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mrnyc Jan 18, 2019 7:26 PM

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Originally Posted by UTEPman (Post 8440974)
Also showcases his bland/drab personality, and propensity to be cheap...which unfortunately shows itself in the design of these buildings.

At least Stern at JDS has some cajones...

i dk, you can call developers that build 1500' towers a lot of things, but cheap would not be one of them. in this case quirky maybe? rigid? old skool? :shrug:

NYguy Jan 19, 2019 1:50 AM

Time for Barnett to break out that spire...

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/01/18/n...raper-nyc.html

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17 “supertall” skyscrapers — defined as over 984 feet in height by the Council on Tall Buildings and Urban Habitat — have been started or completed since the Great Recession, completely remaking the city’s traditional silhouette.

If the developer Harry B. Macklowe has his way, an 18th will soon join them.

If approved at 1,551 feet tall, his skyscraper, known as Tower Fifth, would rank as the second-tallest building not only in New York, but in the Western Hemisphere.


I at first though that was an error, but it's not, CPT will top out at 1,550 ft. It's even blocked in this rendering, which doesn't even include the Chase tower...


https://static01.nyt.com/images/2019...y=90&auto=webp


More on that here...

http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...=1#post8442136

faridnyc Jan 19, 2019 1:04 PM

If Gary barnett want domine the skyline he oblige To add some floors To break 500m marke and come back it s spire that make the cpt around 1900ft height

chris08876 Jan 19, 2019 8:37 PM

https://scontent-sea1-1.cdninstagram...ninstagram.com
Credit: centralparktower

kingsdl76 Jan 19, 2019 10:58 PM

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Originally Posted by NYguy (Post 8442148)
Time for Barnett to break out that spire...

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/01/18/n...raper-nyc.html




I at first though that was an error, but it's not, CPT will top out at 1,550 ft. It's even blocked in this rendering, which doesn't even include the Chase tower...


https://static01.nyt.com/images/2019...y=90&auto=webp

More on that here...

http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...=1#post8442136


Mark my words, a mega-tall is coming to NYC soon. The ambition in that article, coupled with the current development climate, it's only a matter of time..

NYguy Jan 20, 2019 2:25 AM

^ When all of these towers are on the skyline, someone will want to break free from the pack.


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Originally Posted by chris08876 (Post 8442726)


Still needs that extra something on the top.



dannydalypix

https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4909/4...c9fb5637_h.jpg

jsbrook Jan 20, 2019 3:03 PM

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Originally Posted by kingsdl76 (Post 8442835)
Mark my words, a mega-tall is coming to NYC soon. The ambition in that article, coupled with the current development climate, it's only a matter of time..

Build Chicago Spire in New York! I liked that design.

Barney Greengrass Jan 20, 2019 10:34 PM

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Originally Posted by NYguy (Post 8435392)

That's St. Jean Baptiste Church, a real beauty inside too. One of my Uncles had his practice across E 76th from there in the 80's (It's at E 76th & Lex). It was actually begun as a Francophone church and still fulfills that mission somewhat today: http://stjeanbaptisteny.org/about-us/history/

chris08876 Jan 21, 2019 1:35 AM

The blood moon is coming!

On a side note, Steinway looks straight up ominous. The evil superhero lair vibe going.

I guess even Batman is feeling the effects of gentrification.

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4828/...19a194e5_k.jpg
Manhattan by RadPhotos, on Flickr

NYguy Jan 21, 2019 2:59 AM

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Originally Posted by chris08876 (Post 8443643)
The blood moon is coming!

You mean the blood wolf moon. Can't leave that out.




https://www.instagram.com/p/Bs33lG-hCZY/

https://scontent-ams3-1.cdninstagram...OTIwOA%3D%3D.2

NYguy Jan 21, 2019 11:09 PM

https://www.instagram.com/p/BslrKJ0BbOL/

https://scontent-lhr3-1.cdninstagram...ODY2Nw%3D%3D.2

Chicago103 Jan 22, 2019 4:53 AM

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Originally Posted by jitterbug (Post 8415288)
Great pics...and then some nagging questions struck me. Why all these super-tall towers now? Are the super-rich of the world looking for new ways to stash their money (ie. super-expensive real estate)? (The answer to that is a clear YES, but do the rest of us really need to have that in our face every day?) Well at least when the "little people" are ready to torch the super-rich they'll know where to find them!

