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hammersklavier Sep 2, 2009 7:16 PM

Some News:

1) Cira South: The parking garage is about halfway done. It is now a presence, and a handsome façade...for a parking garage. There is still space on either side for the two proposed towers, and I hope that a deal can be worked out soon.

2) South Street Bridge: The original bridge was demo'd all the way down to the pierheads and new piers have been built atop. All three main piers are finished, so superstructure installation ought to begin shortly.

3) UPenn Park (for lack of a better name): Demolition of the current parking lots has begun. Exactly how they'll demo the east lot's up in the air since it's currently being used as a Cira South receiving yard. (There is also a disused rail spur down there that I'd hope would be used as a decorative element of some sort in the park.)

4) The JFK Bvld Bridge really does look a lot better!

Swinefeld Sep 2, 2009 8:13 PM

There has been a lot of landscaping and small scale construction on the Schuylkill River Trail. Something is in the works.

bucks native Sep 5, 2009 1:02 PM

http://z.about.com/d/philadelphia/1/0/L/b/parkway14.jpg

The Thinker at the Rodin Museum
Northeast corner, 22nd and the Parkway

photo credit: philadelphia.about.com


Parkway plans

Garden and landscape rejuvenation project at the Rodin Museum, with streetscape improvements at its Benjamin Franklin Parkway location.

Mark Focht of the Fairmount Park Commission and Gail Harrity of the Philadelphia Museum of Art, with others, presented initial plans to tie the Rodin Museum (one of the city’s most frequented sites by international visitors) into a better, more seamless, pedestrian- and bike-friendly stretch of the Parkway from 20th through 22nd streets. Landscape improvements have been commissioned from Olin Partners, and would marry, in a fashion, the Rodin to the new Barnes Foundation museum, school and grounds, now underway across the street.

bucks native Sep 5, 2009 1:23 PM

No casino.

USE THE SHIP!!!!

hammersklavier Sep 5, 2009 8:23 PM

Taken yesterday:
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http://lh6.ggpht.com/_lx0hh_qeHX0/Sq...center%202.JPG

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http://lh5.ggpht.com/_lx0hh_qeHX0/Sq...0interface.JPG

http://lh4.ggpht.com/_lx0hh_qeHX0/Sq...center%206.JPG

hammersklavier Sep 7, 2009 2:44 AM

Photos along the Schuylkill:
http://lh4.ggpht.com/_lx0hh_qeHX0/Sq...nes%20site.JPG

http://lh5.ggpht.com/_lx0hh_qeHX0/Sq...at%20rodin.JPG

http://lh4.ggpht.com/_lx0hh_qeHX0/Sq...40/work....JPG
If somebody can tell me what's going on down there, that'd be much appreciated...

http://lh5.ggpht.com/_lx0hh_qeHX0/Sq...%20nowhere.JPG

http://lh4.ggpht.com/_lx0hh_qeHX0/Sq...ll%20banks.JPG

http://lh5.ggpht.com/_lx0hh_qeHX0/Sq...ct%20specs.JPG
Explains the staircase to nowhere and the path to nowhere.

http://lh3.ggpht.com/_lx0hh_qeHX0/Sq...ing%20pier.JPG

http://lh6.ggpht.com/_lx0hh_qeHX0/Sq...%20nowhere.JPG

http://lh6.ggpht.com/_lx0hh_qeHX0/Sq...t%20bridge.JPG
And a shot of the South Street Bridge...

Steve (hammersklavier)

Aaamazarite Sep 7, 2009 5:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hammersklavier (Post 4443589)

http://lh6.ggpht.com/_lx0hh_qeHX0/Sq...t%20bridge.JPG
And a shot of the South Street Bridge...

Steve (hammersklavier)

Holy Poop! This thing looks like it might be ahead of schedule! A philly first!

Rail>Auto Sep 18, 2009 1:51 AM

I like the looks of this project, just wish they would save the spectrum... It's not like they don't have a 1,000 other parking spaces to put this in. The demolition of the spectrum will be the 2nd historic facility in that complex to be demolished.. what a shame.

I'm shocked that this project is moving so easily with cordish given the fact that they backed out of louisville, still haven't gotten a move on in st. louis, and are getting mixed reviews in kc.

Rail>Auto Sep 18, 2009 1:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hammersklavier (Post 4376437)
Well then, how does every other city of our density in this country maintain their stadium-side parking garages? I like tailgating as much as the next person, and surely some tailgate lots will persevere for some time, but honestly, do you need miles and miles of asphalt for that singular purpose?

Yea, why not build parking garages and then convert the current asphalt lots into parks with areas for tailgatting inside of them?

