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NEW YORK | NY Yankees: YANKEE STADIUM
All good things must come to an end. But hopefully, a new one is just beginning...
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Wrecker’s ball is long overdue Outdated Stadium should be history Shaun Powell February 1, 2007 It's never nice to speak ill about the ill, especially when death is apparent. With that in mind, I'll be kind and just say this: Yankee Stadium can't collapse fast enough. Unfortunately, the Grim Reaper won't swing the wrecking ball until sometime in October 2008, depending on when Alex Rodriguez kills another playoff run. That's 21 months from now, or roughly the time between Carl Pavano starts. Until then, baseball fans must continue to root for the Yankees while sitting in a facility past its glory, which is sort of like taking Giselle Bundchen for a spin in a wheezing, old Coup de Ville. Please, this is no disrespect to the history of the stadium itself. Just the stadium itself. Four million people visit Yankee Stadium every year to see Derek Jeter throw across his body to first base, to witness what $200 million buys these days in baseball talent, to observe the winningest team in baseball this decade. Four million people do not visit Yankee Stadium to do a riverdance while standing in line for the three or four restrooms. Four million people do not visit Yankee Stadium to squeeze through aisles built for supermodels or fight for shouting space at concession stands the size of shopping-mall information booths. Four million people, or at least the few who dare to drive, do not visit Yankee Stadium hours before the first pitch just so they can find one of the limited parking spaces sold at monthly home mortgages. Once you remove the product on the field and Monument Park in the outfield, the "Yankee experience" is like the death of Barbaro: overrated and overplayed. Mayor Michael Bloomberg, commissioner Bud Selig and other important types made it official yesterday when the All-Star Game was given to the Bronx in '08, but this was a mercy gesture, a nice way of being nice to a sick, suffering old cathedral that should've had the plug pulled a decade ago. Ordinarily, the Midseason Classic wouldn't come anywhere near Yankee Stadium, because baseball knows what we know: The place isn't fit for it. The beauty of the Stadium nowadays lies exclusively with the history and tradition of the Yankees. People are attracted by walls that talk. They know this is where Babe Ruth smacked his 60th homer and where Don Larsen pitched his perfect World Series game. They want to press their ears close enough to hear the heavy heartbeats from Lou Gehrig's courageous speech and the Babe's good-bye. They know they're standing in the same place where Roger Maris hit No. 61, where Aaron Boone needed one swing and where Reggie needed three. They also know this is where Joe Louis put Max Schmeling to sleep and where Chuck Bednarik did the same to Frank Gifford. A pair of popes blessed the crowd, and the end zone blessed Alan Ameche in the Greatest Game Ever Played. All that history is so rich and rewarding and priceless in a building with the charm of Simon Cowell. Despite getting more nips and tucks than the cast of "The View," the Stadium has seen better days. It can't compare to any of the grand old baseball buildings still standing. For sheer magnificence, nothing tops Dodger Stadium, still in all its retro 1960s glory, sitting atop Chavez Ravine. Wrigley Field also blows away Yankee Stadium, especially if you compare the neighborhoods that surround both ballparks. And Fenway Park, cozy, intimate and buffeted by the imposing Green Monster, is a more inviting place to waste a lazy afternoon. Yankee Stadium would've gone long ago had George Steinbrenner not wasted time with his misguided attempt at building in Manhattan or flirting with New Jersey. Meanwhile, the cost of materials went up, to the point at which the price of the new Stadium in the Bronx will equal six Yankee payrolls. Well, if that's what it takes to move the Yankees into the 21st century and out of a dated building, so be it. Only three items are worth taking across the street to the new place. The arching façade, because it's the trademark. Monument Park, which deserves more space and a better presentation. And the roll call. Well, there is something nice we can say about the old place. It's not exactly Shea Stadium. |
A few more renderings and pics from the website:
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this stadium is gonna rock.
