Setai

Never heard of them. I'll do some research.

Thank you though. :)

i heard carlsbad rejected the desalination plant, is this true?

How smart of them. :)


Seriously, people are stupid.

7th & Market
 

New renderings for the 7th & Market mixed-use project...
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y28...PlanItem51.jpg
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y28...ePlanItem5.jpg
um...it brings height to the area...and um...I don't know. I guess I like it. It's definitely unique.


I don't know if it's the CCDC website or my internet, but I can't read the PDF's for the redesigned Cosmopolitan Square, which looks like is gonna happen after all (Thank God!). But from the looks of it, a hotel will be incorporated w/ about 211 rooms and the number of condos is gonna be reduced from 290 to 113 or somethin like that. Everything else about the project is basically the same except slightly more commercial space was added (office & retail).

Nice. :yes:

According to CCDC, Strata has also officially started construction.

If money was not an object... heck, I'd agree with you.

Good point.:P

This is really quite amazing. I love the way the building meets the street in the first picture. Looks like the retail on that side goes several stories up? Am I right about that (just by looking at it)...?

I believe this was discussed on skyscrapercity.com waaaay back when they unveiled renderings. I'll dig up a link if I can find one.

RE: 7th & Market. The thing looks gigantic! The lot that it's proposed on doesn't look big enough for this project.

^^^ It's a nice looking building. Anyone know which side faces Market and the other side Island? I suspect the side with the bulbed street corners is Island.

Also, how realistic is the amount of greenery on rooftop levels? And all those trees seems optomistic.

I would think so.

The $300 million project -- contained on a single block -- will have 42 stories of market rate and affordable housing, hotel, retail, street-front commercial and cultural space and a police storefront. The developers will build a 650-vehicle public parking garage that will be owned and operated by CCDC and the Redevelopment Agency.

Affordable housing units will be dispersed throughout the tower. Three levels of private underground parking will serve residents and tenants. Above, six levels of public parking will be enveloped and masked by the residences.

OK, now you're talking! What an improvement over the initial design...especially with that top part! Finally there's something to be excited about.

A CCDC pre-design subcommittee will review a couple projects on the 6th. One is Kettner & Ash.... just north of Saphire and east and across the tracks from Bayside. It looks nice.

Kettner & Ash
http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n...tnerandAsh.jpg

I believe that's another Bosa development, right?

Where is everyone getting all these new renderings from? CCDC?

I suspect the other one came from where I got the above... go to the agenda for CCAC - Pre-Design Subcommittee Mtg and click on a link for the project you're interested in.

http://www.ccdc.com/index.cfm/fuseac...nt/eventID/834

Btw, I wish there was a plan to replace the Holiday Inn hotel towers along the embarcadero... between Harbor and Pacific Highway... north of Broadway and south of Ash. They have a semi decent blueish paint job that kinda masks their ugliness and out-of-dateness..., but I see right through it an cringe. They are an embarrassment to the downtown San Diego waterfront; our front porch.

I'm back! ;)

Hmmmm....I couldn't have said it better myself. It's a bit on the "busy" side for me, but it's not bad looking. The street level design looks good. I definitely prefer the glass/upper tower on the new design over the old one below:

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y12...ene_3large.jpg

At one time, the hotels at Lane Field were suppose to be JW Marriott and Ritz-Carlton but has since become InterContinental and a new high-end Woodfin Hotel brand called Aviana (It's suppose to be in between a 4 Star and 5 Star Hotel). Here's some info on Lane Field from the C.W. Clark website.

The Setai San Diego website seems to still be under construction, but it's been announced that it will have a Forty Deuce nightclub and a newly created steakhouse brand restaurant by Maxim Magazine called Maxim Prime - so sexy!

There's no question that Kettner & Ash is another Bosa project. It looks nice enough, but I sure hope it doesn't look too much like their Bayside tower across the street.

Nice!

Kettner & Ash looks a little thick (very much unlike Sapphire) but is otherwise quite nice. That part of downtown is going to be so impressive once all those buildings go up.

I am so with you on this one. They are on one of the prime locations in San Diego and are absolutely hideous.

Kettner & Ash
http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n...tnerandAsh.jpg[/QUOTE]
I just don't know about this one...it's so typical Bosa, it just makes me kind of sick. The design review panel called this crap unique..."UNIQUE"???? Are they crazy?! Are they not seeing the same typical Bosa tower that looks nearly identical to Bayside, and Electra, not to mention the STRONG resemblance to the newly planned ones, like the one where the KUSI Mixed-use was suppose to be, or at Highway & E???

Couldnt agree with you more, sd_urban.


Yea, i highly doubt all that greenery will happen. The renderings showed that the Legend was suppose to have a lot more greenery, and the rooftop terrace was suppose to have these nice, full trees, but they were replaced by these thin, measley lookin Palms.


Yes, these towers definitely need to be imploded. Something REAL nice can definitely go there in the near future.

The site is owned by a large hotel REIT, FELCOR HOTEL ASSET COMPANY (www.felcor.com) and it probably makes a good amount of money as is. I wish that they would paint it at least. The pink and blue color scheme is a little dated.

