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Trae Apr 6, 2008 8:29 PM

HOUSTON | Bank of the Southwest Tower | 1,404 FT / 428 M | 82 FLOORS | NEVER BUILT
 
Bank of the Southwest Tower

http://i166.photobucket.com/albums/u...dings/bosw.jpg

This was actually a serious proposal until about 1990. Didn't go through because of the oil bust. Sad.

Height concerns:
http://i177.photobucket.com/albums/w...ans/FAASWC.jpg

It was going to be an all-office tower. I think the basic design is being used for a tower going up in Dubai.

ethereal_reality Apr 6, 2008 8:35 PM

...was this the tower designed by Helmut Jahn?

Ayreonaut Apr 6, 2008 9:20 PM

It's a nice tower, but I don't have to say that it looks like several others.

Patrick Apr 6, 2008 10:05 PM

What a loss!

MiamiSpartan Apr 6, 2008 10:51 PM

This is my favorite building that was never built. It would have looked amazing in downtown Houston!

JManc Apr 6, 2008 11:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ayreonaut (Post 3466634)
It's a nice tower, but I don't have to say that it looks like several others.

actually, the 'several others' were based on this proposal.

Wattleigh Apr 7, 2008 12:07 AM

79th Floor, 360 degree observation deck.

That alone makes me wish this was built.

Ayreonaut Apr 7, 2008 1:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JMancuso (Post 3466888)
actually, the 'several others' were based on this proposal.

In that case, it's a shame it was never built.

Trae Apr 7, 2008 1:56 AM

Damn oil bust. Wish the oil boom could have lasted an extra three years or so, and this tower would have happened here in Houston.

Great_Hizzy Apr 7, 2008 4:35 AM

Longterm it would've been a nice addition but in the short and mid terms it would've made the mid to late 80s bust even worse for the office market--even if it had shifted to become the late 80s/early 90s bust.

Xeelee Apr 7, 2008 2:33 PM

There is another one out there with a restaurant inside a dome at the very top. I used to have a rendering of it and it is in a book about that skyscraper competition. Anyone have it?

FrancoRey Apr 7, 2008 5:44 PM

Oh well. Such is the way of economic cycles. Denver lost it's fair share of office towers in the 80's to the oil bust as well. Here is my fav lost tower: Reliance Center http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showthread.php?t=148924

OhioGuy Apr 11, 2008 8:45 PM

Wow, this would have been an amazing building in Houston. I really like the look of it. I think they style of it would have fit in perfectly in the downtown core. Too bad.

Xeelee Apr 11, 2008 9:34 PM

Here is another I found online somewhere:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...lee/banksw.gif

Wattleigh Apr 11, 2008 10:39 PM

I think that was KPF's submission into the design competition.

Where did you find it?

volguus zildrohar Apr 11, 2008 10:57 PM

Hey, it lived on. Helmut Jahn recycles.


Rail Claimore Apr 11, 2008 11:33 PM

Houston's been screwed by the FAA more than once. Chase (then Texas Commerce Tower) was supposed to be over 1100 ft tall, but the feds made them chop off a few stories because of Hobby.

Von Apr 20, 2008 6:57 PM

ugh I hate Hobby Airpot...errrr

Trae Apr 20, 2008 9:37 PM

Now, it is said that the original Chase Tower height (over 1100 feet) would not be too tall for planes going into Hobby. Just how it was in the 80's.

Jibba Apr 21, 2008 3:09 AM

Not really a shame that this was never realized; it's a little too cheesy I think. Houston's current tallest is leagues better than this.

Derek Apr 21, 2008 4:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 3466562)
...was this the tower designed by Helmut Jahn?

That was my exact first thought.

Xeelee Apr 21, 2008 1:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jibba (Post 3498674)
Not really a shame that this was never realized; it's a little too cheesy I think. Houston's current tallest is leagues better than this.

Yes, I am proud to say that we have the tallest 5-sided building. :)

Stratosphere Apr 22, 2008 12:35 AM

How one can say that Chase is a better looking building is beyond me. :rolleyes: Look at Chase in the background. Boring.

Bank of the Southwest Tower is art! :yes:


Big scan from a book
http://i166.photobucket.com/albums/u...dings/bosw.jpg

Xeelee Apr 22, 2008 1:40 PM

Hey Stratosphere, if this is the same book I think it is could you please scan the other entry for this competition? The one with the dome please. Thanks. :)

M II A II R II K Apr 22, 2008 2:01 PM

The design looks like it would be a good addition somewhere.

Xeelee Apr 22, 2008 3:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by M II A II R II K (Post 3501811)
The design looks like it would be a good addition somewhere.

I *think* there was a proposal for a tower in the Middle East that looked exactly like this...

