SAN FRANCISCO BAY AREA: Transit/Transportation News
Creation of a regional or city transit thread here seems to be what others are doing and there are some transit developments in the Bay Area that people may want to know about and discuss but aren't worthy of a separate thread so I hope this will be useful.
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Look out Seattle!
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Why Redwood City to San Francisco and not Oakland?
Caltrain does a good job getting up the Peninsula, but it's a pain to get from Redwood City/Palo Alto to Oakland and Berkeley. |
great. we needed this thread in the main transportation forum. thanks bt.
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I guess new ridership statistics count as news...
Note: No data given for Alameda County Transit, which would vie with VTA for third, IMO. All data from APTA: http://www.apta.com/resources/statis...rship_APTA.pdf Agency - Average Weekday Ridership San Francisco Muni - 805,600 Bay Area Rapid Transit - 354,800 Santa Clara VTA - 143,600 SamTrans - 48,200 Caltrain - 40,300 Golden Gate Transit - 29,600 Eastern Contra Costa TA- 8,700 Livermore/Amador Valley TA - 6,200 Capitol Corridor (shared with Sacramento) - 5,000 |
I see you're including all modes together.
Central Contra Costa TA: 14,800... I believe that is bus only. |
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KRON 4 reporter Mark Jones reported on the 6pm show this evening that BART moved 88,000 passengers out of downtown San Francisco within one hour after the New Year's Eve fireworks show. That's twice as fast as moving a slightly smaller crowd last year. They did it by splitting passengers up, according to final destination, between Embarcadero and Montgomery stations. BART officials intend to do this next NYE, as well as other big event nights including the 4th of July. They also beefed up the police presence 50%, and there was not a single arrest.
I'd say BART deserves some credit for keeping it together this time. |
Splitting those stations is a great idea. Boarding must have been much faster without people standing around waiting for a different train, not to mention one less stop for Richmond/Bay Point trains.
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AC Transit reports its weekday ridership for 2Q 2009 is 236,000, so I'll update the list:
Agency - Average Weekday Ridership San Francisco Muni - 805,600 Bay Area Rapid Transit - 354,800 Alameda Contra Costa Transit - 236,000 Santa Clara VTA - 143,600 SamTrans - 48,200 Caltrain - 40,300 Golden Gate Transit - 29,600 Eastern Contra Costa TA- 8,700 Livermore/Amador Valley TA - 6,200 Capitol Corridor (shared with Sacramento) - 5,000 Not bad! |
heres a interesting article regarding the soon to be built transbay terminal
http://www.thetransportpolitic.com/2...sbay-terminal/ |
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One thing beyond BART's control was a major outage of the ATM/Debit/Credit systems on NYE, which made paying for tickets very difficult, if not impossible for those of us who didn't have enough cash for our tickets and intended to use plastic to pay for fares... For the record, I had gotten to Emeryville on NYE, took BART to San Francisco from the Ashby Station in Berkeley... Only found out later that it would have probably been easier to just travel to and from the Macarthur Station, but oh well... ;) Aaron (Glowrock) |
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Agency - Average Weeday Unlinked Rail Trips BART - 354,800 Muni - 186,200 Caltrain - 40,300 VTA - 33,200 Capitol Corridor - 5,000 ACE - 3,700 San Joaquins- 2,600 Let's give only half the ridership to the Bay Area for intercity railroads--it's just easier that way. Capitol Corridor is a Bay Area/Sacramento intercity railroad, and the San Joaqins are the Bay Area/Stockton intercity. I would award all the ACE ridership to the Bay Area since it leaves the Bay Area but doesn't really hit any sizeable urbanized area. My only issue here is the lack of any verifiable ridership info--this stat comes from Wikipedia, but I can't verify it independently. The broken link was to an APTA Q3 2008 document. Since ridership on the nearby San Joaquins fell 20.56% in one recessionary year, it seems only reasonable to chop 20% off the top of this older ACE stat as well. All told, that yields roughly 621,260 by rail on a regular workday in the Bay Area. |
I should note I was unable to find any statistics on SFO's Airtrain. It's a six-mile long system with two lines operating 24-7, but no ridership data anywhere I can find.
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So how's SMART coming along? When will construction finally begin? Any plans for transit oriented development in the vicinity of stations?
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i have to say i like the ideas yonah (the author) brings up. what do u guys think? can we build something like this within our lifetimes? or is this a pipe dream? |
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His two best ideas: *Conventional, off-the-shelf heavy rail for the Geary corridor through downtown and over to Transbay, with downtown transfers to Muni and BART subways. Cheaper than BART's proprietary stuff, more capacity than light rail for Muni's busiest (non-downtown) transit corridor. *A second transbay tunnel with standard-gauge rail to Alameda/Oakland. It would not only help redevelop the old naval base, but it might also allow for regular Amtrak service into the City via Oakland. Perhaps even HSR could roll through that tunnel on dedicated tracks if necessary--Penninsula NIMBYs seem determined, as usual, to keep all change from touching their little garden suburbs. |
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