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Pre-Opening Day Jitters for Establishments That Live in Yankee Stadium’s Shadow http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/...tadium.600.jpg Outside his Yankee Eatery, Louie Dituri, in cap, supervises a frozen pizza delivery. By TRYMAINE LEE April 2, 2007 Louie Dituri stood in front of his restaurant, the Yankee Eatery, across River Avenue from Yankee Stadium, on Sunday and ran through a mental checklist of last-minute preparations. His guys were precooking several batches of their famous shish kebabs, and the fresh rolls he ordered were to be delivered this morning. The bar in the back of the place was loaded, and after five days of spring cleaning, each crack and crevice was spotless. This section of the South Bronx was awakening, and there was nothing left for Mr. Dituri to do but wait for today, when the New York Yankees open their season at home against the Tampa Bay Devil Rays. Mr. Dituri’s business, like others along the River Avenue corridor, depends on Yankees baseball to survive. His shop was filled with nervous energy: part excitement, part anxiety, part anticipation as employees waited for the first customers, the first baseball fans to walk into the Yankee Eatery and buy something, a sweet Italian sausage, a hamburger, anything. “We’re only here when the Yankees are playing,” Mr. Dituri said. “So no baseball, no business. We wait all winter for this.” The shop is open only during Yankees home games, including playoffs. Above River Avenue yesterday, the No. 4 train grumbled down its tracks, the grinding of metal on metal blending with street noise and workers there doing last-minute repairs before today’s stadium rush. “Wet paint” signs were staggered from the steel beams jutting down from the tracks, and shopkeepers checked and double-checked their supplies. Inside the Ball Park Lanes and the adjoining Ball Park Sports Bar & Grill on River Avenue, workers hung last-minute advertisements for domestic beers as the manager, George Diamantis, stood behind the shoe rental counter and surveyed the job. “When the season starts, more business, more customers,” Mr. Diamantis said tersely with an impatient grin. “What can I say? I’m excited to have the Yankees back.” Mr. Diamantis said the business also made money by checking bags for stadiumgoers, who have been restricted since Sept. 11 from taking them into the stadium. Business owners in the area agreed that opening day was one of the biggest business days of the year. Out-of-towners and homegrown baseball fans pack the area and spend their money in surrounding businesses. But the owners also said that baseball fans could be a fickle bunch and that booms and slumps in business had as much to do with winning or losing as with which teams the Yankees were playing and when. A game versus the Boston Red Sox is always a big game; so are cross-city battles with the Mets. Low draws tend to be teams from the Midwest or those with bad records. Others said the Bronx’s gritty or dangerous reputation kept some game attendees from shopping in the area at all. The future for many shop owners on River Avenue is uncertain, with the new Yankee Stadium to open for the 2009 season. The new stadium, to be built next door, is expected to have a bolstered commercial space inside. Many business owners fear that that commercial space will greatly hurt their ability to attract customers and that this season may be one of their last good ones. The subway riders they have snagged for decades walking past the shops to the stadium will soon be dropped off right at the new stadium. And there will be bigger souvenir shops and places to eat inside. But for Mr. Dituri, there is no time to look too far into the future when there are shish kebabs and sausage to grill. He stood in front of his little shop and took a deep breath, enjoying what he said could be the last bit of calm and sanity he will experience between that very moment and the start of the season. |
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Anybody got any recent pics of the stadium....since it looks like there will be much going on....we should try and get a monthly update going...or sooner if you guys prefer. I wanna head back to the stadium before it's demolished.:banana:
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Its pretty dark but these are pretty recent
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c8...8/DSC03705.jpg http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c8...8/DSC03708.jpg http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c8...8/DSC03713.jpg http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c8...8/DSC03714.jpg the old stadium is famous for being right up against the subway like this http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c8...8/DSC03721.jpg the new one will keep that tradition http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c8...8/DSC03722.jpg i'll try and get back there during the daytime |
Nice to see a lot going on...thanks for the pics....yeah my cousin in yonkers says he was gonna go to a game in late may and would try and get some pictures. He says his buddy is working there until end of the year....so he might try and get some up close pics. I haven't been back to New york since 98 and that was winter time so no games unfortunately. I wanna take my kid to the old stadium just like my dad took me when i was a boy. I was looking at some old pics of my family from 20 years ago when we went to cooperstown and yankee stadium......I'm sure gonna miss this thing but the new one will be a true monument....Mets new ballpark will be a serious upgrade from shea....too bad it's still by LGA.
