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sparkling Oct 26, 2015 6:06 PM

Check Out the Views from 1,438 Feet in the Air at 111 West 57th Street


Virtual Tour

NYguy Oct 27, 2015 12:43 AM

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Originally Posted by BrownTown (Post 7211400)
This is building is like one of those 6ft tall runway models who weighs 110 pounds. Sure, some people like that, but others find it incredibly unhealthy looking. If it tapered up to the pinnacle that would be one thing, but the way it is now will make it an eyesore. Even being clad in pure cold wouldn't change that.

LOL, and I believe you're serious about that. But as long as you use the runway models, there's a reason they're the runway models. It's an "ideal" that people look up to, but very few actually accomplish (whether you agree with that or not).

So many buildings will fail in comparison to this once in a lifetime-quality beauty. And to think the equally beautiful 53W53 (Tower Verre) will be a virtual neighbor.




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Originally Posted by Crawford (Post 7211724)
It would actually be impossible to have a fatter building, simply because landmarked buildings can't be demolished. The developer is using every last bit of air rights.

Not to mention the shadows a "fatter" building would throw over the park, enough to send the NIMBYs into epic fits of protests.






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We're getting a lifetime's worth of amazing buildings in the city in a short amount of time. We are all being ruined.

And to think we are already spoiled with this amazing skyline...



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BrownTown Oct 27, 2015 12:47 AM

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Originally Posted by NYguy (Post 7212506)
LOL, and I believe you're serious about that. But as long as you use the runway models, there's a reason they're the runway models. It's an "ideal" that people look up to, but very few actually accomplish (whether you agree with that or not).

Well, that's your opinion, but in my opinion I like a building with a little more meat on her bones. 30 Hudson Yards is my dream building. :P

NYguy Oct 27, 2015 12:59 AM

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Originally Posted by BrownTown (Post 7212509)
Well, that's your opinion, but in my opinion I like a building with a little more meat on her bones. 30 Hudson Yards is my dream building. :P

Oh, I like big and boxy buildings also. But Manhattan is covered in bulky, boxy buildings. The towers like this one are the special skyscrapers that stand out. And just so you know, 30 Hudson is an office tower, the reason for the larger floorplates (the meat on its bones). As a residential, it would be less attractive.

WIGGLEWORTH Oct 27, 2015 2:02 AM

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Originally Posted by NYguy (Post 7212529)
Oh, I like big and boxy buildings also. But Manhattan is covered in bulky, boxy buildings. The towers like this one are the special skyscrapers that stand out. And just so you know, 30 Hudson is an office tower, the reason for the larger floorplates (the meat on its bones). As a residential, it would be less attractive.

I understand that.
I love the shape of this building so far. No problems there.

franktko Oct 27, 2015 2:05 AM

This building and Tower Verre (my favorite) are two of the best building in construction right now, certainly in the top 5 on this planet. Seems weird to me to have people bitching about them :shrug:

Busy Bee Oct 27, 2015 4:11 AM

The tower could have been wider had the developer been able to acquire the two little shits at 115 & 117 W 57 and straddled Steinway, but alas that could not and did not happen.

NYguy Oct 28, 2015 12:08 AM

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Originally Posted by sparkling (Post 7207682)


If the crown of One57 gets lit as has been shown in renderings, and possibly a nice lighting at the top of Nordstrom, it could be a pretty nice effect on that view of the skyline.



October 24, 2015


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Meanwhile, One57 stands supreme as 3 major towers go up around it...



A.G. Photographe

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CityGuy87 Oct 28, 2015 12:33 AM

^ What's happening on top of One57? And why do you think the crown hasn't been lit yet? It's been completed for a while now...

TechTalkGuy Oct 28, 2015 1:11 AM

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Originally Posted by CityGuy87 (Post 7213874)
^ What's happening on top of One57? And why do you think the crown hasn't been lit yet? It's been completed for a while now...

That's the window washers.
Pretty neat how it's completely stored under the roof, which explains why the very top is built like that. It's a series of mechanical floors I suppose.

chris08876 Nov 5, 2015 3:14 AM

Pics by me

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ILNY Nov 16, 2015 5:20 AM

Slowly, but work continues.

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NYguy Nov 16, 2015 6:50 AM

A few more from the street...


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Otie Nov 21, 2015 2:29 PM

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QUEENSNYMAN Nov 21, 2015 4:40 PM

Wow thank you Otie for this!!!

streetscaper Nov 21, 2015 7:34 PM

That whole iron structure behind Steinway still needs to come down right?? Since 111 W57th st will sit partially behind the landmarked building (Steinway).

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NYguy Nov 22, 2015 4:15 AM

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Originally Posted by streetscaper (Post 7243964)
That whole iron structure behind Steinway still needs to come down right?? Since 111 W57th st will sit partially behind the landmarked building (Steinway).

You've got it wrong. 111 W57th is the Steinway Building. This is being built as an extension. Some of the units will be in the existing building, which also accounts for a bulk of the space in the project. Think of the Hearst Tower a little further down 57th. Look at the graphic above, the entire thing is one building. Only that wall was supposed to be removed as part of the development.

sbarn Nov 22, 2015 10:17 AM

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Originally Posted by streetscaper (Post 7243964)
That whole iron structure behind Steinway still needs to come down right?? Since 111 W57th st will sit partially behind the landmarked building (Steinway).

I think there are two possibilities how the tower can be embedded into the existing Steinway Building as shown in Otie's (awesome!) rendering. Option 1; the exposed steel in that photograph will need to be removed and remainder of the existing building will need to be shored up. Option 2; the new tower will can cantilever over that portion of exposed steel. The second option seems tricky, so I think you're right that the exposed steel will need to be removed. In the plans, it looks like a massive shear wall will be coming down to the ground in that location.

NYGuy is right that architecturally speaking the existing building and new tower will function as one. However, from an engineering perspective, the new tower will need to be structurally independent to account for differential movement between the new building and the existing building.

streetscaper Nov 22, 2015 3:41 PM

Thanks for the responses. I agree, it seems highly unlikely that they would be able to cantilever an already ultra-thin supertall over the existing structure.

So if that iron structure most likely has to come down, I wonder what would be taking so long. And isn't it usually protocol to demo everything before starting foundation work?

It's all so confusing.

phoenixboi08 Nov 22, 2015 3:45 PM

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Originally Posted by NYguy (Post 7244324)
You've got it wrong. 111 W57th is the Steinway Building. This is being built as an extension. Some of the units will be in the existing building, which also accounts for a bulk of the space in the project. Think of the Hearst Tower a little further down 57th. Look at the graphic above, the entire thing is one building. Only that wall was supposed to be removed as part of the development.

Yes, I believe you are correct.


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