Hey there I dont post much but am check up on the forum daily to get my fix of downtown development. I live in the Icon and I feel like I have this great opportunity to see a neighborhood come alive. All we need are som more retail opportunities and the area will be great. Also they seriously need to get this Harbor Drive pedestrian bridge started. I want to be able to go to the new bayfront park by the Hilton once it is completed. So anything new on the rumor of a Trader Joe's going into the bottom floor of the TR Produce building?

Whoa, I must have missed this info. I have always wondered what they would do to the area around the new Hilton to make it attractive.

Has there been anything official posted about this bayfront park?

This is just my opinion, but I'm sure in the future (15-20 years at most), that the industrial area southeast of the Hilton site will be bought out or something and converted into more highrise development and hopefully some nice waterfront parks.


Now all we need is a 40/40 Club. ;)

yayyy!!!!!! I have been hoping they would get rid of those hideous things for a long time!!

I would LOVE a trader joes in there! But, the rumor I heard was that it's going to be some high-end market that is going to be a pilot project of - believe it or not - wal mart (a wal mart attempt to get into the botique grocer market)??

If anyone has info on the TR produce ground level market, please let us know ;)

7th and Market, my two cents

Overall, like it. It will defniately bring density into that area, the south side of Market is really starting to fill-out, but it is starting to look one-sided if you look down Market facing west because all the towers are on the south side :)

The one complaint would be that it looks kind of busy. I really like the glass top of the tower, it look smuch better than in the old renderings

Any word on the timeline of this one getting off the ground?

It would look REALLY good if Cosmo was to go up right behind it ;) I have not given up hope for Cosmo Square, I have a feeling it might actually come through after all

That would be nice, but I have my doubts that that is a possibility. That land is under control of the Port District. And their mission is to maintain the 'working' port. Remember that they object to the hotel towers planned by the Padre owner ont he south side of Imperial between Park Blvd and 11th Avenue... over lookign the rail yards and the Dole facility? They objected because of the increased pressure it would bring on them to convert to otehr uses.

So hopefully they will fold under pressure. ;)

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y28...PlanItem51.jpg

Stunning!!!

I've mentioned this one before here, and I've been hoping it would gain traction.

I think I need to see another rendering of Kettner and Ash before I make a decision as to whether or not I like it.

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y12...tnernight2.jpg

This is an old rendering. Unfortunately as we have found, renderings are often wishful thinking; especially early renderings of this sort.

Check out the ccdc post about the hotel there is to be a large park going along the bay connecting witht the embarcadero south park behind the convention center.

not to say it doesn't look good, but enough GLASS over there in that part of town! (it will look nice though, I think). it makes me kind of glad irvine co. is building a plain old travertine building.

I don't think Kettner and Ash looks too bad.

Just got off the phone with Setai in South Beach. That is the only other location that there is a hotel branded as a "Setai" they are part of GHM hotels which has 15 locations mostly in South East Asia! Kinda cool

I think it should bring a very interesting flair to downtown SD.

THE BEST THING : She said that it is definitely a 5 star hotel at least the Miami Beach location. She said she didn't know if the San Diego location was going to be as luxurious and be dubbed a 5 star...

Lets keep our fingers crossed and hope it is because then downtown SD will have 2 --- 5 star hotels. Ivy and Setai. Throw in the Grande Del Mar in Carmel Valley and SD County will have 5 --- five stars. Not bad.

Here is the website: www.ghmhotels.com:cheers:

Now if we get a Four Seasons, Shangri La, Ritz Carlton, or Mandarin Oriental downtown we will be ballin fo sho :yes:

Here is the Setai in Miami Beach: 37 floors CONDO HOTEL http://images.unitedstates.biz/hotel...00/054271A.jpg

lane field
 

These are some renderings of Lane Field I pulled off the port's latest addendum to the North Embarcadero environmental study. I think these are new, they have October 2007 dates.

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2140/...3c8d93.jpg?v=0

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2358/...301a4c.jpg?v=0

The hotel on the south is Intercontinental, the north is called Vivara.

There is also one in NYC, think it's new as well -
photo below is rendering of their roof terrace

http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/...break_span.jpg

God...the Lane Field buildings look dated and they haven't even been built yet.

The Lane Field buildings look so...what's the word I'm looking for?

Oh yeah, they look bad.

The Lane Field buildings don't look good. The combination of them, NBC, and 700 West Broadway makes me pessimistic about the future of our great city's skyline. Too boxy and little to no variation of height, especially on the waterfront.

^Yeah, 700W Broadway doesn't please me at all in the rendering. I feel bad for OAP.

A freakin insult... What the hell happened to the sails that were suppose to go on top? That's the only thing that really made these towers stand out! And now they're just going to be big, BLOCKY Boxes! :hell:

Look at the top rendering... Look at all those flat top buildings and lack of articulation. So sad. And those new hotels are so short and fat... Continuing the trend of blocking view corridors....

Funny this picture doesn't show the 'fabulous' new cruise ship terminal on the Broadway Pier. Anyone been by that lately... I love those beautiful plastic orange terror barriers and that super classy chain link fence. Not to mention the awesome hardscape.

The Port does such a classy job. It also will be so nice to have all those buses and taxi cabs driving all over the new North Embarcadero improvements. Can't wait.

Grow up San Diego.