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Streamliner Jul 29, 2021 4:28 PM

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Originally Posted by HurricaneHugo (Post 9352794)
What is that new tall building in the middle?

Also what's the height limit for Banker's Hill?

When flying in, I forgot to get a seat on the left but was pleasantly surprised at how built Banker's Hill looks from up high. Didn't take a picture though oops

https://i.imgur.com/DsZdX60.jpg?1

I believe this is 525 Olive. Someone posted a shot of it u/c a few pages back.

Website: https://www.525olive.com/img/hero.jpg

https://www.525olive.com/img/hero.jpg

DTSDguy Aug 20, 2021 10:04 PM

Updated 7th & Market renderings?

It looks like Cisterra has updated the project renderings on their site. The corner base section with the grocery store is new along with other refinements. I still heard this fall for groundbreaking.

https://www.cisterra.com/7thandmarket

Yuri Aug 27, 2021 7:27 PM

Bringing here from the Downtown thread:

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Originally Posted by yuriandrade (Post 9375525)
Downtown San Diego

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...3cabe3ac_z.jpg


---------------------------- 2020 ------ 2010 ------ 2000 ------ 1990 ------ Growth ------ Density

Downtown --------------------- 39,538 ----- 27,918 ----- 15,482 ----- 12,771 ---- 41.6% ---- 80.3% --- 21.2% ----- 4.7 km² --- 8,457.3 inh./km²

San Diego MSA ----------- 3,298,634 -- 3,095,313 -- 2,813,833 -- 2,498,016 ----- 6.6% ---- 10.0% --- 12.6% -- 10,904 km²


That's one of the biggest suprises for me as I was putting the list. San Diego is so under the radar, and its Downtown even more. It's not only very dense now (8,500 inh./km²), but it's still growing at a very fast pace.

Another testimony of how US Downtowns boom is taking place everywhere, from the Rust Belt to the sunny California.


mello Aug 31, 2021 8:23 PM

Court House Commons on Broadway has a sign up saying 276k sq. feet of office space. This seems like a lot of space because the office portion is only 7 or 8 floors. How can they fit that many sq. feet? For example OAP is 35 floor 623k sq. ft. :shrug:

Streamliner Sep 1, 2021 1:14 PM

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Originally Posted by yuriandrade (Post 9379007)
Bringing here from the Downtown thread:

Thanks for this! I haven't dived into the new Census data much, but Downtown increased quite a bit over the last 10 years, with almost 40k population. I'm curious what the neighboring urban/non-downtown neighborhoods look like now.

Streamliner Sep 1, 2021 1:24 PM

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Originally Posted by mello (Post 9382800)
Court House Commons on Broadway has a sign up saying 276k sq. feet of office space. This seems like a lot of space because the office portion is only 7 or 8 floors. How can they fit that many sq. feet? For example OAP is 35 floor 623k sq. ft. :shrug:

OAP doesn't take up the full block, it has a fairly small footprint. Courthouse Commons will be a full-block project, right?

The full block here is about 70k square feet, So when you consider elevator/utility space and other design limitations, we could assume each office floor contains maybe 40k of office space, so it's possible to reach 275k sf with 7 stories.

mello Sep 10, 2021 6:32 PM

This thread is dead
 
Thought I would bring up a Macro Trend. If anyone has been following in this "New Age of Pandemics" we are in Biotech is BOOMING in SD. That Merge 56 project right off Camino Del Sur is essentially turning in to a huge Bio Lab/Office space project. According to UT they can't build space for BT in SD fast enough. We are en fuego my friends :hell: Gotta keep pumping out those Booster Shots and gene therapies cuz that is the new Gold, move over Data its Genetics now!!

HurricaneHugo Sep 11, 2021 3:24 AM

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Originally Posted by mello (Post 9392710)
Thought I would bring up a Macro Trend. If anyone has been following in this "New Age of Pandemics" we are in Biotech is BOOMING in SD. That Merge 56 project right off Camino Del Sur is essentially turning in to a huge Bio Lab/Office space project. According to UT they can't build space for BT in SD fast enough. We are en fuego my friends :hell: Gotta keep pumping out those Booster Shots and gene therapies cuz that is the new Gold, move over Data its Genetics now!!

Hmm...

