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zahav Jul 19, 2019 10:50 PM

I wonder if Airbus is expecting any breaks/investment from levels of government before confirming the plans for hiring? Bombardier sure did, but not sure if Airbus is OK going it on their own

thenoflyzone Jul 19, 2019 11:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zahav (Post 8636976)
I wonder if Airbus is expecting any breaks/investment from levels of government before confirming the plans for hiring? Bombardier sure did, but not sure if Airbus is OK going it on their own

It’s a federal election year. You can bet your ass the federal government will pitch in and PR the shit out of it in Quebec, where this election will be won/lost, as far as I’m concerned.

zahav Jul 20, 2019 2:02 AM

You are probably right on both counts! This election is definitely looking like an uphill battle for the Liberals, so yes they will probably appeal hard to Quebec (they will likely not even bother trying in Alberta, conversely). If the Cons do get elected, I feel like they will be less likely to extend many breaks to companies like Airbus in Quebec

kwoldtimer Jul 20, 2019 12:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thenoflyzone (Post 8637004)
It’s a federal election year. You can bet your ass the federal government will pitch in and PR the shit out of it in Quebec, where this election will be won/lost, as far as I’m concerned.

When was the last time there was a major manufacturing investment in Canada that didn't include government investment? It has become perishingly rare.

hollywoodcory Jul 22, 2019 2:58 PM

WS updated its winter schedule yesterday, mostly with frequency and aircraft changes.

Lots of 7M8 sun flying so we’ll see about that.

YYC-CDG gets a earlier resumption date as well, resuming in March instead of May.

EDIT: Here’s the press release: http://westjet.mediaroom.com/2019-07...inter-schedule

YYCguys Jul 22, 2019 3:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hollywoodcory (Post 8638402)
WS updated its winter schedule...YYC-CDG gets a earlier resumption date as well, resuming in March instead of May.

Interesting that YYC-DUB wasn’t moved up at the same time.

hollywoodcory Jul 23, 2019 1:52 PM

YYC June stats are out. International again had the largest bump by a long shot. Max 8 grounding probably had an effect on domestic growth.

Domestic: 1,102,225 +1.1%
Transborder: 305,217 +5.9%
International: 154,164 +22.1%
June Total: 1,561,606 +3.8%
2019 total: 8,590,407 +4.48%

https://www.yyc.com/en-us/media/fact...tatistics.aspx

Quote:

Originally Posted by YYCguys (Post 8638404)
Interesting that YYC-DUB wasn’t moved up at the same time.

I don't think they have enough 787s to move both up.

In March, they'll be operating:
1x daily YYZ-LGW
4x Weekly YYC-LGW
5x Weekly YYC-OGG
and now 3x Weekly YYC-CDG.

I think there's some YYC-YYZ rotations thrown in there as well.

zahav Jul 23, 2019 8:41 PM

Interesting this press release was one of the first I can recall from WS to really mention hubs specifically as part of growth. Usually the language is a little more subtle (ie. "connecting Alberta more than ever" or "Enhancing service for the East"). But not usually so overtly calling out hubs. Almost sounds more like an AC release, who don't really beat around the bush with their language about hubs. This is from the press release, bolding is mine:

Frequency increases to popular domestic, transborder and international destinations from airline's hubs in Calgary, Vancouver and Toronto

CALGARY, July 22, 2019 /CNW/ - As part of its 2019/2020 seasonal winter schedule, today WestJet announced increased frequency and improved connectivity from its hubs to more destinations across its network.

WestJet's seasonal schedule for winter 2019/2020 features more flights from Calgary, Vancouver and Toronto to domestic, transborder, international and sun destinations and includes WestJet's seasonal service to both Paris and Nashville from Calgary, commencing earlier than past years on March 12 (Paris) and March 16 (Nashville). WestJet's popular daily summer seasonal service between Calgary and Portland (PDX) will also extend through winter.

"By executing on our hub strategy, we're improving schedules not only for guests in Calgary, Vancouver, and Toronto, but also building thousands of new connections for guests across the country," said Arved von zur Muehlen, WestJet Chief Commercial Officer. "This winter Canadians have more flights and better access to popular leisure and business destinations and will benefit from schedule improvements, frequency increases and improved connectivity across our growing global network."