Or better yet, why not encourage mass transit instead like AT&T Park does?

winxs Sep 18, 2009 2:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rail>Auto (Post 4462143)
I like the looks of this project, just wish they would save the spectrum... It's not like they don't have a 1,000 other parking spaces to put this in. The demolition of the spectrum will be the 2nd historic facility in that complex to be demolished.. what a shame.

Third. JFK Stadium, The Vet, and now the Spectrum.

bucks native Sep 18, 2009 8:58 AM

from here: http://www.planphilly.com/penn-park-progress


Penn Park progress / September 16
planphilly.com

Penn Connects status check

On Feb. 26, 2009, Architect Michael Van Valkenburgh unveiled the model for Penn Park, the principal project on the former postal lands. While the plan includes a parking lot for 300 cars, the park is enhancing a desperately desolate concrete landscape into a large, vast open space. David Hollenberg said “it was the first time that Penn had the opportunity to design open space of this magnitude.”

“In the 1950s and 60s,” Praxis Director Harris Steinberg adds, “the University wanted to create an inward facing campus. In turn, this had a negative impact on the surrounding communities.” Now with Penn Connects, Steinberg believes, the University has had a philosophical change in the way its campus should physically and visually interact with the city. With Penn Connects, Penn hopes to create a beneficial environment not just for its students and faculty, but for all Philadelphians as well.

The proposal for Penn Park calls for three playing fields, a dome to cover a field during winter months, a 12-court tennis center, a softball stadium and possibly a ropes course on the eastern edge of campus between Walnut Street and South Street against the Schuylkill River.

Papageorge says the final plans will all depend on funding as some things (e.g. the softball field) take priority over others (e.g. the ropes course). The current design of the park is also environmentally friendly, as it includes storm water management and features native plants of the region. According to Papageorge, the first phase of the park is scheduled to open spring 2011.

“The ultimate goal,” says Papageorge, “is to make this area alive with 24/7 activity.” Over time (and with appropriate funding), Papageorge says the northern edge of Penn Park will eventually become a mixed-used development to include office, retail and residences for the university and city.

bucks native Sep 18, 2009 2:09 PM

Work planned to start
 
http://www.planphilly.com/sites/plan...endering_0.jpg

render credit: planphilly.com

copy of Center City Digest Fall '08 (discusses plans for ALL of Center City) here: http://www.planphilly.com/sites/plan...Fall08-Web.pdf

Get the Plaza right

planphilly.com
September 19, 2009

nice slideshow here: http://www.planphilly.com/node/6579

COMMENTARY / By Kiki Bolender and John Gibbons

The Center City District (CCD) is proposing a complete overhaul of the Dilworth Plaza, the public space to the west of City Hall.

A photo slide show and a three-part video tour of the site accompany this commentary. More detailed analyses of the proposed design are included by John Gibbons, co-chair of the AIA Urban Design Committee, and John Andrew Gallery, Executive Director of the Preservation Alliance of Greater Philadelphia.

A December 2008 video showing the presentation of the CCD plan to the Philadelphia City Planning Commission is also featured below.

The proposed budget for the renovation work is $40-45 million, with $20 million called for as part of Mayor Nutter’s request for federal economic stimulus funds.

The project was presented to the Art Commission this month and the Planning Commission in December. Approvals are expected this winter, with construction scheduled before the end of the year.

According to CCD President and CEO Paul Levy, three structures are proposed – two along 15th Street – one as a stairway into traffic and the other housing a café and elevator access to the concourse. Both currently will have green roofs. A third smaller structure is contemplated along the north side aligned with a view up the Parkway. A smaller café and elevator access to concourse.

The existing plaza was conceived as a connector between the concourse below and activity on the street level. Transit riders can enter or emerge from the lower level below as it suits their convenience. The proposed new design wipes all that out, replacing a complex series of level changes with a single stair located to reinforce a design idea that is not reflective of natural user patterns.

We need to take a nuanced look at the existing plaza, and see what could be wonderful, and what might be hopelessly ineffective. The south end, with its ponderous granite furnishings and scary space-age fountain, does not appear to have much to recommend it. But the north end has the potential to be a wonderful place, with a sunlit lower level full of moveable chairs and bright umbrellas in the summer, and a skating rink in the winter.

In place of solid granite the proposed design concept would give us a glass sidewalk running almost the entire width of City Hall. Is this a material to stand the rigors of winter and time? Once it is covered with salt in bad weather, will we be able to walk on it? Or will it just be cordoned off, like another forlorn office building plaza? When the sun comes out after the storm, will that glass be beautiful, or will it be scratched and clouded from the salt?

In place of the present imaginative (albeit sometimes strange and foreboding) links between the street and the concourse, the CCD scenario “envisions the complete reconstruction of Dilworth Plaza on the west side of City Hall with a new high-visibility, transparent entrance to public transit …” (Center City: Planning for Growth, Broad Street and City Hall, page 4, April 2007). The two buildings proposed along 15th Street are 100 feet long and the height of a three story row house. The sides are glass, and the roof will be covered with earth for plantings.

