YHZ = Halifax.

This is the third major crash (hull loss) at the airport in 14 years. One of the other ones was also a 747 cargo jet (no survivors). The other was an Air Canada passenger jet the other year that "landed" short of the runway. Since that plane ultimately ended up on the runway (after bouncing a few times), Air Canada euphemistically called that incident a "hard landing". :rolleyes:

Chinese logistics firm to build hub at EIA, boosting North America-China trade
Wednesday, November 14, 2018
EHL International Logistics Co. expansion bolsters EIA’s international trade hub status, spurring new jobs and export/import opportunities for Alberta businesses

(Edmonton, AB) – EHL International Logistics Co. and Edmonton International Airport (EIA) signed an agreement on Nov. 9, 2018 in Shanghai, China, making the airport EHL’s new North American logistics consolidation centre for goods, including e-commerce, moving between China and North America. The deal will generate many new jobs for the Edmonton Metro Region and significantly increase real-time access to global markets for small- and medium-size businesses across the region, Alberta and Canada.

EHL, a subsidiary of the Henan Provincial Government, will operate its North American flights from Zhengzhou, Henan to Edmonton, and continue to the US mainland. Trial 747-400 flights through Edmonton are already underway, in preparation for an expanded freighter schedule.

http://corporate.flyeia.com/news/chi...ca-china-trade

I was curious after your comment about this and crunched some numbers. Surprisingly YVR's top 10, though still smaller, stack up quite well to YYZ's top 10.

It's the breadth and depth of YYZs destinations that really propel it to the next level. While YVRs top 10 destinations account for 65% of its total longhaul seats, YYZs only account for 46%.

YYZ
https://i.imgur.com/wihzK2j.png

YVR
https://i.imgur.com/KH3YrxK.png

So as you can see YYZs largest long haul destinations are on the whole bigger than YVRs but on several cases, such as Hong Kong or Shanghai, YVRs has higher numbers.

What really surprised me from this is the low service levels from Toronto to several major Asian hubs. Tokyo, Taipei and Seoul in particular don't even crack the top 10 while being some of the most important airports in the world. Looks like a lot of opportunity there to me.

Ah interesting comparison LC! My two cents:

Per capita flights to London are equal
Vancouver’s second place flight is larger
And yes you’re right flights to Asia are larger from Vancouver

Not old. Put into service in 1997.

Corsair expanding service on seasonal ORY-YUL.

http://pagtour.info/corsair-elargit-...ontreal-paris/

Also, Qatar Airways is increasing DOH-YUL by 1x weekly, for a total of 4x weekly, as of December 2018.

https://ftnnews.com/aviation/35573-q...ha-to-montreal

AC Rouge changes since... the last update about 2 months ago...?

:tup:

Great to see this flight performing well.

I see YKA is getting a pretty major downgrade.

Speaking of Western Canadian airports, any chance we'll see YYZ-YQU or YYZ-YQL?

Does the YQL runway have the take off/landing capability to handle a jet from/to that distance?

CYQU has a 8,500ft runway, that certainly is long enough.
CYQL longest is around 6,500. I would say that would be near the limits, but could see an A319 operating there.

I thought they were only allowed 3 weekly for passengers and 1 weekly for cargo to Canada. Did I miss something?

Just to clarify, Viking Air's parent company did buy the Q400 program from Bombardier last week:

Longview Aviation Capital acquires Dash 8/Q400 programme from Bombardier

Canadian aircraft manufacturer Longview Aviation Capital Corp., parent company to Viking Air Ltd, has agreed to acquire, through an affiliate, the entire Dash 8 programme including the 100, 200 and 300 series and the in-production Q400 programme from Bombardier Inc..

https://www.adsadvance.co.uk/longvie...ombardier.html

I believe it was 3x weekly pax and 3x weekly cargo.

Qatar and Canada expanded their bilateral agreement earlier this year. They most likely got the rights for additional service.

Halifax (Halifax Stanfield International Airport) to be exact.

If we use YCD's runway as an example, 6,500 feet should be enough.

6,500ft certainly is long enough for medium jets to operate from, heck CYTZ and CYOO have business jets flying out with around 4,000ft of runway. However to fly to CYYZ or CYUL from B.C. I'd suspect a jet would need much longer. Hence suggesting 6,500ft would be at the limit for a passenger jet.

I get the comparison with CYCD's runway, but as far as I know there aren't scheduled flights to Pearson or Trudeau from there.

YCG’s runway is 5300 feet long and used to host 737s and the loud CP Air MDs back in the day. Perhaps the smallest version but still hosted jets for decades.

Air Canada Rouge is operating seasonal non-stop service from YCD to YYZ from June to October, 4x per week. They are using an Airbus A319, which requires 3000-5000' of runway at mean sea level under ideal conditions (dry/little wind) - depending on load - ie 5000' is with maximum load.. Interesting that a 787-8 requires a similar runway length (B787-8 / 4,400ft - 5,000ft - MLW).

Rule of thumb - IIRC - is that an aircraft requires ~7% more runway length for each 1000' (~300m) rise in elevation from mean sea level.

Airbus-Commercial-Aircraft-AC-A319-Feb18.pdf

Have a look at Chapter 3, around page 2-3. An empty A319 requires a minimum of 4000ft runway. Any significant payload will require a minimum of 6000ft.

There seems to be some confusion with my point. I'm not saying an A319 can't use a runway shorter than 6000ft, just it's unlikely for an airline to schedule into one if they want any meaningful passenger count for anything shorter.