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Calfan12 Dec 7, 2022 9:57 AM

Also Lynx Air frequency adjustments on Calgary YYC - Las Vegas LAS & Los Angeles LAX,US routes Summer 2023.

LYNX AIR NS23 US FREQUENCY ADJUSTMENT – 05DEC22
Canadian ultra-low-cost carrier Lynx Air in Northern summer 2023 season is adjusting operational frequencies on selected service between Calgary and US. Planned frequency adjustment as follows.

Calgary – Las Vegas 11APR23 – 03JUN23 Increase from 4 to 7 weekly (4 weekly from 04JUN23)
Calgary – Los Angeles Increase from 3 weekly to following
16APR23 – 30APR23 4 weekly
01MAY23 – 05JUN23 6 weekly
eff 06JUN23 5 weekly

The airline’s reservation is available until 31AUG23 inclusive as of early-December 2022.

https://www.aeroroutes.com/eng/221207-y9ns23us

whatnext Dec 7, 2022 2:40 PM

I was boarding an AC flight at YYZ the same time a Lynx flight was also boarding to YVR. The AC flight was packed to the gills, the Lynx one looked pretty empty.

thenoflyzone Dec 7, 2022 3:30 PM

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Originally Posted by zahav (Post 9808985)

Has AC always operated YYZ-HND and YYZ-NRT with only 20 mins apart? Looks like NRT departs at 13:05 and HND at 13:25. I bet there will be some confusion there with pax maybe not realizing which airport in Tokyo they are going to (airline nerds know HND vs. NRT but a lot of people might not). Having them depart basically at the same time is kind of strange?

That's pretty much why they scan boarding passes and check your passport right before boarding the plane. To make sure you're getting on the right aircraft.

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Originally Posted by whatnext (Post 9809102)
I was boarding an AC flight at YYZ the same time a Lynx flight was also boarding to YVR. The AC flight was packed to the gills, the Lynx one looked pretty empty.

Not surprising.

Coldrsx Dec 7, 2022 3:30 PM

The end of an era for the Queen of the Skies.

My father was at Pearson when the first AC 747 arrived in 1971 (he was a meteorologist for YYZ for a few years).

Sad to see this run come to an end.

https://www.aircargonews.net/wp-cont...ing-scaled.jpg
https://www.aircargonews.net/airline...erett-factory/

thewave46 Dec 7, 2022 4:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Coldrsx (Post 9809154)
The end of an era for the Queen of the Skies.

My father was at Pearson when the first AC 747 arrived in 1971 (he was a meteorologist for YYZ for a few years).

Sad to see this run come to an end.

The first time I went to Pearson Airport as a kid, I got out of the car in the parking lot and a 747 passed overhead on takeoff. What an awesome sight and sound.

Fortunately, we'll be seeing them often still, as there are many freighters in service. However, only a handful of airlines still operate passenger flights on 747s these days. Korean, Air China, and Lufthansa are the major ones left. Book one while you can.

Queen of the Skies, indeed.

Airboy Dec 7, 2022 4:57 PM

First flew on one to Hawaii on Ward Air. May have only been on one 5-6 times.

MonctonRad Dec 7, 2022 4:59 PM

I saw my first 747 at the airport in Bermuda in 1972. I still remember it as clearly as if it was yesterday. A special plane indeed.

Coldrsx Dec 7, 2022 5:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Airboy (Post 9809287)
First flew on one to Hawaii on Ward Air. May have only been on one 5-6 times.

From shaky recollection:

747-200 (?) - Wardair

747-400 - Canadian - sat in 'the nose' to LHR

747-400 - Air Canada

casper Dec 7, 2022 5:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Airboy (Post 9809287)
First flew on one to Hawaii on Ward Air. May have only been on one 5-6 times.

My first time was Air Canada between Vancouver and Toronto. That said I have also been on Air Canada 747 into Heathrow when they had it on the Calgary-Heathrow route.

I have also been on EVA, British Airways and Lufthansa 747s.

Now all retired.

Dominion301 Dec 7, 2022 6:17 PM

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Originally Posted by nname (Post 9808447)
AC now learn to announce first before schedule update and open the new service for reservation so they can be the first to break the news. The schedule also does not have most of the changes yet (especially new route), so I'll expect them to update the schedule tonight, at 1am EST.

And the fact that they didn't make announce of the cut most likely means the cuts are permanent. Seems like they only make announcement for temporary suspension and intended to return at a later date, as they made two (!!) announcements for the YVR-DEL suspension.

Airlines rarely announce suspensions except in exceptional circumstances, such as YVR-DEL given the inability to overfly Russia rendering the flight uneconomical on the detour or during COVID-19.

Only YEG-YOW (I guess we know where that 4th daily YEG-YUL is coming from) is the only mainline cut between YYC & YOW as far as I can tell. This points to most, if not all of these being temporary due to the severe staffing shortages at Jazz, especially with pilots. Better to fund the flying at your hubs than focus cities (YYC is essentially now a very large focus city for AC than a true hub) than focus city nonstop city pairs. I would be surprised if YEG-YOW isn't back for summer 2024 once a few more 220s are on property.

It's no coincidence that out of YOW that AC kept YQB where AC practically have a monopoly on the route and command high yields while suspending the likes of YQM that are still served by PAL & PD.