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It looks exactly like the present Yankee stadium.
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are you talking from the renders or from the pics. cause this:
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c8...8/DSC03721.jpg is the current stadium. just illustrating how close it is the elevated train. and this: http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c8...8/DSC03715.jpg is how far the new one has progressed. |
Scruffy,
The new stadium is supposed to look like the Pre 1970's renovation stadium. That's what I mean. The old stadium as it looks today wasn't "renovated" more like it was rebuilt completely.....the new stadium is gonna be built with the limestone they used to build the original stadium in 1923. You look at the pre 1970's stadium and it just looks massive and beautiful. It would be nice to see them bring back Death valley and put Monument park outside the stadium. |
nevermind scruffy....thought you were talking to me....apologies...
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Loco, no worries.
I can't wait to stroll this and Citifield (hate calling it that). I love the throwback to golden days of baseball with the architecture. They could have gone all hi-tech like Jets Stadium in Manhattan was supposed to be, but thats not NYC baseball. I love the way it looks. Citifield looks fantastic too, but that suffers from location. The airport, the situation in a sea of parking lots. But that not really fixable. |
the new stadium looks like the current stadium. why not just re-renovate the current stadium since it pretty much looks like the same stadium anyway. :shrug:
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A couple of quick vids taken last summer...
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I think it is AWESOME that they are trying to maintain the history of the park, that is really cool. Otherwise you end up with Parks like the ones in Pittsburgh, or Detroit, or the Reds park. I hope if/when the Redsox get a new stadium they do the same thing. |
Just saw this thread. The new stadium looks like its going to be awesome! I thiught that i had heard that the were keeping old Yankee stadium. If its coming down soon I'll have to get up there to see a game. I live in Philly and as nice as the Phillies new park is, I still miss the Vet with all its flaws. I wish they kept it for concerts and other events but now it is just a nice parking lot.
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http://www.nytimes.com/2007/05/01/sp...pagewanted=all
Latest Developments in a Crosstown Rivalry http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/...omir.1.600.jpg Jeff Wilpon, the Mets’ chief operating officer, giving a tour of the Citi Field construction site last month. By RICHARD SANDOMIR May 1, 2007 Home plate at Citi Field in Flushing is marked by a patch of Astroturf. In the Bronx, an outcropping of New York schist was leveled by chisel hammers attached to earth movers to clear the land for the future home plate at the new Yankee Stadium. The pitcher’s mound in the Bronx will be where a yellow Dumpster rests, while a steel span in Flushing that emulates the Hell Gate bridge over the East River will soon support the concourse in right-center field. The Mets and the Yankees are racing to open their new stadiums by opening day 2009. Those passing the construction sites — huge rocky pits that are filled with cranes, earth movers, steel, giant pieces of precast concrete — see the concrete frame of one stadium rising in the Bronx over former parkland and another one of steel ascending over parking spaces beside Shea Stadium. “This place is so big, so wide open now, but when it’s filled with grass and seats, it will envelop you,” said Jeff Wilpon, the chief operating officer of the Mets, as he walked through the Citi Field site during a recent tour. Behind him, Shea remains, a vestige of an unadventurous period in sports architecture. “A dull, dingy place,” Wilpon said. In his office, Wilpon keeps a miniature replica of Ebbets Field, a daily reminder of the architectural muse of Citi Field. It includes the rotunda through which Brooklyn Dodgers fans, including his father, Fred, the Mets’ principal owner, used to enter. He removed the tiny rotunda piece from the rest of the model and said, “Fred can tell us how it used to smell in there.” A reimagined rotunda, which will be named for Jackie Robinson, is also beginning to take shape; so is the footprint of the Great Hall, a meeting place, among other things, through which many of the fans visiting the new Yankee Stadium will enter. It will stand 60 feet high and span left field to right field, along 161st Street, from Jerome Avenue to River Avenue. “It will be unparalleled, similar in scope to the Grand Central Station waiting room,” said Valerie Peltier, a