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Martin Pal Apr 25, 2021 5:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Hollywood Graham (Post 9259976)
The 1971 photo of DTB shows a parking lot next to it, I worked for Grant Parking in '71 and operated that lot during the day. Mostly lot was for the Hollywood Medical Center, lots of older movie people had a Dr. there. Carlotta Monte, W.C. Fields girl friend was a regular, nice person. Many others. '71 was my last year then I went to work for City of L.A..

Don the Beachcomber's
Did you ever eat in the restaurant?

ethereal_reality Apr 25, 2021 7:21 PM

:previous:
re: Carlotta Monti

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...923/s6y9th.jpg
ladailymirror 1933






Some 30 years later. . . .

Carlotta shows up at W.C. Field's entombment.

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ladailyirror





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ladailymirror

Did you read to the end? It's sad and touching. :(



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Hollywood Graham Apr 25, 2021 10:58 PM

Did I Ever Eat At DTB?
 
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Originally Posted by Martin Pal (Post 9260235)
Don the Beachcomber's
Did you ever eat in the restaurant?

No, but I did drink at the bar!!!!!! By the way if you read the Grant Parking sign it said "Convenient" to DTB. Which meant no validation just regular rates. Many people thought they would get free parking but had to pay regular price. Kind of misleading...

CaliNative Apr 25, 2021 11:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Hollywood Graham (Post 9259976)
The 1971 photo of DTB shows a parking lot next to it, I worked for Grant Parking in '71 and operated that lot during the day. Mostly lot was for the Hollywood Medical Center, lots of older movie people had a Dr. there. Carlotta Monte, W.C. Fields girl friend was a regular, nice person. Many others. '71 was my last year then I went to work for City of L.A..

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Originally Posted by Sakhal Nakhash (Post 9260022)
W. C. Fields is one of my favorite comedians. However I was somewhat disappointed in the movie W. C. Fields and Me because it was almost nothing like her book.
From what I've read he used to be something of a regular at Boardner's in Hollywood, had an office near by in the old Warner Theater building, and for a time lived in a house in Whitley Heights. Finally I grew up about a mile from the "sanitarium" where he spent his final days.

^^^
The film has it's moments. It is not perfect but Rod Steiger does a passable version of W.C. Fields. The film spends at least 30 minutes on the supposed abduction of the body of W.C.'s drinking buddy John Barrymore from the mortuary for one last meeting of the drinking & poker club and to send him off to eternity happy. Did that corpse abduction actually happen, or just a tall tale about Fields? See (*) below for more about Barrymore.

Valerie Perrine played Carlotta as the sweet woman that she probably was, and I remember the scene where she sprinkled the roof with a garden hose so the dying Fields could get to sleep. Fields liked the sound of rain on the roof--it relaxed him and it didn't rain often enough in L.A. like it did in Philadelphia. They also found an old L.A. red car to appear on tracks in one if the scenes.

The little person Billy Barty also appeared in the film as Ludwig, a pal of Fields. Maybe he was supposed to be one of the Munchkins. Can't remember. Fields would have made a memorable Wizard of Oz, but Frank Morgan did a good job. Besides, I don't think W.C. was still at MGM when they made it. I vaguely recall that L.B. Meyer had a grudge or dislike of Fields, possibly because he considered him demanding and unreliable because of his drinking. So Fields probably never had a chance to be the Wizard. Fields did a good Mr. Macawber in 1935 for the MGM version of David Copperfield, but he does seem a little tipsy sometimes, but Mr. M was a drinker. "Something will turn up my boy". The eternal optimist.

I read somewhere that Fields' family has possibly prevented the release of "W.C. Fields and Me" for viewing so it is very hard or maybe impossible to find on television or on DVD even today. I guess the family doesn't like the film or maybe they didn't like Carlotta Monti or her book. She did love Fields but I guess his family viewed Carlotta as a golddigger. Sad the way she was treated at the burial service.

