How long have the Chargers been talking about stadium issues? Correct me, but I think we are talking about 10 or more years.

In my opinion, something conclusive should have occurred much sooner than now. And, the Chargers have already expended a lot of patients.

Whoa! BM Farley... a longtime former... haven't heard from you here in ages. :cheers:

I think both both sides of this have faults.

Having lived in NYS, where government is run by 3 guys in a back room (who are paid for by either corporations or unions), the idea that a group of people can bypass that and get something on a ballot is pretty darn welcoming.

Had dinner with the lead engineer on this last night. He confirmed its a Whole Foods.

Does anyone know if Cisterra was selected to develop 7th and Market, or are they still in contention to win the development project?

found this
http://www.sandiegoh.com/2015/06/17/...8San+DiegOh%29

This gondola is actually being looked at

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CH0HvJNUcAEPZyi.jpg

http://www.sandag.org/index.asp?meet...eetings.detail

Wow, someone noticed! Yes, life took my time to other matters. In a good way. But, always have enjoyed visiting this board.

Nice :). Did they by any chance say anything about a timeline? I know it's probably quite a ways off but curious if there are any tentative dates.

I assume they did because the other two developers who were part of the bidding don't have anything on their web sites. But Civic SD and they city are being really quiet about this, and I'm not sure why. I would have thought one or the other would have made an announcement about the winner so I'm kind of perplexed.

Not development related, but I saw this picture on the Union-Tribune website and thought it was worth sharing. A cool view showing the weathervane of the California Tower looking toward downtown:

http://media.utsandiego.com/img/phot...2435a7128f8cdd

Source page Photo by Eduardo Contreras

http://cdn2-b.examiner.com/sites/def...?itok=Z7vvbBzw
What's your thoughts on the new logo Mello?

Re-Brand

http://www.legendaryauctions.com/Ite...52618a_lg.jpeg

LOL, pretty cool, had never seen that before.

I was kind of thinking they try something like the California Chargers or even Southern California Chargers. There's little doubt to me that the Rams and Raiders will use the "Los Angeles" title.


If the Spanos family does keep this team and doesn't sell it after the Los Angeles move I can see them trying to one up the other team (s) by expanding their fanbase since both the Rams and Raiders will be the cities favorites over the Chargers.

http://www.rantsports.com/nfl/2015/0...oming-clearer/

Here's an outside SD point of view for the LA stadium races. I have been trying to read more into the Oakland and St. Louis stadium battles. Oakland might have a real shot at a new stadium up there and St. Louis seems to be fizzling out.

Very interesting article. Thank you DTELL04.

So with that article suggesting the Rams are going to L.A., and that the Raiders are the next most likely to move if they don't get funding by Monday, that would suggest that the Chargers stay in San Diego in 2016. But with the article in the Voice of San Diego suggesting 66% of San Diegans are against spending public money on a stadium, VoSD suggested that the Chargers could look at St. Louis or San Antonio, later on. Like the sands through the hourglass, so are the days of the San Diego Chargers. :grumpycat:

Sorry you guys are naive to think Chargers are going to LA and the above article confirms that. The only place they might end up going is San Antonio in a few years if nothing ever gets done here. Rams are returning to LA and you never hear speculation about the Chargers being the one joining them in The Wood it is always Raiders. The whole Carson sham was just a way to put mega pressure on SD City/County and it worked.

I also think Spanos is vying for some kind of "market compensation" for teams moving back to LA so he needs to make his LA proposal look serious. He wants to try and milk 200 million or so out of this deal for his "hardship" of having 2 teams come in to what he tries to claim is his market. I can see him getting a nice chunk of the Raiders/Rams relocation fee and walking away with 150 to 250 million from this.

The spoils of the jewel that is the LA market were always going to go to Kroenke or some mega rich owner who paid atleast 700 million for their franchis i.e. a fairly recent purchase. Why would Spanos be rewarded when he is a nobody who bought the team 30 years ago for 70 million. Kroenke paid close to 850 for his 100% stake in the Rams so it is only logical an owner who helped make these franchises worth so much would get to reap the bennies of LA not cheapo Spanos.

I don't know about SA. A year or so ago the SA city council, or some authority in that area flirted with the idea of having an NFL team, and the owners of the Dallas Cowboys promptly told them to shut up. Texas (outside Houston) is Cowboys country, and they hold more leverage in the league than any other franchise. SA would need to get Dallas' approval, and that doesn't seem likely, or mount a very strong campaign to overcome their opposition.

The Cowboys are big around Texas, since it's the most popular team in the state. But do know San Antonio can hold a NFL on it's own. Jerry Jones is whining because if an NFL team ever lands in SA, he'll lose profit.