In the meantime, what, really, do these buildings add to the fabric of a city, at street level, where real people spend most of their days? In reality, very little. :shrug:

Central Park Tower would mean a lot more to the average person if it had a public observation deck that would be the highest in the United States. To me that is one thing that has kind of changed, it used to be that observation decks and/or a restaurant/bar would be a given in the tallest building in such a major city like NYC even if there was residential space in the building (like the John Hancock Center in Chicago), now it seems the super rich don't even like the idea that there is a floor above their penthouse open to ordinary people. That is what I sorta lament. That being said I still consider the Central Park Tower to be a very significant skyscraper as it will be the first skyscraper in the United States to surpass Chicago's Willis Tower in roof and highest occupied floor height.

NYguy Jan 22, 2019 4:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Chicago103 (Post 8444825)
Central Park Tower would mean a lot more to the average person if it had a public observation deck that would be the highest in the United States. To me that is one thing that has kind of changed, it used to be that observation decks and/or a restaurant/bar would be a given in the tallest building in such a major city like NYC even if there was residential space in the building (like the John Hancock Center in Chicago), now it seems the super rich don't even like the idea that there is a floor above their penthouse open to ordinary people. That is what I sorta lament. That being said I still consider the Central Park Tower to be a very significant skyscraper as it will be the first skyscraper to surpass Chicago's Willis Tower in roof and highest occupied floor height.


Barnett reportedly flirted with the idea of an observation deck, but wisely decided against that - the residents he are targeting for this building are far different than residents of the Hancock Center. As far as the public is concerned, this tower will have a large store at the base (Nordstrom), and many will know it mainly for that. There are other observation decks going up around town, including in a proposal for a tower taller than this one.

pianowizard Jan 22, 2019 5:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Chicago103 (Post 8444825)
it used to be that observation decks and/or a restaurant/bar would be a given in the tallest building in such a major city like NYC

Don't worry, Tower Fifth will be at least 1 ft taller than Central Park Tower and it will have an observation deck.

faridnyc Jan 22, 2019 5:59 PM

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Originally Posted by pianowizard (Post 8445226)
Don't worry, Tower Fifth will be at least 1 ft taller than Central Park Tower and it will have an observation deck.

When you have say at last 1ft , you mean that maybe the height will increase To break 1600ft

NYguy Jan 23, 2019 4:06 AM

https://www.instagram.com/p/Bsyl8S8gGlS/

https://scontent-lhr3-1.cdninstagram...MzQ0Mg%3D%3D.2

mrnyc Jan 23, 2019 5:44 PM

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Originally Posted by NYguy (Post 8445185)
Barnett reportedly flirted with the idea of an observation deck, but wisely decided against that - the residents he are targeting for this building are far different than residents of the Hancock Center. As far as the public is concerned, this tower will have a large store at the base (Nordstrom), and many will know it mainly for that. There are other observation decks going up around town, including in a proposal for a tower taller than this one.


he was right. they don't really go for observation decks above residential towers around this city.

faridnyc Jan 23, 2019 5:44 PM

Garry barnett must do something To increase the height of cpt cause soon it will uterly blocked by tower five

gramsjdg Jan 23, 2019 7:26 PM

Didn't one of the construction doc's have CPT as 1569'? Shouldn't be too hard to raise the parapet to that height or more in any case.

If Tower Fifth doesn't get Barnett to break out the spire, nothing will.

All he needs is a modest 270' spire (shorter than originally proposed) to take the "crown" from Tower Fifth, 1 WTC and the CN Tower in one fell swoop.

Crawford Jan 23, 2019 7:55 PM

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Originally Posted by faridnyc (Post 8446512)
Garry barnett must do something To increase the height of cpt cause soon it will uterly blocked by tower five

Barnett has a number of future supertall sites around Midtown.

If he wants to unseat Macklowe, he'll have multiple opportunities.


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