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Alexcaban Feb 25, 2020 10:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Langdon0630 (Post 8842432)
I just received a notification from AC saying my LGA - YUL flight (AC745) operated by a 223 in April 2020 has been downgauged to an AC Express aircraft. It appears that all YUL - LGA flights operated by 223 have been removed from schedules for now.

I was hoping to experience the brand new aircraft...... So sad.

For March seems to be a mix of A220/A321

They are fully back in the schedule as of May 1st

AC744, 746, 748 are all A220.

nname Feb 25, 2020 10:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by whatnext (Post 8842305)
Air Canada cancelling China flights through April:

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/tra...ries-1.5475003

Current plan for service resumption:

YVR
Alternate between PEK/PVG starting Apr 11, both routes resume daily starting May 1

YYZ
Alternate between PEK/PVG starting Apr 18, both routes resume daily starting May 1
HKG suspended until daily starting May 1

YUL
Operates on Apr 26, 30 only, resume daily May 1

thenoflyzone Feb 25, 2020 10:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nname (Post 8842451)
Current plan for service resumption:

YVR
Alternate between PEK/PVG starting Apr 11, both routes resume daily starting May 1

YYZ
Alternate between PEK/PVG starting Apr 18, both routes resume daily starting May 1
HKG suspended until daily starting May 1

YUL
Operates on Apr 26, 30 only, resume daily May 1

Subject to change i guess. I highly doubt you’ll be seeing 5x daily service to China from the 3 hubs in May.

thenoflyzone Feb 26, 2020 2:34 PM

People cancelling their trips to Italy it seems.

This will surely affect AC, TS and WS's FCO, VCE and MXP ops in the coming months. Some reductions will most likely be made there as well.

People_talking Feb 26, 2020 2:46 PM

Not going to be a good year for Aviation in general. Hearing that seats in and to China are down by 164 million since the outbreak started.

thenoflyzone Feb 26, 2020 2:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by People_talking (Post 8842908)
Not going to be a good year for Aviation in general. Hearing that seats in and to China are down by 164 million since the outbreak started.

China travel declining for 2020 was a given. Now it's spreading to Europe. That's not good at all, and the impact for Canadian carriers (and therefore jobs) could be far greater.

hollywoodcory Feb 26, 2020 2:57 PM

https://newsroom.lufthansagroup.com/...5-5632a6a10c4c

LH is returning to YYC this summer (via its Eurowings brand) 4x Weekly from June 1.

Curious if this could push DE out.

p_xavier Feb 26, 2020 3:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thenoflyzone (Post 8842913)
China travel declining for 2020 was a given. Now it's spreading to Europe. That's not good at all, and the impact for Canadian carriers (and therefore jobs) could be far greater.

I see a major recession in 2020/2021 that will impact Airport travel like in 2008/2009

thenoflyzone Feb 26, 2020 3:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hollywoodcory (Post 8842921)
https://newsroom.lufthansagroup.com/...5-5632a6a10c4c

LH is returning to YYC this summer (via its Eurowings brand) 4x Weekly from June 1.

Curious if this could push DE out.

Late announcement, so to speak (ex. Condor announced YEG back in early December)

Even though the planning on new routes like these takes months, seems to me like a reaction to COVID. Star alliance switching their focus on TATL instead of Asia. This will put more pressure on WS and their European ops from YYC.

If Italy doesn't contain the disease and it spreads across Europe, the shift to TATL by all these carriers will be a useless attempt at salvaging whatever profit is left in 2020.

hollywoodcory Feb 26, 2020 4:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thenoflyzone (Post 8842957)
Late announcement, so to speak (ex. Condor announced YEG back in early December)

Even though the planning on new routes like these takes months, seems to me like a reaction to COVID. Star alliance switching their focus on TATL instead of Asia. This will put more pressure on WS and their European ops from YYC.

If Italy doesn't contain the disease and it spreads across Europe, the shift to TATL by all these carriers will be a useless attempt at salvaging whatever profit is left in 2020.

This has been rumoured for a while now. It's certainly a late announcement for a long haul, but we will take it as the jury is still out if HU is coming back (not likely).

YYC-Europe will be quite interesting to watch this year as its getting pretty crowded with AC / WS / BA / KL / DE / WK and now LH/EW. FRA up to 14x weekly.

thenoflyzone Feb 26, 2020 7:02 PM

People on airliners seem convinced this is reactionary on the part of LH against DE.

Chadillaccc Feb 26, 2020 10:05 PM

Noiiice! Lufthansa returns to YYC.