managing director for development of Tishman Speyer, on a tour of the Yankee Stadium site last week. Tishman Speyer is overseeing construction of the $800 million stadium. Jerry Speyer, the company’s president, is on the board of Yankee Global Enterprises. Executives from each team said that they were not competing with each other over who would have the better ballpark. It is almost enough that the deals were made, with city and state contributions for infrastructure and other nonconstruction costs, to let the teams build new ballparks. Since 1991, 18 new major league stadiums have been built. “After nothing happening for 15 or 20 years, it’s all happening here in the same time period,” said Dave Howard, an executive vice president of the Mets. Beside the ballparks, the Devils’ arena in Newark is nearly done, the Jets and the Giants are planning construction of their shared Meadowlands stadium, and the Nets hope to start building their arena in Brooklyn soon. The first level of the steel structure in Flushing is nearly in place, with yellow caution tape flapping in the wind, affording a raw view of a design fiat: fans will be able to see the field nearly anywhere they walk along the 40-foot-wide concourses, except from behind the Sterling luxury boxes that are 18 rows from field level, a club on the Promenade level and a restaurant in left field. “In the old stadiums, nobody thought about that,” Wilpon said. Three levels of concrete structure are in various stages of completion at the new Yankee Stadium, more along right field than left. Rakers, 40-foot pieces of steel onto which the seats will be installed, will be arriving next week. A crane to handle the steel is being assembled. The construction already obscures a portion of the rusted elevated train tracks and takes place around a New York City Transit substation that will eventually be blocked by the giant outfield scoreboard. Nascent dugouts are visible in little excavations several feet below field level across a rocky landscape from which 350 cubic yards of dirt were removed before construction began. The future site of Monument Park is below a platform that supports several office trailers. “The most interesting thing to me,” said Lonn Trost, the chief operating officer of the Yankees, looking over the site, “is to take the tradition of Yankee Stadium, replicate it here, and provide fans with something new.” The new stadium will have the same field dimensions as the current one, with more seats angled to the infield. It will also resurrect the original exterior with limestone, concrete and granite, and recreate the frieze that ringed the stadium, with 39 sections of white-painted steel weighing six tons each, to be made in Quebec. The new frieze should not turn green in the air, as did the old copper one, which was removed in the 1974-5 stadium renovation. Some of the 24,000 pieces of precast concrete that will comprise the Citi Field exterior are already in Flushing, some weighing 1,000 pounds. The front of each piece is covered with bricks, which are sliced lengthwise to reduce the weight yet create the impression of a brick facade. It is so different in architectural ambition and style from the original Shea design of blue and orange tiles arranged over exposed ramps. “By the end of this season, most of the exterior facade will be in place,” Howard said. “It will look like the virtual model we have online.” Shea still serves a purpose, beyond housing the Mets for two more seasons, and it is not simply to underscore the limits of the dual-purpose stadiums. Inside an unused section of the World’s Fair-era hulk, the Mets have built a showroom that depicts what the 10 Sterling and 40 Excelsior luxury suites will look like (the former will have bathrooms modeled on the Four Seasons restaurant’s). Various types of seats can be tested for comfort. The team is also using the showroom to assess carpeting, tile, color and other design schemes — Jeff Wilpon, who grew up in the family’s real estate development business, can offer a spiel about terrazzo floors — for the suites, clubhouses and concourses. The concourses may have glazed wall tile. “I want to know what we’ve designed before we sell it,” Wilpon said. The $600 million stadium will reflect its era, as its predecessor did. Shea’s opening was envisioned for 1962, the Mets’ inaugural season, but after delays, it took about two more years to complete. The original Yankee Stadium took an astonishingly quick 284 days to finish in time, providing the team with a home of its own after being told to leave the Polo Grounds. “How often do you get to build Yankee Stadium?” Peltier said. “Never.” Well, almost. |
i love how the stadium looks on the outside. it really looks like the old pictures of the stadium in the 20's and 30's, except in color. i hope they put more room for concessions in the mezzanines.
