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"We [California] also have regulatory and environmental requirements that add significant costs to the cruise lines." More taxes, more regulation, more environmental requirements -- let's see if we can't chase every possible source of income away! Yay California!! Politically speaking, who would you say is to blame for California's economic/business-related policies? |
^Odd...I read the article and that distinctly wasn't all I needed to know.
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I have to agree with eburress. The economic outlook for the San Diego region does not look good. Remember 8 years ago on this forum when there was all the hope about a possible office tower boom downtown?? Well that never happened, all we got were hotels and residential towers.
I would love to see the office vacancy rates for the SD county employment centers. SAIC is shipping their big dogs to Northern VA. and there is just no reason for companies to locate here bottom line. Biotech and clean tech I don't think are going to be a big enough player to provide decent paying middle class jobs for the masses here. Yes unemployment is lower here then other parts of CA. but the vast majority of the jobs here do not pay a living wage. |
^I'm extra confused now. Where did I say that the economic climate looked good?
Given what eburess just said I don't think we disagree. I originally interpreted him as saying that environmental regulations were substantially to blame for cruise ships leaving SD out. If he isn't saying that then there isn't a disagreement. The article, and I cited most of the more relevant portions, makes it clear that that isn't true. There are a multitude of reasons why this is happening, all of them relevantly economic and only one tangentially mentioned one had anything to do with environmental regulations. I'm not sure what any of that has to do with commercial towers going up though. Yes it's another sign that the economic conditions aren't so great for many and that businesses, though doing fairly well, are still holding onto most of their assets instead of investing them. But aside from both being indicators of a sagging climate, how are cruise ships and office towers related? |
They aren't that was just a general rant on my part Phil. Sorry for the confusion. I agree with you that the environmental regs did not necessarily spell doom for the cruise industry in San Diego. Maybe e burress is just really frustrated in CA's overregulation in general especially compared to a business friendly state like Texas.
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L.A. is losing a number of cruise ships as well. Most of it has to do with the economy, particularly a significant drop in tourism to Mexico.
Hawaii's environmental regulations are much, much tougher (for obvious reasons). Norwegian ended up selling their ships rather than send them to a different port. Other cruise lines, though, stepped in to take over their market share. I doubt we'll see that here -- at least for a couple of years. But if tourism to Mexico increased, along with an improvement in the economy, we'd be one of the first ports to benefit. |
Anybody know if that Cougar Cruise is still running lol
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A lot of you might know that I work (for the time being) at UCSD. People there are all abuzz about Gov. Brown's $500 million dollar reduction in higher education funds for next year. UCSD's personal hit is in the neighborhood of $60 million. These are hard times and CA public universities (UC and CSU) and community colleges have had their budgets cut several years in a row now. To me stuff like this is far worse than cruise ships. Cruise ships can always be enticed back relatively quickly but it takes a long time to built up an educated workforce. |
Phil: I have noticed tons of new construction on the UCSD campus and more across the 5 by the Scripps Medical facilities. Is it possible for you to put together a little compilation of what has been built in the last couple years and what is UC? I like those new dorms on the North end of campus and some of the new buildings more to the south on Torrey Pines Rd. are excellent too.
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I had plenty of pictures on my old phone but it went the way of the dodo.
Phil, where exactly do you work? |
Also last time posted random pictures of San Diego Mello said they weren't interesting. :(
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CCDC has updated the Kettner and Ash Bosa project with a new picture. Anyone know what is going on with this project? What do you think of the new design?
http://www.ccdc.com/projects/major-d...ner-a-ash.html |
Its cute. I like the roof design. Very Miami.
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Transform? Meh. It'll put a band-aid on San Diego's airport problem for a few years, but definitely won't help the city in the long run.
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