Renn Jul 24, 2019 12:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SpongeG (Post 8629384)
missed this just heard about it today

Boeing admits falsifying documents of Air Canada Dreamliner?

CLÉMENT CHARPENTREAU

Among the reports that the U.S. Department of Justice is starting to investigate the production of the Boeing 787 Dreamliner, a specific manufacturing incident involving the aircraft has come to light. Boeing seemingly admitted that some documents regarding a Dreamliner sold to Air Canada had been falsified. That same plane experienced an oil leak, after ten months of service.

On June 29, 2019, Boeing sent a statement to CBC News where it admitted the falsification of several certificates of the 787 Dreamliner, registered C-GHPQ, which was the first to be delivered to Air Canada. After only ten months of service, the aircraft was affected by an incident.

On February 10, 2015, the Air Canada Boeing 787 registered was performing flight AC-3 from Vancouver, Canada to Tokyo Narita, Japan, when "the pilot [received] oil indicators from one of the engines," according to Air Canada spokesman Peter Fitzpatrick. The plane diverted to Anchorage, Alaska, and a new aircraft was dispatched to take the passengers to Narita.

...

https://www.aerotime.aero/clement.ch...ada-dreamliner

see also: Seattle Times: DOJ's Boeing investigation expands to 787 Dreamliner

Caroline Kelly
By Caroline Kelly, CNN


https://www.cnn.com/2019/06/28/polit...ner/index.html

Oh man, how much trouble is Boeing in these days? It's unbelievable that they're wrapped up in so much scandal now. I always believed that they were among the best in the world, but it seems that they've been shady behind the scenes.

Wpg_Guy Jul 24, 2019 1:27 AM

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begratto Jul 24, 2019 1:17 PM

Montreal Trudeau - YUL April stats are (finally!) out :

April : 1,567,444 +5.5%
- Domestic : 565,166 +5.2%
- International : 627,223 +8.3%
- Transborder : 375,055 +1.8%

YTD : 6,244,939 +6.3%
- Domestic : 2,079,822 +3.1%
- International : 2,688,378 +10.8%
- Transborder : 1,476,739 +3.1%

Source

Dominion301 Jul 24, 2019 1:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zahav (Post 8639816)
Interesting this press release was one of the first I can recall from WS to really mention hubs specifically as part of growth. Usually the language is a little more subtle (ie. "connecting Alberta more than ever" or "Enhancing service for the East"). But not usually so overtly calling out hubs. Almost sounds more like an AC release, who don't really beat around the bush with their language about hubs. This is from the press release, bolding is mine:

Frequency increases to popular domestic, transborder and international destinations from airline's hubs in Calgary, Vancouver and Toronto

CALGARY, July 22, 2019 /CNW/ - As part of its 2019/2020 seasonal winter schedule, today WestJet announced increased frequency and improved connectivity from its hubs to more destinations across its network.

WestJet's seasonal schedule for winter 2019/2020 features more flights from Calgary, Vancouver and Toronto to domestic, transborder, international and sun destinations and includes WestJet's seasonal service to both Paris and Nashville from Calgary, commencing earlier than past years on March 12 (Paris) and March 16 (Nashville). WestJet's popular daily summer seasonal service between Calgary and Portland (PDX) will also extend through winter.

"By executing on our hub strategy, we're improving schedules not only for guests in Calgary, Vancouver, and Toronto, but also building thousands of new connections for guests across the country," said Arved von zur Muehlen, WestJet Chief Commercial Officer. "This winter Canadians have more flights and better access to popular leisure and business destinations and will benefit from schedule improvements, frequency increases and improved connectivity across our growing global network."

Yes indeed. Embedded deep in the press release are three non-hub routes, namely reannouncing the YYJ sun route and one-liners about YOW-RSW increasing to 2x weekly and YEG-YXE increasing by 5x weekly (assume this means an extra weekday rotation).

Dominion301 Jul 24, 2019 1:55 PM

Flair's winter 2019-20 schedule is 100% domestic:

https://westernaviationnews.com/2019...ada-2019-2020/

Quote:

The busiest route will be between Edmonton and Vancouver, with 11 weekly departures, and several other routes will see daily service. Kelowna remains in the schedule with 4 weekly flights to Edmonton, while Halifax has been dropped for the winter.