I conjecture the unnamed "little (old) man" referred to in ER's newspaper article above about the burial service above may have been Fields' old vaudeville pal Ludwig, played by Billy Barty in the film. If that was Ludwig, he was treated even worse than Carlotta. The attendant wouldn't even let him see the crypt, and he shuffled away misty eyed. Carlotta and Ludwig got no respect.
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(*) John Barrymore and Evelyn Nesbitt. As some of you know, young John Barrymore and the youthful "Gibson Girl" model Evelyn Nesbitt had an affair around the time she got involved with the famous architect Sanford White around 1905 in NYC. White was later killed by Nesbitt's insanely jealous husband Thaw at the Madison Square Garden which White designed; Nesbitt may have posed for the rotating nude statue of the goddess Diana at the crown. The trial of Thaw was the O.J. trial of its day. The case is covered in the films/book "Ragtime" and the "Lady on the Red Velvet Swing". My question--Nesbitt later moved to L.A., perhaps when Barrymore was still alive in the late 1930s. Is it known whether Nesbitt and Barrymore ever met in L.A.? I believe Nesbitt led a quiet life teaching art here in her later years. Barrymore always said that Nesbitt was the love of his life, and he may have proposed to her back around 1905. So, did they ever run into eachother in L.A.? Was Nesbitt's move here because Barrymore was here? Any info?

ethereal_reality Apr 26, 2021 4:28 PM

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mystery location.



Joe E. Brown's house, March 22, 1934.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...923/sCJF4O.jpg
eBay

At least we know it's located somewhere in Beverly Hills.



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ethereal_reality Apr 26, 2021 4:44 PM

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It appears that W.C. Fields didn't forget about his mistress in his will.



W.C. Fields’ 1938 Cadillac V-16 Fleetwood.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...922/gGW5xE.jpg
latimesblog photograph is dated 1980.


Carlotta sold the car to the Imperial Palace Auto Collection in 1984.




The car was listed for sale in 2009 [no price given]



https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...924/XEVRDP.jpg
latimesblog via Hemmings classified car ads

I don't know where, or with whom, the car currently resides.
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Noir_Noir Apr 26, 2021 5:00 PM

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Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 9261041)
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mystery location.



Joe E. Brown's house, March 22, 1934.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...923/sCJF4O.jpg
eBay

At least we know it's located somewhere in Beverly Hills.



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707 Walden Drive, Beverly Hills


https://i.imgur.com/R7p3yEP.jpg
Google Maps

rick m Apr 26, 2021 5:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Noir_Noir (Post 9261082)
707 Walden Drive, Beverly Hills


https://i.imgur.com/R7p3yEP.jpg
Google Maps

Joe E. Brown lost his later Belair home up near Mulholland in the big fire in 1962

John O'Dowd Apr 26, 2021 7:26 PM

https://www.thevintagenews.com/2019/...arbara-payton/

Film noir actress Barbara Payton got lost on the mean streets of Hollywood, and sadly, never found her way back.
Today, I'm sending back my requests and comments to a film producer and screenwriter in Europe who has offered me an option on my work on Barbara's story. So, here's to one more try.
Photo credit: The Vintage News.com

ethereal_reality Apr 27, 2021 5:15 PM

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Maybe we've seen this, maybe we haven't.

This photograph was on eBay the other day and I couldn't stop staring at it.

We're looking at the west end of the Third Street tunnel. (1964) The multi-story building on the right is the old Hotel Elmar.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...922/ppdaIc.jpg
eBay


:previous: Chevy Impala. A parked car one street over appears to be covered with a tarp and I see Jim's Express over on the right.




Scene from The Unfaithful (1947)

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americanfilmnoir



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ethereal_reality Apr 27, 2021 5:48 PM

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Recently found on eBay



Three photographs showing 977 Elden Ave. on November 22, 1922.



https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...922/7spLif.jpg







https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/xq90/922/1HCRIo.jpg

That's a tall fence across the street! What are they keeping, giraffes?







https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...924/2kStpX.jpg


All three found on eBay.

