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LeftCoaster Mar 26, 2019 11:15 PM

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Originally Posted by J81 (Post 8509453)
Theyre putting their brand new A350-1000XWB on the route when they arrive. I think that says that your theory may not be accurate.

I didn't have a theory, I just said farming out the route to an old A340 operated by a different airline is not a strong move.

The A350 is welcome news, though it lacks first class it is a great plane.

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Originally Posted by nname (Post 8518576)
Update for AC service to/from India...

Starting April 4th, AC43 will no longer operate DEL-YYZ, new schedule is

AC43 DEL-YVR with 1:45am arrival
AC1043 YVR-YYZ with 3:30am departure and 10:51am arrival

AC42 still run YYZ-DEL non-stop.

I guess YYZ-bound passengers will clear custom at YVR in the middle of the night? I wonder if each segments can be booked separately...

Arrival time at YYZ is pretty much the same with DEL-CPH-YYZ, but should be slightly better if it becomes domestic arrival?

What a bizarre world that this is the most sensible solution.

Never thought I'd see DEL-YVR go double daily :haha:

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Originally Posted by craneSpotter (Post 8519518)
Top seaplane airline Harbour Air looking at switching to battery-powered aircraft

Ian Bailey - Vancouver - Mar 26, 2019 TGAM
https://www.theglobeandmail.com/cana...ered-aircraft/

I always wondered if this was possible. Good to see I wasn't the only one.

I wonder if they can put solar panels on the wings to keep costs down.

Rogie Mar 27, 2019 2:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Jaws (Post 8519248)
That is incorrect and I’ve researched this ad naseum. Nexus OR passport.

Huh, you're right.

That's changed, and frankly, it's a good change.

casper Mar 27, 2019 2:26 AM

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Originally Posted by LeftCoaster (Post 8519562)
I didn't have a theory, I just said farming out the route to an old A340 operated by a different airline is not a strong move.

The A350 is welcome news, though it lacks first class it is a great plane.



What a bizarre world that this is the most sensible solution.

Never thought I'd see DEL-YVR go double daily :haha:


That is what the only domestic flight leaving YVR at 3:30 AM in the morning....

youngregina Mar 27, 2019 2:35 AM

Stats for YYC YTD and Monthly.

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Originally Posted by hollywoodcory (Post 8519008)
February stats:

Domestic: 879,128 (+5.8%)
Transborder: 272,435 (+5.3%)
International: 178,942 (+4.7%)
February Total: 1,330,505 (+5.7%)
2019 Overall Total: 2,707,515 (+5.72%)

https://www.yyc.com/en-us/media/fact...tatistics.aspx


lubicon Mar 27, 2019 6:10 PM

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Originally Posted by thenoflyzone (Post 8518622)
You can't book each leg separately. It's a simple fuel stop. If AC was allowed to keep passengers on board and simply refuel, they probably would. However, you need to clear customs at your first airport of entry.
The stop has been changed to YVR, since AC now routes DEL-Canada flights eastbound out of DEL, over the Pacific. This is done mainly to avoid Pakistani airspace. When Pakistan opens its airspace for overflights, the fuel stop wont be required.

The eastbound routing (as opposed to northwestbound out of DEL), takes advantage of the tailwinds, even if distance wise, it's a longer route.

Am I misunderstanding what is happening here because I have been on many flights that stop in one city before continuing on to another (only dropping off passengers) and those continuing on do not deplane and will clear customs at their final destination.

thenoflyzone Mar 27, 2019 7:56 PM

Passengers always clear customs/immigration at the first point of arrival in Canada. Thus, you would clear at YVR regardless of the onward tag to YYZ.

This is how it's done on AC GVA-YUL-YYZ, as an example.

LeftCoaster Mar 27, 2019 8:08 PM

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Originally Posted by youngregina (Post 8519794)
Stats for YYC YTD and Monthly.

Great numbers for YYC so far, this is going to be a huge summer for them with the intl and transborder expansion Westjet is rolling out.

Bourkky Mar 27, 2019 8:49 PM

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Originally Posted by thenoflyzone (Post 8520674)
Passengers always clear customs/immigration at the first point of arrival in Canada. Thus, you would clear at YVR regardless of the onward tag to YYZ.

This is how it's done on AC GVA-YUL-YYZ, as an example.

Because the YUL-YYZ leg can be sold separately no? I remember back maybe 10 or 12 years ago, Olympic and Czech Airlines were both stoping in YUL, disembarking the YUL passengers and keeping the YYZ passengers on board. Both flight would go on to YYZ with the remaining of the passengers clearing customs in YYZ. Can this still be done? Or there is a new law or something that now requires airlines to have their passengers clear customs at the first point of arrival in canada?

lubicon Mar 27, 2019 9:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thenoflyzone (Post 8520674)
Passengers always clear customs/immigration at the first point of arrival in Canada. Thus, you would clear at YVR regardless of the onward tag to YYZ.

This is how it's done on AC GVA-YUL-YYZ, as an example.

As I said earlier, that has not been my experience which was why I was asking. As a matter of fact I have not been on any flights that required clearing customs and then reboarding. Unless of course the second segment is a domestic leg that picks up passengers for the second leg.

hollywoodcory Mar 27, 2019 10:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thenoflyzone (Post 8520674)
Passengers always clear customs/immigration at the first point of arrival in Canada. Thus, you would clear at YVR regardless of the onward tag to YYZ.