City Hall is a treasure – massive, quirky, over abundant in every way. (If you choose the right portal, you are greeted by carved elephants) As you approach it from the west on Market Street, each block reveals more and more of its outlandish width. The proposed pair of buildings would block that revelation, limiting your experience to the prescribed view. Stopped for the traffic light at Market Street, drivers would see transit entrances, not the seat of our government. Are these buildings generous? What do they give us? One replicates in function and type the SEPTA transit escalator enclosure across the street. According to Paul Levy, Executive Director of the CCD, the second is intended to house a café and provide elevator access to the concourse, both requiring solid enclosures within the glass.

Yet another building is proposed for the northwest corner of the site, with another point of elevator access, another café and a roof deck. The extraordinary view up the Parkway would be blocked, available only to those who could afford a seat on the roof. That is a total of three buildings in the plaza, each one blocking views to and from the plaza. Is the City eager to take on these high-maintenance structures? Is it realistic to imagine two cafes thriving in the plaza?

bucks native Sep 18, 2009 2:16 PM

Weave Bridge featured in the Architect's Newspaper

The Architect's Newspaper: Do the Twist

The University of Pennsylvania has landed a piece of trophy architecture with a definite twist: the new Weave Bridge, designed by structural engineer Cecil Balmond and his legendary Advanced Geometry Unit (AGU) research group at Arup. Now open to the public, the bridge will become part of a second phase of design work this fall with its integration into the surrounding campus masterplan, itself a hefty undertaking to remake the Philadelphia campus.
The unusually ambitious design was commissioned by the university in 2007, in reaction to a city announcement that it would temporarily close an essential campus connection: the century-old South Street Bridge, which had long served as the sole passage over an Amtrak line that runs between Penn’s athletic fields and its Hollenback building, home to athletic and ROTC facilities.


Location
3100 South Street
Philadelphia, PA, 19104

Rail>Auto Sep 19, 2009 12:50 AM

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Originally Posted by winxs (Post 4462222)
Third. JFK Stadium, The Vet, and now the Spectrum.

You are absolutely right.. I forgot about JFK.

winxs Sep 19, 2009 12:58 AM

Confused
 
I don't understand this. The proposal identified in the last post is the old proposal from Fall '08. A new proposal came out this past Spring, which all of the rest of the posts in this thread were discussing. Even though the date is listed as September, 19, 2009, the quoted article is from January 20th.

cubanChris Sep 19, 2009 2:14 PM

plan philly rotates a lot of their old articles/features in the bottom 'quick content' section.

perhaps it was just one of the old ones cycling through? too bad - it'd be nice to see a large scale, high profile development like that mobilizing.

ah well.

bucks native Sep 21, 2009 5:27 PM

WINXS: You're correct. That date (19 SEP 2009) cannot be accurate. Sorry I didn't catch it. Thanks.

This is also from planphilly but the date is correct:

The City of Philadelphia in partnership with the Center City District & SEPTA is hosting an Open House for the public to hear a presentation by the design team and review plans for the Renovation of Dilworth Plaza Tuesday, September 22, 2009
6:00-7:30 PM
AIA Design Center
1218 Arch Street
Philadelphia, PA
Formal presentation begins at 6:30 PM


The reconstruction of Dilworth Plaza at City Hall is among the most significant opportunities Philadelphia now has to transform an inhospitable plaza into an extraordinary centerpiece of the city's physical and civic fabric. The proposed, new Dilworth Plaza will be a gathering place for residents, office workers and visitors, a pedestrian link between the expanded Pennsylvania Convention Center and the retail, dining and entertainment district of Center City, and a major gateway to Philadelphia's multi-modal transit system. The public will have an opportunity to view and comment on plans proposed for the renovation of Dilworth Plaza and talk directly with the project design team.

Location
1218 Arch Street
Philadelphia, PA

hammersklavier Sep 21, 2009 6:12 PM

What is with these civic associations' obsession with presenting the one evening of the week when I'm not normally free? Gah...

hammersklavier Sep 22, 2009 2:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bucks native (Post 4462673)
“The ultimate goal,” says Papageorge, “is to make this area alive with 24/7 activity.” Over time (and with appropriate funding), Papageorge says the northern edge of Penn Park will eventually become a mixed-used development to include office, retail and residences for the university and city.

I like that! :tup: Hopefully, between the old loft building, Cira South, mixed use and Penn Park entrances, and something in the lot between Cira South, Chestnut, Walnut, and the Schuylkill, this will be the southern anchor to a new neighborhood both CC and UC desperately need.