Andyszy Apr 27, 2021 6:18 PM

Looks very similar to the house my parents and my brother and I moved to from Texas in about 1952, though the address was 1225 Eldon Ave. It was quite a different neighborhood back then. We later moved across Pico to Westmoreland Ave.
Andyszy

HossC Apr 27, 2021 7:17 PM

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Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 9262296)

Maybe we've seen this, maybe we haven't.

This photograph was on eBay the other day and I couldn't stop staring at it.

We're looking at the west end of the Third Street tunnel. (1964) The multi-story building on the right is the old Hotel Elmar.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...922/ppdaIc.jpg
eBay

The Hotel Elmar and the New Hotel Elmar were up the slope on the left (with S Hope Street addresses). I believe this photograph was taken from Flower Street, and the line of parked cars are on Cinnabar Street.

The building to the right of the tunnel was either the Crown Hotel at 702 W 3rd Street or the Havlin Hotel at 706 W 3rd Street (or possibly both). The 1963 CD still lists both, but only the Havlin is in the 1964 edition.

ethereal_reality Apr 27, 2021 8:20 PM

:previous:

Thanks for the correction Hoss.

That explains why I was confused by the description at americanfilmnoir

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/8...923/Lq8Zx4.jpg

"This is the Third Street tunnel at the west entrance with Hope Street above. In the clip below Zachary Scott and Steven Geray
drive through the tunnel and turn onto the Hope Street frontage and go into the Hotel Elmar which is visible on the left corner above."







Is this a newstand?

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/6...922/1LDq01.jpg
detail

or someone's player piano?


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Handsome Stranger Apr 27, 2021 8:35 PM

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Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 9262296)

Here's how it appears in the movie, with the Hotel Elmar sign visible:

https://i.postimg.cc/W309FtR9/1947.gif

I admire any citizen who uses proper hand signals when making a turn.

ethereal_reality Apr 27, 2021 8:37 PM

:previous:

That's awesome, H-S.

odinthor Apr 27, 2021 8:46 PM

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Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 9262349)
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Recently found on eBay



Three photographs showing 977 Elden Ave. on November 22, 1922.



https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...922/7spLif.jpg







https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/xq90/922/1HCRIo.jpg

That's a tall fence across the street! What are they keeping, giraffes?
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Thankfully, e_r, we have survivors there: The palm trees.

https://i.postimg.cc/pdBV6SRh/Elden977.jpg
gsv

Those palms are probably about 120 years old.

Any street trees which reach or exceed the hundred year mark should have special protection bestowed on them, say I.

HossC Apr 27, 2021 8:56 PM

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Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 9262576)

Is this a newstand?

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/6...922/1LDq01.jpg
detail

or someone's player piano?

USC has an almost identical image dated 1951. The only difference appears to be that in their photo, the tunnel is full of cleaning vehicles. Even the car and the people on the left are the same. It's like the cleaning vehicles have been airbrushed out of the image above.

In 1951, the mystery business just outside the tunnel was "Butch" Bonollo's Shine Parlor.

https://hosting.photobucket.com/imag...chBonollo1.jpg
Detail from USC Digital Library

ethereal_reality Apr 27, 2021 9:00 PM

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mystery location, Los Angeles


Robby Muller, Polaroid 600 (1984)

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...924/0hSV1B.jpg
annetgelink

There is additional information at annetgelink


Good luck, minions....:superwhip
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Beaudry Apr 27, 2021 11:11 PM

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Originally Posted by HossC (Post 9262630)
USC has an almost identical image dated 1951. The only difference appears to be that in their photo, the tunnel is full of cleaning vehicles. Even the car and the people on the left are the same. It's like the cleaning vehicles have been airbrushed out of the image above.

In 1951, the mystery business just outside the tunnel was "Butch" Bonollo's Shine Parlor.

https://hosting.photobucket.com/imag...chBonollo1.jpg
Detail from USC Digital Library

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...8ac44661_o.png

A less-fancy version of the shoeshine stand shows up in the remake of "M" shot in 1950. You can see this scene at 50:00 minutes in on YouTube.


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