Originally Posted by Johnny Aussie (Post 8047298)

I might add YVR also has the lowest “sun destination” international traffic per capita of any of the major cities in Canada. The flights I am referring to of course are those flights where Canadians flee the bitter cold temps in the winter. I’m not saying I blame them and I’m not saying Vancouverites don’t travel to warm sunny destinations but on a much lesser scale. Just look at the never-ending list of destinations for some cities and you get my drift. These make up a HUGE amount of international travel from other Canadian cities... those international numbers aren’t to just European or other global destinations.

Originally Posted by Johnny Aussie (Post 8047298)

YVR is the best globally connected city of its size in North America in fact better connected than many cities much much larger too.

Originally Posted by thenoflyzone (Post 8047364)

An international destination is an international destination.

Originally Posted by zahav (Post 8044462)

YUL-YYZ isn't even Air Canada's busiest route, by passenger traffic it is YYZ-YVR. While some days frequencies might be higher on YUL-YYZ, the aircraft used on YVR-YYZ is much larger and as a result, total pax numbers are higher

Originally Posted by jmt18325 (Post 8047398)

It shouldn't matter if it's in the US, either, then.

Originally Posted by SkahHigh (Post 8047413)

The route also has WestJet and Porter operating it... So pointing out to AC is useless. We’re talking about total daily pax numbers for a corridor, regardless the airline. YUL-YYZ is the busiest in Canada bar none.

Originally Posted by thenoflyzone (Post 8047355)

definition of diverse: showing a great deal of variety; very different.

YUL has non stop service to more destinations in more countries in more continents than YVR. So again, by definition, YUL has a more diverse list of destinations than YVR.

These are not my opinions. These are facts.

Originally Posted by mezzanine (Post 8047445)

Originally Posted by DrNest (Post 8047517)

That "Facts?" link takes you to an interesting article by OAG on Megahubs. It's criteria for connectivity includes domestic, and only flights within a 6 hour window. So doesn't give a full picture, nor does it take into account solely international destinations, which is what the argument between YUL and YVR appears to entail.

Originally Posted by mezzanine (Post 8047552)

What? wow, that's a really useless fanboi stat. my bad then...

Originally Posted by DrNest (Post 8047559)

So did you not actually read the article you posted when questioning thenoflyzone's "facts"?
I don't personally agree with OAG's assessment for connectivity to require a 6 hour window. For me I feel in you can fly into an airport from one destination, and depart the same airport to a different destination, be that with the same or different airlines, then there is connectivity.

Originally Posted by mezzanine (Post 8047580)

I got lost when it was decided that transborder isn't international. ;-)

Originally Posted by SkahHigh (Post 8047413)

The route also has WestJet and Porter operating it... So pointing out to AC is useless. We’re talking about total daily pax numbers for a corridor, regardless the airline. YUL-YYZ is the busiest in Canada bar none.

Originally Posted by TorontoDrew (Post 8047650)

No doubt Doug Ford will be a champion of big business over a better quality of living.

Originally Posted by zahav (Post 8047659)

I disagree. For much of the year (summer sched May-October), Westjet carries more pax between YVR and YYZ and than YYZ-YUL. The flights are majority 737-800, while Encore is now operating the majority of YYZ-YUL. I don't have the actual numbers from Westjet, but I think total pax traffic (not necessarily frequencies, since Encore can be more frequent and still have less pax than mainline) isn't that much more on YUL-YYZ. And I definitely don't think enough to offset the larger Air Canada numbers.

Also Porter doesn't operate from YYZ, so that doesn't count.

Originally Posted by GreaterMontréal (Post 8047686)

YUL to YYZ is the 15th busiest air route in the world. 3rd in North America, 480 weekly flights
https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Routes...9quent%C3%A9es

Originally Posted by Johnny Aussie (Post 8047724)

You’re kidding right? That info is from 2007.

The info I posted was dated 2017.

I’ll repost it again for clarity.

https://www.oag.com/hubfs/Free_Repor...Report2018.pdf

YYZ-YUL is not even in the top 20 in the world.

MEL-SYD, BNE-SYD and MEL-BNE are though.

Remember too this list is just about frequencies. If it was based on capacity, YYZ-YUL would be even further down the list as most of AC’s flights are on 140 seat 320s and all but one of Westjet’s flights are on DH4s.

Originally Posted by GreaterMontréal (Post 8047734)

227 flights with 3 carriers,
+

Porter Airlines up to 46 daily flights, compared to 28 flights currently. A departure will take place on this route every 40 minutes, from 6:20 in the morning to 22:00 in the evening.

in 2011, Sky Regional ,Air Canada Express, offering 93 flights a week (up to 15 flights a day) between Montreal and Toronto Island Airport

Originally Posted by zahav (Post 8047659)

I disagree. For much of the year (summer sched May-October), Westjet carries more pax between YVR and YYZ and than YYZ-YUL. The flights are majority 737-800, while Encore is now operating the majority of YYZ-YUL. I don't have the actual numbers from Westjet, but I think total pax traffic (not necessarily frequencies, since Encore can be more frequent and still have less pax than mainline) isn't that much more on YUL-YYZ. And I definitely don't think enough to offset the larger Air Canada numbers.

Also Porter doesn't operate from YYZ, so that doesn't count.