help set them apart whereas Chevron and Shell have chosen the opposite by remaining and expanding their downtown digs. Most younger folks I know would choose downtown over Springwoods if all other things were equal (pay, hours, benefits, etc...).

photoLith Sep 27, 2013 4:19 AM

I'm sure the move to the burbs was pushed by the higher ups who are most likely baby boomers or older and still think downtowns are like they were during the 70s.

Urbannizer Sep 27, 2013 5:44 AM

2929 Weslayan c/o aarosurf

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21 Eleven c/o Jax

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cloud713 Sep 27, 2013 5:59 AM

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Originally Posted by atlantaguy (Post 6281284)
Thanks, cloud713. I frankly didn't understand what AviationGuy was asking me, as I'm not familiar with CityCentre.

I love checking out this thread, but I obviously missed that proposal?

The West Houston master plan is the one you commented on a page or so back. unless you mean the Belfoire? in which case the proposal is here.. http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...light=Belfiore

CityCentre is a great mixed use development thats been wildly successful off of i10 and Beltway 8 west. http://www.houstonarchitecture.com/h...-13?hl=%20town

TowerSpotter Sep 27, 2013 6:08 PM

Marquette Cos. planning "a couple of highrise's in downtown", totaling more than 350 unit's. The firm will also be selling bit's of land in Galveston to developers.

http://www.bisnow.com/commercial-rea...ave-in-common/

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Managing director Darren Sloniger tells us Downtown feels like Chicago (where he's based) did 20 years ago. (We just wish the city had a winning basketball team like Chicago did 20 years ago.) The City's new retail strategy, focus on parks, and residential incentive all point to a submarket about to take off. He's doing due diligence on a few sites, and tells us he'd like to develop a couple high-rise projects totaling about 350 units Downtown.
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And the firm is gearing up its 1,000-acre Preserve at West Beach project (site plan above). The development's first sale closes in a few weeks, 157 acres to Artist's Boat. The site will be preserved and used to teach kids about nature. Darren tells us the rest of the project will be sold in manageable bites to developers, including two beachfront tracts (one for single family and one for a hotel).


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