1SharpeMan Sep 24, 2009 8:45 PM

Historic????????
 
How about Infamous! Now JFK was a little before my time so I will concede. But the Vet historic??? What was historic, notoriously being voted worst stadium every year? The railing callapse injuring cadets attending the Army Navy game (which is historic)? The Chicago Bears reciever who blew out both knees just running down the field?
Not once while attending games at either of the new stadiums do I wish to be back at the Vet! And to be honest, the Spectrum was nice for it's time, but what would you save it for, what is so historic about it? It is not Madison Square Garden & the vet was no Lambeau Field or Fenway Park? Let progress happen and get over it.

Don098 Sep 24, 2009 11:53 PM

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Originally Posted by 1SharpeMan (Post 4472834)
what is so historic about it?

I guess it wasn't historic enough for you when the Flyers became the first NHL team in the United States to defeat the Soviet Central Red Army team during the height of the Cold War, huh. You might want to rethink your username after that one lol! (I'm sorry, I couldn't help it, that was just too priceless)

I guess saving it for the Phantoms made plenty of sense to me?

cwd22 Sep 25, 2009 2:05 AM

Well, there's definitely no reason to demolish the Spectrum with all the parking lots that are right there. If space was running low down there, I wouldn't have much of a problem with the Spectrum going, but that's certainly not the case.

1SharpeMan Sep 25, 2009 12:51 PM

hmmmmmm......
 
No need to apalogize for your witt, I like it! Good point on the Russians vs Flyers, but in my opinion it does not make it the Parthenon and saved forever even if it becomes completely obsolete.
Most of my tirade in the previous comment was directed toward the vet! The Spectrum, just does not seem like it would be as useful as the Philly LIve complex when it comes to $$$$. The phantoms can play in the Center. We will never get a WNBA team, the Arena league is gone, so besides a few comcerts, I do not see how the spectrum could compete with the revenue from Philly Live.

hammersklavier Sep 25, 2009 3:52 PM

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Originally Posted by 1SharpeMan (Post 4474136)
No need to apalogize for your witt, I like it! Good point on the Russians vs Flyers, but in my opinion it does not make it the Parthenon and saved forever even if it becomes completely obsolete.
Most of my tirade in the previous comment was directed toward the vet! The Spectrum, just does not seem like it would be as useful as the Philly LIve complex when it comes to $$$$. The phantoms can play in the Center. We will never get a WNBA team, the Arena league is gone, so besides a few comcerts, I do not see how the spectrum could compete with the revenue from Philly Live.

Huh? I thought we won like last year's Arena Bowl...

theWatusi Sep 25, 2009 5:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 1SharpeMan (Post 4474136)
We will never get a WNBA team

Sure we could. Their home court could be at a high school and have plenty of room for the 312 fans they'd have.

PhillyRising Sep 25, 2009 6:18 PM

For me, the biggest mistake of this whole project was not replacing the Spectrum with a smaller arena like they have up in Trenton and Reading. Having two indoor arenas really worked well for this city in attracting many things. The Phantoms would have done well in a 6-7,000 seat arena. Now the Wachovia Center is going to have more pressure to host everything. Not every arena concert should be in a 20,000 seat venue.

They could have had a concert in one arena and a Flyers/Sixers game going on in the Center and having thousands of people milling around the complex.

theWatusi Sep 25, 2009 6:30 PM

Could one fit a small arena in the disney hole?

1SharpeMan Sep 25, 2009 7:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hammersklavier (Post 4474375)
Huh? I thought we won like last year's Arena Bowl...

We won the Arena Bowl in 08 and the 09 season was cancelled shortly followed by the termination of the league.

cwd22 Sep 26, 2009 1:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by theWatusi (Post 4474693)
Could one fit a small arena in the disney hole?


It would have to be extremely small, not even Trenton's arena could fit there.

Don098 Sep 26, 2009 2:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 1SharpeMan (Post 4474136)
Good point on the Russians vs Flyers, but in my opinion it does not make it the Parthenon and saved forever even if it becomes completely obsolete.

Hey I completely agree with you about that. In terms of a sports facility now, it's definitely dated. I just don't understand why they didn't build this Philly Live somewhere else in the exorbitantly large parking lots of each facility.

And the Arena league is dead, hammer. They dismantled it for financial reasons this year.

Rail>Auto Sep 26, 2009 5:33 PM

The VET was historic... It was known for its rough working class attitude. It even had its own jail and judge. Most people admit that Linc. Fin. took a lot of energy out of the environment (not that I believe a new stadium wasn't needed). Was it in bad shape? Of course, but thats not why you save the vet. If that were the case you might as well start demolishing Wrigley right now.