Stratosphere Apr 22, 2008 5:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Xeelee (Post 3501775)
Hey Stratosphere, if this is the same book I think it is could you please scan the other entry for this competition? The one with the dome please. Thanks. :)

That pic is from the book called Skyscrapers: Higher and Higher by Caroline Mierop, and that's the only proposal it shows in the part that talks about the Bank of the Southwest Tower.

Xeelee Apr 22, 2008 6:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stratosphere (Post 3502379)
That pic is from the book called Skyscrapers: Higher and Higher by Caroline Mierop, and that's the only proposal it shows in the part that talks about the Bank of the Southwest Tower.

Argh. Different book. Thanks for scanning. :)

plinko Apr 25, 2008 6:49 PM

This was Skidmore, Owings & Merrill's entry, designed by Richard Keating (1,370')

images scanned from The Master Architect Series II: Richard Keating

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...ting/BSW01.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...ting/BSW02.jpg

Xeelee Apr 25, 2008 8:20 PM

YES! THAT'S IT!!! Thanks! :)

photoLith Dec 22, 2008 12:29 AM

Now that looks awesome. It would have made houstons downtown skyline incredible! Not that it isnt incredible but it would have been loads better with that.

scalziand Mar 16, 2010 8:21 PM

Neat structural diagram.
http://img687.imageshack.us/img687/4240/bswg.jpg
Structural Design & Analysis of Tall Buildings Taranath(1988)

I wish had access to the rendering here(http://libx.bsu.edu/BSU%5FArchSlides...U/2967-011.jpg) but it requires a bsu logon.:(

JDRCRASH Mar 21, 2010 11:46 PM

This should've been built.:(

Urbannizer Jan 17, 2011 4:44 AM

Here was KPF's design for the tower:

http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/m...Towers-1-2.jpg

photoLith Jan 17, 2011 4:56 AM

^
Eeew, thats pretty damned terrible looking.

KevinFromTexas Jan 17, 2011 5:59 AM

I don't know. I think I like that design better than the one with the hole in it. Plus, that other design would have been to close to Reliant Energy's tower.

Tumbleweed_Tx Jan 24, 2011 10:06 PM

^^ yes, but, Reliant's tower was a box in the 70's and 80's.

The top was added in the 90's after Reliant's parent company bought the tower and rebuilt it.

(I always liked the atrium, and was disappointed to see it go)

Urbannizer Jul 15, 2011 1:43 AM

Six, additional design proposals for the Bank of the Southwest Tower! By Helmut Jahn.

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4113/...30f7b5e0_b.jpg

Link

SkyscrapersOfNewYork Jul 15, 2011 1:52 AM

i like the design farthest to the right,it has a certain blade runner design that works for me.

QuarterMileSidewalk Jul 16, 2011 4:41 AM

Wow! most of those designs look progressive even compared to modern stuff!

Dylan Leblanc Jul 21, 2011 6:37 AM

reminds me of the dozens of designs we see for proposed Chinese supertalls

BrandonJXN Jul 22, 2011 6:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by QuarterMileSidewalk (Post 5348904)
Wow! most of those designs look progressive even compared to modern stuff!

The one second from right reminds me of the Al Hamra Tower in Kuwait. Talk about ahead of it's time.

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5217/...65476859_b.jpg
Flickr: Thamerium
http://www.flickr.com/photos/thameri...n/photostream/

DCReid Jun 15, 2012 10:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ()_T (Post 5128649)
Here was KPF's design for the tower:

http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/m...Towers-1-2.jpg

That design appears to have been used for the 311 South Wacker skyscraper in Chicago, also designed by KPF: http://skyscraperpage.com/diagrams/?buildingID=33

DCReid Jun 15, 2012 10:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by volguus zildrohar (Post 3479147)
Hey, it lived on. Helmut Jahn recycles.



Recycled a third time in Chicago as Two Prudential Plaza. http://skyscraperpage.com/diagrams/?buildingID=32

Interesting it is the tallest of the three but less of an impact on Chicago's skyline because of the other tall Chicago buildings and its location.

gramsjdg Jun 17, 2012 7:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DCReid (Post 5735821)
That design appears to have been used for the 311 South Wacker skyscraper in Chicago, also designed by KPF: http://skyscraperpage.com/diagrams/?buildingID=33

I love this design :yes:

Urbannizer Apr 17, 2013 3:33 AM

Another rendering of the BSW tower:

http://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/010...RINT_large.jpg

plinko Oct 31, 2013 4:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KevinFromTexas (Post 5128702)
I don't know. I think I like that design better than the one with the hole in it. Plus, that other design would have been to close to Reliant Energy's tower.

Kevin, the renovation to Reliant (added 120ft+) was actually designed by Keating. Must have liked the hole idea so much he decided to try it out there.

BrandonJXN Nov 12, 2013 7:43 PM

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4133/...0b20034d_b.jpg
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4133/...0b20034d_b.jpg

ChiTownWonder Jan 7, 2015 11:19 PM

that sucks. Would have been my favorite in the city if it was built:(


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