The amount AC are pouring into YUL is pretty incredible. Will not be surprised to see YUL surpass 2019's pax totals in 2023. YOW on the other hand will be lucky to get back to 75% of 2019.

whatnext Dec 7, 2022 6:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Coldrsx (Post 9809154)
The end of an era for the Queen of the Skies.

My father was at Pearson when the first AC 747 arrived in 1971 (he was a meteorologist for YYZ for a few years).

Sad to see this run come to an end.

https://www.aircargonews.net/airline...erett-factory/

Yes, that a bit heartbreaking. The hub and spoke model that favoured large aircraft is dying in favour of the far more wasteful direct flights from everywhere paradigm. Sad that we've gone from 747s to Hawaii to 737s.:yuck:

My most memorable 747 flight was LHR to YVR on one one the first flights back to Canada after being stuck in the UK after 9/11. Up top no less. One of the hybrid livery Canadian/Air Canada birds. Wish I had taken more pictures.

hehehe Dec 7, 2022 7:37 PM

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Originally Posted by whatnext (Post 9809459)
Yes, that a bit heartbreaking. The hub and spoke model that favoured large aircraft is dying in favour of the far more wasteful direct flights from everywhere paradigm. Sad that we've gone from 747s to Hawaii to 737s.:yuck:

My most memorable 747 flight was LHR to YVR on one one the first flights back to Canada after being stuck in the UK after 9/11. Up top no less. One of the hybrid livery Canadian/Air Canada birds. Wish I had taken more pictures.

Yeah it sort of sucks but it's nice to have a lot more option when choosing more convenient flights that fit your schedule.

Dominion301 Dec 7, 2022 9:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Airboy (Post 9809287)
First flew on one to Hawaii on Ward Air. May have only been on one 5-6 times.

Only three times for me:

AC (don't know if it was a 741, 742 or 74M [i.e., 747-200 combi]) as I was a young boy in the mid-80s YMX-CDG & CDG-YMX

Air Pacific (today's Fiji Airways) 744 NAN-LAX - theirs were ex-SQ birds with very early PTVs from circa 2000.

Alexcaban Dec 7, 2022 10:19 PM

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Originally Posted by zahav (Post 9808985)
AC didn't mention some routes that were already mentioned on here days ago as having increases (ie. YVR-YHZ going 13x weekly). I wonder if this means they are going to adjust that schedule and remove something? Or just they didn't mention all increases?

Has AC always operated YYZ-HND and YYZ-NRT with only 20 mins apart? Looks like NRT departs at 13:05 and HND at 13:25. I bet there will be some confusion there with pax maybe not realizing which airport in Tokyo they are going to (airline nerds know HND vs. NRT but a lot of people might not). Having them depart basically at the same time is kind of strange?

NRT if I remember correctly was an AM departure. 10am or 11am something like that.

Alexcaban Dec 7, 2022 10:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Dominion301 (Post 9809410)
The amount AC are pouring into YUL is pretty incredible. Will not be surprised to see YUL surpass 2019's pax totals in 2023. YOW on the other hand will be lucky to get back to 75% of 2019.

Another example of this YYZ-YMM pre-COVID daily.

Now it will return as 4x weekly and they shoot over the other 3x weekly to YUL.

Will be interesting to see the outbound connections on that flight.

nname Dec 7, 2022 10:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Alexcaban (Post 9809669)
Another example of this YYZ-YMM pre-COVID daily.

Now it will return as 4x weekly and they shoot over the other 3x weekly to YUL.

Will be interesting to see the outbound connections on that flight.

What AC didn't say was that the YMM flight actually come from the reduction of YYT and YLW. So the new YUL-YMM is from the reallocation of service and do not have any relationship with the YYZ flight (except they combined to be 7x weekly, but some days will have 2 flights and some other days will have none)

The operating days of the flights are weird though:
YUL-YMM on days 234
YUL-YLW on days 567

Not sure if there's a specific reason with this setup... wouldn't it be better if one route runs on 246 and the other 357?

Alexcaban Dec 7, 2022 10:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nname (Post 9809681)
What AC didn't say was that the YMM flight actually come from the reduction of YYT and YLW. So the new YUL-YMM is from the reallocation of service and do not have any relationship with the YYZ flight (except they combined to be 7x weekly, but some days will have 2 flights and some other days will have none)

The operating days of the flights are weird though:
YUL-YMM on days 234
YUL-YLW on days 567

Not sure if there's a specific reason with this setup... wouldn't it be better if one route runs on 246 and the other 357?

Interesting, wouldn't it better to feed your hubs with a daily out east.

thenoflyzone Dec 8, 2022 12:46 AM

So Sunwing was supposed to hire over 60 temporary foreign workers in the form of European pilots this winter season, like they usually do every winter. Except this time, their request got denied by TC. They are now scrambling to hire additional lift for the upcoming season. I hear Canada Jetlines will do some flying for them. Most likely others as well.

JakeLRS Dec 8, 2022 2:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thenoflyzone (Post 9809767)
So Sunwing was supposed to hire over 60 temporary foreign workers in the form of European pilots this winter season, like they usually do every winter. Except this time, their request got denied by TC. They are now scrambling to hire additional lift for the upcoming season. I hear Canada Jetlines will do some flying for them. Most likely others as well.

I bet Canada Jetlines is super happy about this one. The pax on their flights are dog water

nname Dec 8, 2022 4:53 AM

Looks like AC will once again suspend YYZ-HKG through S23.

No wonder it wasn't mentioned in the previous long-hual change PR...


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