While most of Flair’s routes are point-to-point, one so-called milk run remains in the schedule. Four times a week, Flair flight 134 will depart Abbotsford en route to Toronto, with stops in Calgary and Winnipeg, a total flying time of seven hours.
Still no sign of Flair wanting to serve those small central Canada outposts Ottawa and Montreal and their combined 5.5 million population.

Wise of them though to be very conservative this winter and to drop YHZ seasonally as YHZ's traffic drops by up to 40% in the dead of winter.

thenoflyzone Jul 24, 2019 10:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by begratto (Post 8640312)
Montreal Trudeau - YUL April stats are (finally!) out :

April : 1,567,444 +5.5%
- Domestic : 565,166 +5.2%
- International : 627,223 +8.3%
- Transborder : 375,055 +1.8%

YTD : 6,244,939 +6.3%
- Domestic : 2,079,822 +3.1%
- International : 2,688,378 +10.8%
- Transborder : 1,476,739 +3.1%

Source

April numbers have been out for a while. I posted them on here on June 4. It's May and June we are waiting for bud !

But I like your enthusiasm ! :cheers:

begratto Jul 25, 2019 3:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thenoflyzone (Post 8640939)
April numbers have been out for a while. I posted them on here on June 4. It's May and June we are waiting for bud !

But I like your enthusiasm ! :cheers:

Oops! 😬

SpongeG Jul 25, 2019 7:40 AM

Boeing says it might have to shut down 737 Max production

New York (CNN Business)Boeing CEO Dennis Muilenburg warned investors Wednesday that the company might need to further slow or temporarily halt its 737 Max production.

Boeing has continued to build the 737 Max, its bestselling jet, although at a slower pace. The plane has been grounded since mid-March because of two fatal crashes that killed more than 300 people.

...

https://www.cnn.com/2019/07/24/busin...oss/index.html

SpongeG Jul 25, 2019 10:00 PM

Boeing’s 737 Max jets grounded until at least October, forcing Air Canada, WestJet to juggle flight schedules

Bruce Campion-Smith
By Bruce Campion-SmithOttawa Bureau
Wed., July 24, 2019



OTTAWA—Boeing expects its 737 Max jets to remain grounded until October as it continues to work with regulators to fix a design problem blamed for two fatal crashes and warns that it may have to halt production of the aircraft if the grounding drags on.

Boeing executives raised the prospect of halting production Wednesday as the aerospace manufacturer posted a second-quarter loss of $3.4 billion (U.S.), its worst-ever quarterly showing.

The worldwide grounding of the aircraft in March has stretched longer than expected and Boeing executives admitted Wednesday that even their latest timeline to resume operations is dogged with uncertainty.

...

https://www.thestar.com/business/201...schedules.html

thenoflyzone Jul 25, 2019 11:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SpongeG (Post 8642009)
Boeing’s 737 Max jets grounded until at least October, forcing Air Canada, WestJet to juggle flight schedules

Bruce Campion-Smith
By Bruce Campion-SmithOttawa Bureau
Wed., July 24, 2019



OTTAWA—Boeing expects its 737 Max jets to remain grounded until October as it continues to work with regulators to fix a design problem blamed for two fatal crashes and warns that it may have to halt production of the aircraft if the grounding drags on.

Boeing executives raised the prospect of halting production Wednesday as the aerospace manufacturer posted a second-quarter loss of $3.4 billion (U.S.), its worst-ever quarterly showing.

The worldwide grounding of the aircraft in March has stretched longer than expected and Boeing executives admitted Wednesday that even their latest timeline to resume operations is dogged with uncertainty.

...

https://www.thestar.com/business/201...schedules.html

highly unlikely the plane will fly at all in 2019.

Djeffery Jul 26, 2019 1:17 AM

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Originally Posted by thenoflyzone (Post 8642076)
highly unlikely the plane will fly at all in 2019.

I wonder how much confidence the flying public is going to have in this thing even when it does come back into service?

FlyYOW Jul 26, 2019 1:32 AM

I believe that's passive aggression on the part of Boeing. Making that statement is a means of pressuring the FAA for an approval.


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