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Dirt_Devil Jan 17, 2020 6:48 PM

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Originally Posted by samuelx88 (Post 8802796)
If WS could add a daily connecting flight from YQB to YHZ in summer for connections to Europe, that would be very helpful. I've booked CDG-YQB on westjet but I'll have to pass by Halifax and Toronto. Not very convenient to go west and then go back east.

At least their price for that flight was very attractive. So attractive that it made me decide to book a 18h flight instead of TS direct flight.

I’m doing YQB-CDG direct in April. Did not look at the price since I’ll be travelling with my 6 months old baby 🍼. Connections suck lol

Dominion301 Jan 17, 2020 6:52 PM

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Originally Posted by hollywoodcory (Post 8802793)
http://westjet.mediaroom.com/2020-01...wn-and-Calgary

WS adding 4x weekly summer seasonal YYC-YYG from June 25.

That's quite the coup for Charlottetown right after the Swoop announcement for YHM. Transcons out of YYG, wow!

YYG should easily break the 400k pax mark in 2020.

lubicon Jan 17, 2020 7:55 PM

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Originally Posted by whatnext (Post 8802162)
Well, at least they're honest. Scuzzy, but honest.

Swoop airlines is charging a new $2.56 fee on every flight to offset the cost of new federal regulations intended to protect air passengers.

In a statement, the airline said the Passenger Protection Regulation (APPR) Surcharge was introduced to maintain Swoop’s ability to provide “unbundled, ultra-low fares.”

The airline says the fee was introduced on Jan. 9...

https://globalnews.ca/news/6421608/s...senger-rights/

Good on Swoop for actually doing this. Only a fool would think the new passenger bill of rights would not have a negative effect of fares, I'm glad they are being up front about it. Other airlines will just bury it in their fares in the form of fare increases, albeit it small ones.

CityTech Jan 17, 2020 8:30 PM

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Originally Posted by lubicon (Post 8803227)
Good on Swoop for actually doing this. Only a fool would think the new passenger bill of rights would not have a negative effect of fares, I'm glad they are being up front about it. Other airlines will just bury it in their fares in the form of fare increases, albeit it small ones.

I actually think this is the best route and Swoop's idea is bad. The new regulations are part of the cost of doing business, and the cost of doing business should be reflected in a business' core prices, not put into separate fees. I'm reminded of those Calgary restaurants that tried charging a "business support fee" on bills after the AB government raised minimum wage. Just raise your menu prices for frick's sake.

SFUVancouver Jan 17, 2020 8:52 PM

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Originally Posted by lubicon (Post 8803227)
Good on Swoop for actually doing this. Only a fool would think the new passenger bill of rights would not have a negative effect of fares, I'm glad they are being up front about it. Other airlines will just bury it in their fares in the form of fare increases, albeit it small ones.

I think it's a dumb move by Swoop. There will be costs associated with complying with the new laws, but the same is true with complying with existing laws. It's disingenious to highlight this one new cost while obscuring all others. But, using the same logic, will Swoop add an incremental fee when their suppliers inevitably increase costs, or when labour costs increase due to new hiring, or executive compensation goes up?

Hali87 Jan 17, 2020 11:40 PM

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Originally Posted by TheGreatestX (Post 8802504)
Quite the European bank that WestJet has built up at Halifax:

22:20 Dublin (6x)
22:35 London (daily)
22:45 Manchester (4x)
22:50 Glasgow (6x)
22:55 Paris (daily)

It seems like they're developing Halifax into more of a hub for transatlantic flights. Consider that they also offer service to YHZ from YVR, YYC, YEG, YWG along with the more typical Eastern Canada + Florida routes. YQB-YHZ does seem like a natural route but I can't remember there ever being one.

Dirt_Devil Jan 18, 2020 1:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Hali87 (Post 8803565)
It seems like they're developing Halifax into more of a hub for transatlantic flights. YQB-YHZ does seem like a natural route but I can't remember there ever being one.

It used to be operated by Porter a while ago. Did not last long if I’m not mistaken. YQB is very Air Canada / Aeroplan oriented.

thenoflyzone Jan 18, 2020 2:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Dirt_Devil (Post 8803673)
It used to be operated by Porter a while ago. Did not last long if I’m not mistaken. YQB is very Air Canada / Aeroplan oriented.

Fairly certain PD never operated YQB-YHZ.

Dirt_Devil Jan 18, 2020 3:06 AM

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Originally Posted by thenoflyzone (Post 8803734)
Fairly certain PD never operated YQB-YHZ.

It did....

https://www.aeroportdequebec.com/en/...-daily-service

thenoflyzone Jan 18, 2020 5:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Dirt_Devil (Post 8803748)

Wow. Nice catch.

That press release is from 12 years ago. I worked the traffic in/out of YQB back during that time. Never remember seeing PD to YHZ. Im usually good at remembering old routes. I remember when DL feeder flew BOS-YQB.

As you said, must not have operated that long, if at all...

Coldrsx Jan 18, 2020 3:08 PM

Some crazy Swoop deals on right now... many $43-100/one-way across Canada or to Mex/Cali/Flo.

https://www.flyswoop.com/deals/

ghYHZ Jan 18, 2020 3:08 PM

Around 25 years ago.....Air Nova was doing YQB-YQM-YHZ on a Dash 8-100

MonctonRad Jan 18, 2020 3:15 PM

:previous:

I'm surprised there isn't a YQB/YQM route now. It would seem a natural, what with the cultural ties between Acadia and Quebec, the universities (Laval & UdeM), and the satellite medical school in Moncton affiliated with the University de Sherbrooke.

samuelx88 Jan 18, 2020 5:21 PM

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Originally Posted by thenoflyzone (Post 8803829)
Wow. Nice catch.