Who can we invest in to profit off this development? :hmmm:

Streamliner Sep 15, 2021 3:27 PM

San Diego airport’s $3B terminal 1 expansion clears another critical milestone

California Coastal Commission OK’s the project, but wants assurances of a on-airport transit station, free shuttle from Old Town and a reduction in greenhouse gas emissions.
BY LORI WEISBERG
SEPT. 13, 2021

https://ca-times.brightspotcdn.com/d...021-page-6.jpg

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The San Diego International Airport’s longstanding plan to build a much expanded Terminal 1 has received the blessing of the California Coastal Commission, a crucial step that will move the $3 billion project closer to a groundbreaking later this year.

While the commission raised some concerns about environmental issues, such as greenhouse gas emissions, potential flooding due to sea level rise and increased traffic congestion, it imposed a number of conditions designed to minimize the impacts of the project.

Coastal Commission Vice Chair Donne Brownsey did not mince words in describing the current condition of San Diego’s Terminal 1.

“I think I speak probably for a lot of travelers that fly in and out of the San Diego airport at my joy that you’re going to be building a new terminal,” she said. “Don’t take this personally, but there’s only one way to describe San Diego airport terminal (1) on a Friday, which is a mosh pit — wall to wall people, not enough facilities. And let’s just say I’m very happy to know in the future there will be a new terminal in San
Diego.”
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Two key hurdles have to be cleared before construction can start, said Dennis Probst, vice president of development for the airport. The Airport Authority is awaiting expected approval by the Federal Aviation Administration of a federal-level environmental impact analysis. And next month, the Airport Authority is expected to approve two major design and construction contracts for the terminal, related roadways and airfield improvements.

Assuming those two hurdles are cleared, construction would start in November, with the first 19 gates in the new terminal expected to open in 2025. The demolition of the old terminal would follow, with the additional 11 gates ready to debut by 2027, Probst said. While he expects the maximum contract price will exceed $3 billion, he hopes that by the time the design process is complete, the cost will be closer to $3 billion.

Key to the success of the project and the eventual 40 million passengers the airport is expected to serve by 2040 are a number of planned roadway improvements. Key among them is a new three-lane airport access road from Laurel Street and North Harbor Drive that airport planners say would remove 45,000 vehicle trips per day from Harbor Drive. The airport will also reserve right-of-way for a future three-lane outbound roadway.

The airport is also working with the San Diego Association of Governments and the San Diego Metropolitan Transit System on an ambitious plan to eventually deliver a high-speed transit connection to Terminals 1 and 2. The linchpin of bringing a people mover to the airport is development of a “Grand Central Station” that would likely be located on the Navy’s 70-acre Old Town Complex, commonly known as NAVWAR. The Navy and SANDAG have been jointly working on the project for some time, but it is not yet a done deal.

Coastal Commission staff noted its strong support of a direct transit connection to the airport, such as a people mover, which it said would go a long way toward easing inevitable traffic congestion. As a special condition, it is requiring the airport to identify the specific location it plans to set aside for a future on-airport transit station, to be generally located on the west side of the Terminal 1 parking structure.

In the short term, the commission specified that it wants the Airport Authority to follow through on its commitment to provide free shuttle service between the Old Town Transit Center and the airport. The shuttle, including a plan for its hours and frequency of operation, should be implemented no later than Dec. 1, the commission said. Airport Authority CEO Kim Becker told commissioners that the all-electric shuttles, which are being financed with airport funds, will launch service Nov. 21, with two to four buses at first.

The prospect, long term, for a speedy transit connection is good news for travelers and the environment, Commissioner Brownsey said.

“I really see this as a super positive development,” she said. “If you’ve ever flown in and out of Portland, it is so great because you just jump on their version of the metro and it’s just such a quick, easy and inexpensive and certainly a much better option in terms of greenhouse gases. And here you have proximity, which is really positive.”

SamFlood Sep 16, 2021 2:41 AM

The coastal commission has jurisdiction over this? they also have some vote on Garnet ave parking meters. Over the years they seem to have be allowed to expand their reach. They seem to go unchecked.

Northparkwizard Sep 17, 2021 11:08 PM

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Originally Posted by SamFlood (Post 9397612)
The coastal commission has jurisdiction over this? they also have some vote on Garnet ave parking meters. Over the years they seem to have be allowed to expand their reach. They seem to go unchecked.

Someone correct me on this but I think the Costal Commission has some type of oversight of all projects west of the 5. At least in my construction experience.

Will O' Wisp Sep 20, 2021 5:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Northparkwizard (Post 9399574)
Someone correct me on this but I think the Costal Commission has some type of oversight of all projects west of the 5. At least in my construction experience.