You save it because of all of its history, both in baseball and football. You probably would have needed to gut most of the rooms, clean them up, and then establish offices, condos, lofts, hotels, restaurants, banquet halls, and convention space with the field serving as a park in the middle.

And one of the other reasons why the spectrum is historic is bc it was the site of Duke-UK 92. I believe the NCAA has awarded Philly a spot as host in the 2013 tournament bc they are selecting cities with ncaa history in them.

The arena football league in its current form is dead, but I believe it will return in some way shape or form, especially since A2 is still going.

wanderer34 Sep 26, 2009 7:39 PM

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Originally Posted by DIESELPOLO (Post 4385598)
North Philadelphia doesn't necessarily have that kind of urgency. The need for preventing mass teardowns (to build strip malls) and the desecration of urban neighborhoods with suburban-styled houses faced with vinyl siding, is real, but North Philadelphia does not require the re-mapping of an entire area and rethinking of massive parking mandates.

Preach on bro!!! Looking at those houses makes me want to tear my eyes apart!!! They just don't look right in NP. Also, you should look at the hack job along Erie Ave west of Broad. :yuck:

PhillyRising Sep 26, 2009 8:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Rail>Auto (Post 4476108)
The VET was historic... It was known for its rough working class attitude.

The Vet was a dump. There was nothing historic about it. It wasn't a great design at all.

The concession stands were nasty looking...the concourses were dim...and the place was just filthy dirty from years of neglect and deferred maintainence. There weren't enough rest rooms and the ones they had were disgusting...especially with guys pissing in the sinks because the lines for the urinals were too long.

I don't miss it at all. Citizens Bank Park is far better for a baseball game and it's nice having an open feeling at the stadium instead of the closed in feeling at the Vet.

Also, Philly Live! should have a building for the Philadelphia Sports Hall Of Fame. That would get plenty of visitors..especially on game days.

cubanChris Sep 26, 2009 10:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rail>Auto (Post 4476108)
The VET was historic... It was known for its rough working class attitude. It even had its own jail and judge. Most people admit that Linc. Fin. took a lot of energy out of the environment (not that I believe a new stadium wasn't needed). Was it in bad shape? Of course, but thats not why you save the vet. If that were the case you might as well start demolishing Wrigley right now.

Comparing the Vet and Wrigley, even if for effect, really undermines any argument you man have had my man. The Vet was a dump. Make the case for the Spectrum, but the Vet is only really good for nostalgia.

1SharpeMan Sep 27, 2009 4:50 AM

Dump????
 
I don't even understand the opposite point if view! Calling it a dump is being kind! Towards the end, it was a complete embarrassment. We lost the army navy game, had law suits against the city for bad knees. I remember the Steelers actually making them rip up a section of turf to fill the "potholes" under it before a game.
But to stay on topic, Philly Live could be great for the city. Look at the volume of business at Chickie and Petes or McFaddens. You can barely walk threw them so the opportunity and money is there at the stadiums. So why would anyone consider building it somewhere else?

Johnland Sep 29, 2009 12:51 AM

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Originally Posted by theWatusi (Post 4351205)
more updates updates updates including views from the City Hall Tower

http://lh6.ggpht.com/_mF8OApz9VpQ/Sl...0/IMG_2744.JPG

http://lh4.ggpht.com/_mF8OApz9VpQ/Sl...0/IMG_2746.JPG

I just saw how Chicago's City Hall roof was converted to green roof. They installed a layer of soil and plants on the existing roof. The plants and soil absorb rain water and reduce runoff, provide insulation, reduce energy usage and actually help to reduce the heat-island over the city.

It's a shame this convention center is, well, so conventional.

looper121 Oct 1, 2009 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Johnland (Post 4479471)
I just saw how Chicago's City Hall roof was converted to green roof. They installed a layer of soil and plants on the existing roof. The plants and soil absorb rain water and reduce runoff, provide insulation, reduce energy usage and actually help to reduce the heat-island over the city.

It's a shame this convention center is, well, so conventional.

Well, at least it's reflective. :hmmm:

PhillyVegan Oct 4, 2009 2:39 PM

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Originally Posted by hammersklavier (Post 4395981)
So anyway over the last coupla days me and a (female) friend (from Chinatown) who shares the same major as me have gotten to talking a lot about the Reading Viaduct...It's a crying shame that there's so little community support--or even community awareness--about the idea of turning it into a trail. So what do two Temple GUS majors do?

Is your friend Chinese, or at least not one of the condo-owners? I would suggest not using the term "gentrification" (of the area around the viaduct) when talking about this, because for a lot of us, it is a dirty word. Gentrification is not a pretty word to everyone; particularly those who would most likely be forced out of their homes by rising property values.

hammersklavier Oct 4, 2009 5:42 PM

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Originally Posted by PhillyVegan (Post 4489055)
Is your friend Chinese, or at least not one of the condo-owners? I would suggest not using the term "gentrification" (of the area around the viaduct) when talking about this, because for a lot of us, it is a dirty word. Gentrification is not a pretty word to everyone; particularly those who would most likely be forced out of their homes by rising property values.