This is how it's done on AC GVA-YUL-YYZ, as an example.

https://www.aircanada.com/ca/en/aco/...-to-india.html

AC says passengers bound for YYZ or Eastern Canada/US will remain on board during the stop in YVR.

nname Mar 27, 2019 11:41 PM

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Originally Posted by hollywoodcory (Post 8520960)
https://www.aircanada.com/ca/en/aco/...-to-india.html

AC says passengers bound for YYZ or Eastern Canada/US will remain on board during the stop in YVR.

Quote:

If your destination is Toronto, Eastern Canada or the Eastern United States, you will remain on board during the Vancouver stop. Only passengers whose destination is Vancouver, Western Canada or the Western United States) will disembark.
So they will be selling DEL-YVR segment as a standalone flight, but not the YVR-YYZ segment?

Blader Mar 27, 2019 11:46 PM

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Originally Posted by hollywoodcory (Post 8520960)
https://www.aircanada.com/ca/en/aco/...-to-india.html

AC says passengers bound for YYZ or Eastern Canada/US will remain on board during the stop in YVR.

This is really interesting. In theory there would not have been YVR bound passengers on this flight. Have they opened DEL-YVR for sale, and if so why?

Possibly demand from and in consort with other airlines having issues with closed Pakistan airspace?

Many questions - I have no answers.

Edit:
I didn't consider the possibility of connecting passengers from YYZ-YVR now travelling non-stop.

thenoflyzone Mar 27, 2019 11:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hollywoodcory (Post 8520960)
https://www.aircanada.com/ca/en/aco/...-to-india.html

AC says passengers bound for YYZ or Eastern Canada/US will remain on board during the stop in YVR.

Interesting. CBSA policy might have changed, or AC might have gotten a waiver by CBSA in order to do that. Could have something to do with the 1h30am arrival into YVR. (I'm thinking lack of CBSA staffing at night)

From what I've read in the past, it was CBSA policy for international passengers to report to the CBSA at the first port of arrival (FPOA) in Canada.

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Originally Posted by Bourkky (Post 8520745)
Because the YUL-YYZ leg can be sold separately no? I remember back maybe 10 or 12 years ago, Olympic and Czech Airlines were both stoping in YUL, disembarking the YUL passengers and keeping the YYZ passengers on board. Both flight would go on to YYZ with the remaining of the passengers clearing customs in YYZ. Can this still be done? Or there is a new law or something that now requires airlines to have their passengers clear customs at the first point of arrival in canada?

3 words.

Secure hold room.

Definition: a room that has been approved by CBSA where international passengers and their goods remain in a controlled environment pending processing by the CIS, or until their departure to a point outside Canada, or to another point in Canada (for CIS processing).

RJ does this on AMM-YUL-DTW.

Also, read about "progressive flights".

https://www.cbsa-asfc.gc.ca/publicat...2-5-5-eng.html

YYCguys Mar 28, 2019 12:43 AM

Travelling on Sunwing to Cancun from Toronto, we stopped in Cozumel first and were kept in a secure room whilst the Cozumel bound guests were processed then we got back on and continued to Cancun.

Rogie Mar 28, 2019 1:07 AM

Skytrax World Airport rankings, four Canadian facilities make the list:

- Vancouver 17th - tops in North America
- Toronto 50th
- Montreal - 62nd
- Halifax - 90th

http://westernaviationnews.com/2019/...skytrax-award/

jmt18325 Mar 28, 2019 1:11 AM

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Originally Posted by thenoflyzone (Post 8520674)
Passengers always clear customs/immigration at the first point of arrival in Canada. Thus, you would clear at YVR regardless of the onward tag to YYZ.

This is how it's done on AC GVA-YUL-YYZ, as an example.

That certainly isn't what happened last year on my CUN-YQT-YWG fight.

nname Mar 28, 2019 1:28 AM

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Originally Posted by thenoflyzone (Post 8521038)
Interesting. CBSA policy might have changed, or AC might have gotten a waiver by CBSA in order to do that. Could have something to do with the 1h30am arrival into YVR. (I'm thinking lack of CBSA staffing at night)

YVR regularly receive planes at night though.. so I believe it's staffed 24/7...?

For instance, CX have daily arrival from JFK at 12:45am.

Seasonal second daily 4O flights from MEX and/or CUN usually arrives between 1:20am to 3:40am.

PR used to have 4x weekly from JFK arriving at 3:30am.

Coldrsx Mar 28, 2019 2:46 AM

YEG-SEA Monday -140pm Dept not a seat left on the plane, front full
SEA-YEG Wednesday - 250pm Dept just a couple remaining, front full

p_xavier Mar 28, 2019 10:02 AM

CBC: New Icelandic budget airline WOW Air ceases operations Icelandic budget
airline WOW Air says it has.
https://www-cbc-ca.cdn.ampproject.or.../amp/1.5074662

cyeg66 Mar 28, 2019 1:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Coldrsx (Post 8521241)
YEG-SEA Monday -140pm Dept not a seat left on the plane, front full
SEA-YEG Wednesday - 250pm Dept just a couple remaining, front full

That was my experience a couple of weeks ago. YEG-SEA, not a single seat available on the afternoon Horizon flight. Then Delta SEA-YVR, one empty seat. Then WS YVR-YEG, not an available seat. Don’t ask me about Flair to PSP, though. 😂


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