Lufthansa And Eurowings Set To Resume Frankfurt-Calgary Flights
Lufthansa is set to return to Calgary from Frankfurt. The flight will be operated in cooperation with Eurowings and will operate on a seasonal basis from the start of June onwards.
Tom Boon | February 26, 2020 | Simple Flying

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Lufthansa currently flies to four destinations in Canada from its Frankfurt hub. These are Ottawa, Montreal, Toronto, and Vancouver. However, this summer that number will increase to five thanks to a new flight being offered in cooperation with Eurowings. The new service will connect the popular Canadian tourist destination to Lufthansa’s route network on a seasonal basis once it launches towards the start of this summer.

As mentioned, the new connection to Calgary will launch on the 1st of June 2020. Once in motion, the flight will be operated by an Airbus A330-200 four times per week. In fact, flights will depart from Frankfurt on Mondays, Wednesdays, Fridays, and Saturdays. They will operate to the following schedule:

LH5452 will depart from Frankfurt (FRA) at 09:50. Following its transatlantic journey, the aircraft will touch down in Canada’s Calgary (YYC) at 11:55.
The aircraft will then remain on the ground for 1-hour and 20-minutes.
LH5453 will depart from Calgary for its return flight at 13:45. Following the return flight, the Airbus A330-200 will touch back down in Frankfurt at 07:20 the next morning.

https://simpleflying.com/wp-content/...13-700x350.gif

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Full story: https://simpleflying.com/lufthansa-a...lgary-flights/




Edit: Oh, woops, this was already posted. Well whatever :haha:

hollywoodcory Feb 26, 2020 10:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thenoflyzone (Post 8843218)
People on airliners seem convinced this is reactionary on the part of LH against DE.

I saw that, but this has been in the works well before LO decided to purchase DE.

Dominion301 Feb 27, 2020 5:13 PM

Another laser pointed at an aircraft approaching Ottawa: https://www.aerotime.aero/clement.ch...ding-in-ottawa

Quote:

A pilot of the Canadian airline Jazz received injuries to his eyes from a laser beam as he was on approach to Ottawa.

The plane, a De Havilland Dash 8-300 registered C-GEWQ, was carrying out domestic flight QK8013 from Montreal Airport (YUL) to Ottawa International Airport (YOW), Canada.

As the flight was 25 kilometers (14 nautical miles) from reaching its destination airport, a green laser beam aimed at the cockpit struck the first officer in the eyes. The captain immediately reported the incident to an air traffic controller and requested medical assistance upon landing.

thenoflyzone Feb 28, 2020 3:34 PM

https://www.anna.aero/2020/02/26/cor...n-five-months/

Total seats in/out of China for February to June 2020 is down 162 million compared to the same period last year.

February 2020 vs January 2020, seats in China are down 55 million, or -57%.

More specifically to us, China-North America for Feb-June 2020 is down 2.5 million seats (-40%) compared to the same period last year. 2.05 million is to the US alone.

craneSpotter Feb 28, 2020 7:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thenoflyzone (Post 8845434)
https://www.anna.aero/2020/02/26/cor...n-five-months/

Total seats in/out of China for February to June 2020 is down 162 million compared to the same period last year.

February 2020 vs January 2020, seats in China are down 55 million, or -57%.

More specifically to us, China-North America for Feb-June 2020 is down 2.5 million seats (-40%) compared to the same period last year. 2.05 million is to the US alone.

There is speculation that this will become a fairly broad based reduction in global air travel this year. All regions is expected to be significantly impacted - with Asia affected the most, then Europe and then by default North America.

The Global Business Travel Association said the virus could cost the travel industry over 500 Billion USD in revenue, as trips to Europe, Asia and elsewhere are called off because of the virus.

Fear plays a big factor. The cruise industry is being hammered too.

https://www.hospitalitynet.org/news/4097203.html

https://www.businessinsider.com/coro...ntrol-5-2020-2

This will really nail the 'hubs' this year.

craneSpotter Feb 28, 2020 8:27 PM

Amazon has instructed its employees to cancel all non-essential travel within North America.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-c...-idUSKCN20M2TZ

p_xavier Feb 28, 2020 9:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by craneSpotter (Post 8845805)
Amazon has instructed its employees to cancel all non-essential travel within North America.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-c...-idUSKCN20M2TZ

More of an excuse to save money...

TheGreatestX Feb 29, 2020 9:14 PM

It seems YYZ-NRT is gone. It used to run seasonally along with YYZ-HND.

Prairiedawg Feb 29, 2020 10:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hollywoodcory (Post 8842994)
This has been rumoured for a while now. It's certainly a late announcement for a long haul, but we will take it as the jury is still out if HU is coming back (not likely).

YYC-Europe will be quite interesting to watch this year as its getting pretty crowded with AC / WS / BA / KL / DE / WK and now LH/EW. FRA up to 14x weekly.

Great to see increasing interest by airlines long haul from YYC to Europe.


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