The CCC has a broad level of oversight that has mostly been set in a series of court cases, so it can be hard to pin down exactly. Technically the CCC only oversees land below the mean high tide line, so just by reading the law code you'd think it wouldn't have jurisdiction over anything that isn't occasionally underwater. But there are two major addenda to that:

1. If you reclaim land from the sea, it still counts as being underneath the mean high tide line for the purposes of the CCC. The Airport falls under this jurisdiction because it was dredged out of the harbor in the 30s and 40s. A ton of land was reclaimed around San Diego harbor in that era, which the Port now controls. Here's a map:

https://www.portofsandiego.org/sites...?itok=dcV64hmD


2. The CCC oversees "access" to land underneath the mean high tide line. What exactly this means is vague, but the CCC takes a very expansive view of it. Beyond the obvious of mandating public access-ways so millionaires can't build a wall of mansions blocking off access to the coast, it can include things like mandating free or low cost parking, or even capping the rates beachside hotels can charge for rooms. As you can imagine, this is often subject to a lot of litigation.

The Airport is so close to final approval of T1, I can almost taste it. Shovels in the ground by December boys! There's going to be a video walkthough of the latest render released soon which I think you guys will really enjoy, be on the lookout for it :D

superfishy Sep 20, 2021 11:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Will O' Wisp (Post 9401276)
The Airport is so close to final approval of T1, I can almost taste it. Shovels in the ground by December boys! There's going to be a video walkthough of the latest render released soon which I think you guys will really enjoy, be on the lookout for it :D

Let's hope this upcoming Evergrande default doesn't cause a 2008-like worldwide economic depression.

aekrid Sep 26, 2021 7:02 PM

Alexan Little Italy now above ground. It was nice having that unobstructed view of balboa park from my office while it lasted.

https://i.imgur.com/NOXUSpV.jpg

SamFlood Sep 26, 2021 8:48 PM

Horton Plaza Redo as seen from Pacific Highway Manchester project

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...f43e4dea_b.jpg

Will O' Wisp Sep 27, 2021 2:13 AM

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Originally Posted by aekrid (Post 9407782)
Alexan Little Italy now above ground. It was nice having that unobstructed view of balboa park from my office while it lasted.

The development gods giveth, the development gods taketh away

:multibow: :skyhighmind: :multibow

roletand Oct 3, 2021 8:19 PM

A few observations across downtown:
  • Courthouse Commons (Holland Partner Group) looks like they're almost done pouring the underground parking. :fingerscrossed: We'll start seeing some height on that site soon!
  • Radian + Target (Cisterra Development) installed steel to support the facade of the Farkas building and is excavating inside.
  • Framework (Carleton Management) at 13th & F looks like it's about as tall as it's going to get. Also, it looks like Carleton is advertising all of those units as fully furnished. https://www.carletonmanagement.com/framework Estimated Completion: Q2 2022
  • RaDD (IQHQ) keeps making progress with demolition and underground work. It looks like IQHQ opened an office in the base of Pacific Gate next to Nima Cafe & Animae.
  • Manchester Pacific Gateway Hotel doesn't look like much right now, however the City's downtown development map indicates that underground parking is underway. It's unclear if this applies to the RaDD too as I thought these two projects shared a parking garage even after Manchester sold off the rest of the site to IQHQ.

Speaking of 13th & F, has anyone heard when the city will start building East Village Green? Have they awarded a contract yet?

Streamliner Oct 12, 2021 3:21 PM

The best views of the skyline in my opinion are from the Bay itself. I was able to get these shots a couple weeks back:

https://i.imgur.com/gly7vrDh.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/TRtZdkLh.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/FOnkiY6h.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/XZbsH5Fh.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/o4Byjp9h.jpg

Bonus RaDD site update. The old Navy HQ building is completely gone and the new HQ is standing on an island surrounded by a pit filled with construction equipment.

https://i.imgur.com/Bvd13NHh.jpg

OBomb Oct 13, 2021 4:46 AM

I've noticed that the crown atop One America Plaza has not been on at night for about the past week. I wonder what's going on and when it will be lit again?

roletand Oct 15, 2021 11:22 PM

Great pics Streamliner! Cruise traffic is picking up between Disney, Holland America, Celebrity, and Princess.

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Originally Posted by OBomb (Post 9422264)
I've noticed that the crown atop One America Plaza has not been on at night for about the past week. I wonder what's going on and when it will be lit again?

I noticed this too, right around the time the thunderstorms rolled through. Hopefully the lights come back on soon!


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