1) Why do you care?

2) Gentrification is a dirty word only among the ignorant. It describes a process, nothing more, nothing less, and a process that is riddled with its own issues, to boot. Yes, in its more extreme manifestations, it can be problematic, but at the same time any type of neighborhood self-improvement whatsoever can be described as such. Worse, from the point of view of those of us who are or aspire to be professionals in this field, it is impossible to have any term for 'neighborhood self-improvement' without its more extreme manifestations giving it a bad rap.

Fallaciously confusing a term's technical meaning with its colloquial one is not something that'll make me get along with you...see minor for why.

philadelphiathrives Oct 4, 2009 10:14 PM

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Originally Posted by hammersklavier (Post 4489203)
1) Why do you care?

2) Gentrification is a dirty word only among the ignorant. It describes a process, nothing more, nothing less, and a process that is riddled with its own issues, to boot. Yes, in its more extreme manifestations, it can be problematic, but at the same time any type of neighborhood self-improvement whatsoever can be described as such. Worse, from the point of view of those of us who are or aspire to be professionals in this field, it is impossible to have any term for 'neighborhood self-improvement' without its more extreme manifestations giving it a bad rap.

Fallaciously confusing a term's technical meaning with its colloquial one is not something that'll make me get along with you...see minor for why.

I think you're mistaken about the term "gentrification". It is derived from the word "gentry", which refers to wealthy people who inherited their wealth from old family fortunes. Gentrification refers to the replacement of existing residents by this class of people, whose wealth increases property values so much that only wealthy people can live in these gentrified neighborhoods. Working class people and poor people are permanently shut out of gentrified neighborhoods, and many people dislike that scenario.

Revitalization is the term that you are probably thinking of. Revitalization implies more activity in a neighborhood. It is used to refer to physical improvements, mainly, that lead to increased economic activity and attracts new residents, tourists, and businesses to a neighborhood . It does not refer to the economic class of residents, so it is the less controversial term.

hammersklavier Oct 5, 2009 1:18 PM

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Originally Posted by philadelphiathrives (Post 4489534)
I think you're mistaken about the term "gentrification". It is derived from the word "gentry", which refers to wealthy people who inherited their wealth from old family fortunes. Gentrification refers to the replacement of existing residents by this class of people, whose wealth increases property values so much that only wealthy people can live in these gentrified neighborhoods. Working class people and poor people are permanently shut out of gentrified neighborhoods, and many people dislike that scenario.

Revitalization is the term that you are probably thinking of. Revitalization implies more activity in a neighborhood. It is used to refer to physical improvements, mainly, that lead to increased economic activity and attracts new residents, tourists, and businesses to a neighborhood . It does not refer to the economic class of residents, so it is the less controversial term.

Perhaps, but "revitalization" calls to mind projects, and so that word too has negative connotations. So what are we left with? One word implies exclusionism and the other projectism--and it's because of the projectist implications that revitalization gained over the era of Big Housing that it's a word sine qua non grata in technical circles...I am aware that gentrification has its own problems and issues, but until somebody coins a better word I'm going to keep using it.

How about "frindle"?

hammersklavier Oct 6, 2009 1:21 AM

The Barnes Museum designs have (finally) been forced out!

http://www.philly.com/philly/enterta...r_parkway.html
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The Barnes Foundation's new Philadelphia home will be a gracious, golden-hued temple - modern in style, yet almost classical in its repose - set in a tree-shrouded enclave on the Benjamin Franklin Parkway, according to documents that officials submitted to the Philadelphia Art Commission on Friday, but were made public only today.

Acting on the instructions of the city Law Department, the art commission took the wraps off the Barnes’ 17-page presentation, which is scheduled to be reviewed at the commission’s Wednesday morning meeting.

When the Barnes submitted the renderings and site plan on Friday, it argued that the images of the new museum were “proprietary” and should not be released until the commission meets at 9:30 a.m. But after the city received several requests under the Freedom of Information Act, the law department concluded that the public had the right to review the documents before the commission convened.

While the pictures themselves don’t completely explain the logic that underpins the design, created by the New York architects Tod Williams and Billie Tsien, they do give viewers a good sense of what the Barnes’ new home will look like and how it will fit in with the parkway’s other cultural buildings.

It’s very clear, for instance, that the galleries containing the Barnes’ famous collection of Impressionist art will face the parkway. A separate L-shaped structure wrap around those galleries, completing a U shape. The middle section is topped by a long glass cap that extends well beyond those two structures, toward 21st Street and the neighboring Rodin Museum.

bucks native Oct 6, 2009 9:33 AM

Hammer: I respectfully believe that The Barnes warrants its own thread. No? Placed here as a "river" project, I suspect that it will be overlooked.