That press release is from 12 years ago. I worked the traffic in/out of YQB back during that time. Never remember seeing PD to YHZ. Im usually good at remembering old routes. I remember when DL feeder flew BOS-YQB.

As you said, must not have operated that long, if at all...

It probably didn't work long because there wasn't any connection possible on both sides with Porter.

As for DL, they should bring back YQB-BOS in summer. Also, YQB-ATL might be a good route for DL since there's a lot of quebecers going to various cities in Florida in winter.

p_xavier Jan 18, 2020 11:54 PM

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Originally Posted by samuelx88 (Post 8804072)
It probably didn't work long because there wasn't any connection possible on both sides with Porter.

As for DL, they should bring back YQB-BOS in summer. Also, YQB-ATL might be a good route for DL since there's a lot of quebecers going to various cities in Florida in winter.

I used to love Porter but now I just don't get what their strategy is.

thenoflyzone Jan 19, 2020 7:56 PM

YUL November 2019 stats are out.

https://www.admtl.com/sites/default/...et_2019_EN.pdf

Total: 1,359,435 +3.2%

Domestic: 518,487 -1.7%
Transborder: 338,966 +3.0%
International: 501,982 +8.9%

Total YTD: 18,714,863 +4.4%



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2019 Half Year international numbers

1. JFK 16,446,821 (+4.5%)
2. YYZ 16,114,002 (+~ 3.4%)
3. LAX 12,537,810 (-1.0%)
4. MIA 11,408,213 (+4.7%)
5. CUN 8,995,343
6. PTY
7. MEX 8,519,587
8. SFO 7,302,001
9. EWR 6,947,478 (+3.2%)
10. ORD 6,908,165 (+4.6%)
11. YVR 6,688,626 (+3.0%)
12. ATL 6,422,853 (+1.8%)
13. YUL 6,301,228 (+7.6%)
14. IAH 5,504,972
15. DFW 4,591,841 (+7.1%)
2019 YTD October International numbers:

1. JFK 29,184,889 (+3.0%)
2. YYZ 27,377,305 (+2.5%)
3. LAX 21,692,237 (-1.4%)
4. MIA 18,580,259 (+3.4%)
5. MEX 14,621,384 (+~2.5%)
6. PTY
7. CUN 13,682,731 (+~0.5%)
8. SFO 12,845,491 (+7.4%)
9. ORD 12,173,390 (+3.0%)
10. EWR 12,050,253 (+1.4%)
11. YVR 11,652,075 (+1.4%)
12. YUL 11,209,688 (+6.4%)
13. ATL 10,784,008 (+1.4%)
14. IAH 9,210,076
15. DFW 8,093,630 (+10.1%)

Highlights:

JFK and YYZ are miles ahead of the rest of the pack. Doesn't seem like that will change.

DFW, SFO and YUL are the leading airports in terms of growth percentage in North America for last year. YUL has passed ATL, and is approaching YVR.

LAX is in the red, although not by much.

Based on full year figures, MEX has passed both PTY and CUN, and PTY has passed CUN as well, as a result of growth at CUN leveling off quite significantly in 2019.

whatnext Jan 20, 2020 1:03 AM

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Originally Posted by p_xavier (Post 8804380)
I used to love Porter but now I just don't get what their strategy is.

Live off the position they have at YTZ? :shrug:

whatnext Jan 20, 2020 1:07 AM

Canada will be adding messaging at YUL, YYZ and YVR aimed at passengers from China to report symptoms of illness to combat the mysterious coronavirus centred in Wuhan. The last thing Canada needs is another lethal disease from China like SARS, it will devastate our tourism and travel sector.

https://www.theglobeandmail.com/cana...ral-china-for/

thenoflyzone Jan 20, 2020 2:43 AM

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Originally Posted by whatnext (Post 8805073)
Canada will be adding messaging at YUL, YYZ and YVR aimed at passengers from China to report symptoms of illness to combat the mysterious coronavirus centred in Wuhan. The last thing Canada needs is another lethal disease from China like SARS, it will devastate our tourism and travel sector.

https://www.theglobeandmail.com/cana...ral-china-for/

Anything short of temperature screening is useless (even temp screening has its flaws). A passenger from Wuhan most likely doesn’t speak English. So those messages at YVR, YYZ and YUL will go unnoticed, as will the additional health question on the customs form.

The best line of defense is and will always be the customs agent. That first question they ask ( where r u coming from?) will be very important in a case like this. They might need to brush up on their Mandarin though....;)

whatnext Jan 20, 2020 5:58 PM

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Originally Posted by thenoflyzone (Post 8805150)
Anything short of temperature screening is useless (even temp screening has its flaws). A passenger from Wuhan most likely doesn’t speak English. So those messages at YVR, YYZ and YUL will go unnoticed, as will the additional health question on the customs form.

The best line of defense is and will always be the customs agent. That first question they ask ( where r u coming from?) will be very important in a case like this. They might need to brush up on their Mandarin though....;)

I believe the message are also in Mandarin, but I agree. The USA is being much more pro-active. And now we hear it's worse than they first reported (surprise, surprise) and it is spreading person-to-person.
https://www.cnn.com/2020/01/19/asia/...hnk/index.html

Canada was one of the countries worst hit by SARS and yet it's like our government learned nothing. :koko:


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