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Johnny Aussie Jul 23, 2016 1:05 AM

Enerjet and NewLeaf
 
Interesting last minute development.

With Newleaf just days away from launch, Enerjet will not be flying any of the Newleaf flights. They were going to be flying the Edmonton based flights except for Hamilton. Flair will now be flying all the Newleaf flights. Have no idea what happened. I did read on airliners.net that Enerjet "walked away" as no agreement could be reached (whether that was with Flair or Newleaf?). No corroborating evidence for that statement though.
Enerjet was to be just a small part of the contracted flying but this development would still require a bit of a logistics shuffle last minute.

I have been passively following NewLeaf on social media and have noticed they dropped their fares 50% for their opening week of launch (next week) and are "bragging" their first flight from Hamilton to Moncton is sold out. I would bloody well hope all their flights are as at those fares break even would probably be in the 90s.

I hate being a pessimist but launching so late in the summer with only one month of heavy leisure travel before Labour Day...... and still no schedules past the end of September.....

thenoflyzone Jul 24, 2016 7:17 PM

Here are a few pics of YUL, as promised. 19 to 20 heavies on the apron between 4 pm and 8 pm. The international jetty, even though it was newly extended, is full for most of that time. TS and AC regularly have to tow their aircraft onto remote stands or their respective hangars due to lack of space.

https://c1.staticflickr.com/9/8695/2...63a52128_b.jpgIMG_20160722_164940 by thenoflyzone, on Flickr

https://c4.staticflickr.com/9/8228/2...c13f2f17_b.jpgIMG_20160721_204239 by thenoflyzone, on Flickr

https://c6.staticflickr.com/8/7775/2...5217f946_b.jpgIMG_20160721_180253 by thenoflyzone, on Flickr

https://c7.staticflickr.com/9/8017/2...0001e773_b.jpgIMG_20160721_180223 by thenoflyzone, on Flickr

https://c4.staticflickr.com/9/8129/2...c8511812_b.jpgIMG_20160721_180231 by thenoflyzone, on Flickr

https://c8.staticflickr.com/9/8677/2...e4aa9d07_b.jpgIMG_20160721_180319 by thenoflyzone, on Flickr

Klazu Jul 24, 2016 7:59 PM

Vancouver International Airport as seen from Metrotown, Burnaby.

http://vuosiamaailmalla.fi/blog/wp-c...panoraama1.jpg

DrNest Jul 24, 2016 8:13 PM

Great photo Klazu!

thenoflyzone Jul 24, 2016 9:04 PM

^
Nice pic Klazu. That's one view we can't replicate at YUL ! The only "terrain" we have (if you can even call it that!) is somewhat evident in that last pic of mine. And yet that dinky hill of ours is enough to restrict right turns off of the 06's.

Honestly, if you can't clear Mount Royal out of YUL, even on one engine out, you shouldn't be certified as a commercial aircraft, period ! But i digress.

On another note, June numbers for YUL are out. 1,451,600 passengers, up 6.6% compared to June 2015. On track to surpass 16 million passengers this year.

YTD 7,867,900 +4.9%

http://www.admtl.com/sites/default/f...omm%20T2-A.pdf

Klazu Jul 24, 2016 9:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thenoflyzone (Post 7511566)
^
Nice pic Klazu. That's one view we can't replicate at YUL ! The only "terrain" we have (if you can even call it that!) is somewhat evident in that last pic of mine. ]

Thank you. This is a small part of the view from our 46th floor penthouse, above all of Metro Vancouver. More to come. :)

ghYHZ Jul 24, 2016 11:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Klazu (Post 7511575)
Thank you. This is a small part of the view from our 46th floor penthouse, above all of Metro Vancouver. More to come. :)

Just stunning!

The Chemist Jul 25, 2016 12:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thenoflyzone (Post 7511510)
Here are a few pics of YUL, as promised. 19 to 20 heavies on the apron between 4 pm and 8 pm. The international jetty, even though it was newly extended, is full for most of that time. TS and AC regularly have to tow their aircraft onto remote stands or their respective hangars due to lack of space.

https://c1.staticflickr.com/9/8695/2...63a52128_b.jpgIMG_20160722_164940 by thenoflyzone, on Flickr

https://c4.staticflickr.com/9/8228/2...c13f2f17_b.jpgIMG_20160721_204239 by thenoflyzone, on Flickr

https://c6.staticflickr.com/8/7775/2...5217f946_b.jpgIMG_20160721_180253 by thenoflyzone, on Flickr

https://c7.staticflickr.com/9/8017/2...0001e773_b.jpgIMG_20160721_180223 by thenoflyzone, on Flickr

https://c4.staticflickr.com/9/8129/2...c8511812_b.jpgIMG_20160721_180231 by thenoflyzone, on Flickr

https://c8.staticflickr.com/9/8677/2...e4aa9d07_b.jpgIMG_20160721_180319 by thenoflyzone, on Flickr

I've never seen that Air Canada Rouge livery before. Is it wrong that I think it looks better than Air Canada's mainline livery?:shrug:

jmt18325 Jul 25, 2016 12:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Chemist (Post 7511701)
I've never seen that Air Canada Rouge livery before. Is it wrong that I think it looks better than Air Canada's mainline livery?:shrug:

It's a beautiful livery. I actually think the mainline looks high class with the frosty off white, but some don't like it.