i hate that stupid restaurant beyond centerfield. it seems very cheesy. |
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i agree about the restaurant.. I need to get to a game and take some photos of the new stadium.. i cant find pics anywhere. |
Pics from stadiumpage.com
(May 22, 2007) http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/80195852/large.jpg http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/80195852/original.jpg http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/80195853/original.jpg http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/80195855/large.jpg http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/80195858/original.jpg |
http://www.nypost.com/seven/07212007...reau_chief.htm
YANKS & BRONX ON RIGHT TRACK: POLS http://www.nypost.com/seven/07212007/photos/news02a.jpg By DAVID SEIFMAN July 21, 2007 The official groundbreaking for a $91 million Metro-North station at Yankee Stadium provided officials yesterday with the chance to declare that The Bronx is on the permanent comeback track. Gov. Spitzer noted that ESPN is airing a TV series based on the 1977 Yankees, who won the World Series during a tumultuous era in both the team's and the city's history, titled, "The Bronx is Burning." "Everything that was going wrong 30 years ago is going right in this great city today," said Spitzer. "Instead of 'The Bronx is Burning,' we're going to call ESPN and say they should do a sequel, and it's going to be called 'The Bronx is Booming.' " The new station is scheduled to open in June 2009, two months after the new Yankee Stadium now under construction is scheduled for completion. The MTA is picking up $51.2 million of the cost, while the city is chipping in $38.6 million. The city is also spending another $59 million to rebuild a pedestrian bridge. "That will mean every major stadium and arena in New York City will be accessible by both subway and commuter railroad," said Mayor Bloomberg, who used the occasion to make another pitch for his congestion-pricing plan. The station is expected to accommodate 6,000 to 12,000 fans each game, according to Spitzer. _____________________ http://nymag.com/daily/intel/20070522metronorth.jpg nymag.com |
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the bronx is getting a really nice-lookin' stadium. kudos!!
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Is the old stadium being demolished??????????
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NOT quite demolished....although it will be converted into a minor league stadium. It will keep the same dimensions but the upper decks and the out field facade will be torn down. They want to keep the out field open so that they may be able to see the new stadium.
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As for a new Sox park, they should have done it in the late nineties when they had the chance. The foundations of Fenway are rotting, etc, but the current ownership is hell bent on keeping the same stadium, and just upgrading it forever, so a new Sox park won't happen for decades. |
i hadn't heard about the salvaging of yankees stadium. thats awesome news.
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re saw the pride of the Yankees the other night and from the clips saw what a stadium Yankee was..... totally NY back in the day in size and majesty... completely matched the city....... Not now though, although I think NY can pull off an 80,000 stad if any city can .... man those old pics of old yank stad lookd boss......... wish i could have been there.
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Also, with the current collective bargining agreement in the MLB the revenues from normal ticket sales are subject to being shared with other teams while revenues from luxury suites are not. Needless to say, the new stadium will have fewer seats and many more luxury boxes to protect its own revenues. The stadium will pay itself off rather quickly becuase of this. |
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NICE PIC.......people don't realize how close Yankee stadium is to Manhattan. I kinda wish the new stadium would be flipped and have the outfield near the river. I'm excited to see how this thing is gonna look. Between this and CITI FIELD....New Yorkers will have some quality stadiums to be proud of.
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Still, as awesome as a skyline view would be, there's just something special about a bunch of old tenements and the Bronx County Courthouse (sure beats the hell out of a U-Haul warehouse and the Whitestone Bridge ;) ). |
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The view is just something to compliment the location you are. You're not just at the game but you're in (insert city). The view can certainly add to it. I mean, Chicago and north Chicago at Wrigley are a point. You can't see much at fenway but it's undeniable things beyond the stadium play into the view with some fans in attendance (not that there is much). Elysian Fields plays as an awesome backdrop at Dodger Stadium (with Downtown viewable from the top of the stadium/behind home plate)...
But the ultra-urbanism with Pittsburgh and Detroit are just factors that add to everything. I dunno. It really shouldn't be a big deal but I love the act both skylines are viewable from the park. It adds to the ambiance. You feel like you are ON Fisherman's Wharf at ATT Ballpark in San Fran... and conversely - you feel like you are lost in a bland zone at Dolphin Stadium in Miami for the Marlins. |
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