There are lots of folks outside our region who are interested in this project and wouldn't know to look here to learn what's planned. Why not give it prominence? Your post, above, would be a good start to the new thread.

Just my opinion. I could be mistaken.

bucks native Oct 6, 2009 10:05 AM

from here: http://www.philly.com/inquirer/local...verfronts.html


Oct. 6, 2009

Citizens' group to boost Phila. riverfronts
By Michael Matza

Inquirer Staff Writer

Seeking clout in unity, the newly formed Coalition for Philadelphia's Riverfronts is an alliance of more than three dozen civic, neighborhood, governmental, faith-based, and business groups dedicated to revitalizing the city's waterfront areas through the creation of a comprehensive rivers' edge greenway.

"Riverfront groups generally have advocated for a local portion or a section" of the rivers, said coalition coordinator Rachel Vassar. What distinguishes the coalition, she said, is that it brings together diverse constituencies, from South Philadelphia's Passyunk Square Civic Association to Port Richmond's Friends of Pulaski Park. From the Jewish service organization Moishe House to the Philadelphia Anglers' Club.

The idea, she said, is to speak with "one voice for a citywide policy," grounded in the belief that the whole is more than the sum of its parts.

At a 5 p.m. gathering today at Schuylkill Banks Plaza next to the Philadelphia Museum of Art, representatives of the coalition plan to call on City Council and the City Planning Commission to adopt ordinances and regulations requiring that land along the Schuylkill and the Delaware River be reserved for a green swath that will contain trails for hiking, jogging, rowing, kayaking, bicycle commuting, and other recreational uses.

Besides contributing to the public's health by providing space for vigorous physical exercise, a unified greenway will improve water quality because "a good vegetated buffer can help filter pollutants," the organizers say.

The coalition, funded by a William Penn Foundation grant of about $25,000, envisions turning abandoned factory areas into parkland and connecting communities that otherwise have stood apart.

"When the coalition succeeds in its mission," the group said in a prepared statement, citizens in Bridesburg, Tacony, Holmesburg, and Fishtown, "who never thought of themselves as part of one whole" will work together.

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hammersklavier Oct 6, 2009 12:50 PM

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hammersklavier Oct 6, 2009 1:01 PM

PHILADELPHIA | Barnes on the Parkway
 
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October 7, 2009
Architecture Review
Architects Reimagine the Barnes Collection
By NICOLAI OUROUSSOFF

Can a design convey an institution’s feelings of guilt?

That’s the question that came to mind when I saw the plans for the new Barnes Foundation in downtown Philadelphia, which are scheduled to be unveiled on Wednesday.

A few years back, the decision to move the Barnes, a revered American art institution, from its current location in the suburban town of Merion, Pa., to a site in Philadelphia’s museum district caused an uproar — not only because it brazenly went against the will of the founder, Albert C. Barnes, but also because it threatened to dismantle a relationship among art, architecture and landscape that was critical to the Barnes’s success as a museum.

For any architect taking on the challenge of the new space, the tangle of ethical and design questions might seem overwhelming. What is an architect’s responsibility to Barnes’s vision of a dazzling but quirky collection of early Modern artworks housed in a rambling 1920s Beaux-Arts pile? Is it possible to reproduce its spirit in such a changed setting? Or does trying to replicate the Barnes’s unique aura only doom you to failure?

The answers found in the drawings of Tod Williams and Billie Tsien, the New York architects who took the commission, are not reassuring.

The new Barnes will include many of the features that have become virtually mandatory in the museum world today — conservation and education departments, temporary exhibition space, auditorium, bookstore, cafe — making it four times the size of the old Barnes. The architects have tried to compensate for this by laying out these spaces in an elaborate architectural procession that is clearly intended to replicate the serenity, if not the eccentric charm, of the old museum.

But the result is a convoluted design. Almost every detail seems to ache from the strain of trying to preserve the spirit of the original building in a very different context. The failure to do so, despite such an earnest effort, is the strongest argument yet for why the Barnes should not be moved in the first place.

The old Barnes is by no means an obvious model for a great museum. Its unlikely suburban setting was partly intended as a tweak to the city’s wealthy downtown art establishment. Inside the lighting is far from perfect, and the collection itself, mixing masterpieces by Cézanne, Picasso and Soutine with second-rate paintings by lesser-known artists, has a distinctly oddball flavor.