After flying Rouge, I'd do it again, but only with a neck pillow. It's hard to sleep with the only 3 recline

SteelTown Jul 25, 2016 2:10 PM

And NewLeaf is now in business

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CoNxRg6UIAAb7tt.jpg
Scott Gardner
https://twitter.com/Scottatthespec?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CoN1GAzWYAAV2wb.jpg
Kelly Bennett
https://twitter.com/kellyrbennett

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CoN1GCAWAAA3lRg.jpg
Kelly Bennett
https://twitter.com/kellyrbennett

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CoNuRkpWcAQ6KnB.jpg
Kelly Bennett
https://twitter.com/kellyrbennett

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CoNuRj0W8AULS2O.jpg
Kelly Bennett
https://twitter.com/kellyrbennett

MonctonRad Jul 25, 2016 2:30 PM

:previous:

The inaugural New Leaf flight from Hamilton to Moncton is apparently sold out.

DrNest Jul 25, 2016 2:34 PM

I wish NewLeaf all the best. It will be good for air travel in Canada if they can get their business strategy to work and offer competitive prices with dependable performance.

SteelTown Jul 25, 2016 2:35 PM

I used to take WestJet from Hamilton to Moncton during the summer but WestJet cut that route. It seemed busy to me. No surprise it sold out with NewLeaf. I wouldn't be surprised if WestJet brings the route back.

WestJet brought back Hamilton to Edmonton, which starts on the 29th. I wonder why? lol

MonctonRad Jul 25, 2016 2:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SteelTown (Post 7511985)
I used to take WestJet from Hamilton to Moncton during the summer but WestJet cut that route. It seemed busy to me. No surprise it sold out with NewLeaf. I wouldn't be surprised if WestJet brings the route back.

WestJet brought back Hamilton to Edmonton, which starts on the 29th. I wonder why? lol

Yes, it will be interesting to see what WestJet does with the old Hamilton/Moncton route. When WestJet cut the route, they increased their frequency on the Moncton/Pearson route instead, so their capacity to southern Ontario from Moncton remained the same.

SignalHillHiker Jul 25, 2016 5:01 PM

Quote:

WestJet announced its winter 2017 flight schedule Monday, and there are a few additions of interest for Newfoundlanders and Labradorians. Starting in April 2017, WestJet will offer a weekly direct flight from St. John's to Tampa, Florida.

The airline will also expand its Toronto-Gander connection. Beginning Oct. 24 of this year, the flight will be offered four times per week.
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/newfou...2017-1.3694063

jmt18325 Jul 25, 2016 6:02 PM

Not much for Winnipeg other than an additional weekly flight to Phoenix, going from 4 to 5.

connect2source Jul 25, 2016 9:36 PM

Are any of Flair Airlines' planes to be painted in New Leaf colours? Seems having no visual identity on their planes is a bit odd.

jmt18325 Jul 25, 2016 9:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by connect2source (Post 7512401)
Are any of Flair Airlines' planes to be painted in New Leaf colours? Seems having no visual identity on their planes is a bit odd.

According to the Nationla Post article I just read, they'll be painted.

Maybe Flair wants to wait and not be stuck with the bill to change it back.

LeftCoaster Jul 25, 2016 10:54 PM

Another YVR route to some city in China you've never heard of but has over 6 million people...

Looks like this one will likely take at least one frequency from the existing Chengdu-Shenyang-Vancouver route, at least until the Canada-China bilateral is expanded to allow for more flights. Word is this is what's holding back some of the already applied for flights such as Tianjin-Vancouver, Guanzhou-Toronto, Hangzhou-Qingdao-Vancouver etc...

Quote:

Originally Posted by nname (Post 7512229)
Sichuan Airlines had applied for 2x weekly Chengdu-Zhengzhou-Vancouver starting October. Some of the frequency will come from reducing service on the Chengdu-Shenyang-Vancouver route.


giallo Jul 26, 2016 2:24 AM

Wow. Vancouver to Zhengzhou. That's weird. One of my best friend in Shanghai is from Zhengzhou, Henan, and he says it's a total dump.


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