But these apparent flaws are also what has made the Barnes one of the country’s most enchanting exhibition spaces. The creaky floors and cluttered rooms are light years away from the bigger, more blockbuster-oriented museums of Philadelphia, Washington and New York — a difference that has only grown more extreme in recent years, as museums have poured money into increasingly slick expansion projects. There are no distracting, superfluous spaces in the old Barnes — no education centers or contemplation zones. The homey atmosphere of the place reinforces a feeling of being engaged in an intimate dialogue with Barnes himself, not with an anonymous curatorial staff.

And the juxtaposition of magnificent and lesser works offers a to-the-point lesson in what makes great art and forces you to consider why your eye is immediately drawn to one work and not another. It makes art personal.

The artworks and galleries in the new Barnes will be displayed in exactly the same arrangements, but their surroundings will be grander and far more polished. The museum, composed of two buildings facing each other across a glassed-in court, will stand on Benjamin Franklin Parkway — the Beaux-Arts axis that runs from the foot of the Philadelphia Museum of Art past the Rodin Museum and the Free Library.

Visitors arriving from the parkway will follow a drawn-out path that begins on one side of the museum and then will turn to run along the front of the building before arriving at the main entry.

From there they will be able to peer across the court through a big floor-to-ceiling window at the building that houses the galleries.

It’s a perverse tease. Instead of heading directly to the art, they will turn into another room to pick up their tickets, and then turn back before entering the courtyard. From there they will make their way to the gallery building and another lobby. By then I’d be surprised if they had any energy left for the art. What they’ll need is a drink.

The desire to draw out the experience — which is meant to intensify it, but paradoxically ends up sapping it of life — continues inside the gallery building.

While the floor plan here is basically the same as in the original, Mr. Williams and Ms. Tsien have inserted new spaces into the sequence of rooms: a reading room, a classroom and a sunken garden court to allow visitors to take a break from the art. This has become a fashionable strategy in contemporary museum buildings. It was originally intended to combat “museum fatigue” and follows the notion that viewing room after room of paintings makes it harder to experience them fully.

But these added spaces also interrupt the sense of immersion that is so critical to enjoying art. The reading room feels especially out of place. In a model of the design, it is flanked by narrow corridors and looks a bit like leftover storage space. (The architects acknowledge that they have not fully resolved the room’s design.) And the Barnes’s intimate scale — it has only 24 gallery rooms — makes the point of such a space questionable.

To be sure, not all of the architecture here is so tortured. Mr. Williams and Ms. Tsien are known for their deft use of materials and they have invested a great deal of time in the feel of the individual spaces. The exterior of the building will be clad in gorgeous limestone from the Negev Desert, with a rough texture and creamy color that seem imbued with the weight of human history. Some of the panels will project out slightly, evoking the haunting forms of a Rachel Whiteread sculpture.

The main court, conceived as the museum’s social heart, will be paved in dark hardwood and look out onto a garden terrace. The architects hope eventually to connect the terrace to the Rodin Museum a short walk to the east, a nice idea that would strengthen the relationship between the museum and the park that surrounds it.

But even here the design seems somewhat strained. The stone panels are set in stainless-steel frames with occasional bronze accents, a system similar to the one that Richard Meier used at the Getty and that looks more and more fussy each time I go back to see it.

And a gigantic light bar that hovers over the main courtyard and projects from the end of the building feels like overkill: its translucent form, which will be lighted up at night, is nearly as big as the gallery building itself.

Still, the biggest problem with the design is not the fault of the architects: it has to do with the public the museum will serve. Part of the beauty of the Barnes Foundation is that it is so far removed from the tourist economy that drives major cities today. To get to it, visitors have to make an appointment, then take a train or a car to Merion, a half-hour from Philadelphia. These steps put you in a certain frame of mind by the time you arrive: they build anticipation and demand a certain commitment. They also serve as a kind of screening system, discouraging the kind of visitors who are just looking for a way to kill time.

The new Barnes is after a different kind of audience. Although museum officials say that the existing limits on crowd size will be kept (albeit with extended hours), it is clearly meant to draw bigger numbers and more tourist dollars. For most visitors the relationship to the art will feel less immediate.

And this, alas, is a problem no architect could have solved.

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Eigenwelt Oct 6, 2009 2:15 PM

If the PMA is the great Greek Garage, this is the Impressionist Slots Barn.

I've seen Walmarts with a greater sense of class and stripmalls with better perdestrian routing.

It has a vehicular roundabout facing the parkway (which discharges passengers onto a blank wall) and the main entrace is ON THE BACK, FACING THE PARKING LOT.

theWatusi Oct 6, 2009 2:38 PM

This is what we've been waiting for? :yuck::yuck:

hammersklavier Oct 6, 2009 7:14 PM

I am highly underwhelmed!

Swinefeld Oct 6, 2009 7:31 PM

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Originally Posted by hammersklavier (Post 4492513)
I am highly underwhelmed!

Ditto.


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