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casper Apr 10, 2018 12:47 AM

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Originally Posted by DrNest (Post 8148338)
There's plans to link T1 and T3 with a continuous building between the two. And also add another hammerhead pier to the south east of the current international pier. It can come soon enough. Pearson desperately needs more gates. Far too many aircraft are being parked as gate holds on the taxiways waiting for their gate to come open.

What is desperately needed in Toronto is to do something about that T1 gate area used for small regional flights to the US. That place is sub-par in every way compared to virtually every other aspect of the airport.

Reactivation of the infield terminal would also be a positive. Send the international charter flights over there.

thenoflyzone Apr 10, 2018 10:37 AM

Now we know what that 767 on YYC-NRT is doing next winter.

https://www.routesonline.com/news/38...-round-in-w18/

esquire Apr 10, 2018 3:15 PM

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Originally Posted by casper (Post 8148561)
What is desperately needed in Toronto is to do something about that T1 gate area used for small regional flights to the US. That place is sub-par in every way compared to virtually every other aspect of the airport.

Reactivation of the infield terminal would also be a positive. Send the international charter flights over there.

Agreed on both fronts. The transborder area at YYZ is an embarrassment.

I'm guessing that the international charters probably don't contribute much to overall congestion at YYZ but if it would make a difference, reviving the infield terminal for that purpose would make sense.

To isaidso's point above, T1 worked best when it was new and had some excess capacity... now it just feels cramped and congested just about all the time. There was a time when the international pier had room to spread out a bit even in the evening peak departure hours. These days it's just an absolute beehive filled with people. It's hard to find a seat at the gate or in the lounge. The passenger experience is starting to deteriorate a bit... YYZ T1 has gone from being a pleasure (as it was in the 2000s) to another thing you just have to endure.

DrNest Apr 10, 2018 3:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by casper (Post 8148561)
What is desperately needed in Toronto is to do something about that T1 gate area used for small regional flights to the US. That place is sub-par in every way compared to virtually every other aspect of the airport.

That area is purportedly where the new pier is going to be built. I agree, it's an unfriendly mess at present.

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Originally Posted by casper (Post 8148561)
Reactivation of the infield terminal would also be a positive. Send the international charter flights over there.

The infield terminal is problematic for getting passengers to and from. Although it has landside access from Midfield Road, there is no where for parking. Busing plane loads of passengers over from T1/T3 isn't a great experience either. I could see it being used for something like Sunwing with point-to-point flights. But really it's a no-go for any airline that will have connecting passengers.

esquire Apr 10, 2018 3:44 PM

^ That's why putting the charters there makes sense... the passengers don't have same airline/alliance connections.

casper Apr 10, 2018 3:51 PM

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Originally Posted by DrNest (Post 8149160)
That area is purportedly where the new pier is going to be built. I agree, it's an unfriendly mess at present.



The infield terminal is problematic for getting passengers to and from. Although it has landside access from Midfield Road, there is no where for parking. Busing plane loads of passengers over from T1/T3 isn't a great experience either. I could see it being used for something like Sunwing with point-to-point flights. But really it's a no-go for any airline that will have connecting passengers.

I would say send AirTransat and Sunwing. Basically any international flight that is on an airline that does not interline with anyone. Some of the others like WOW or Azores may also work over there.

That opens up gate space in the international departure area.

chris Apr 11, 2018 4:57 AM

When will Sherbrooke, QC see commercial air service?

ghYHZ Apr 11, 2018 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by chris (Post 8150281)
When will Sherbrooke, QC see commercial air service?

I remember that for awhile back in the late ‘70s…..Bar Harbor Airlines offered service to Boston from Sherbrooke.

https://aeroemploi.ca/entreprises/16...-de-sherbrooke

davidivivid Apr 11, 2018 12:21 PM

From june 29 to september 8, Westjet will offer a direct flight between Calgary and Quebec City four times a week with a Boeing 737.

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WestJet offrira des vols Québec-Calgary cet été

Les voyageurs de Québec pourront gagner plus facilement l’ouest canadien par la voie des airs. WestJet a annoncé mardi l’ajout de plusieurs vols directs de l’aéroport international Jean-Lesage vers celui de Calgary pendant la haute saison touristique.

Du 29 juin au 8 septembre, les avions de WestJet feront la navette quatre fois par semaine dans chaque direction. Du 8 septembre au 26 octobre, la fréquence passera à trois vols hebdomadaires. La compagnie parle de vols en «édition limitée».

Les vols seront assurés par des appareils de type Boeing 737 d’une capacité de 150 à 190 sièges. L’avion décollera de Québec à 17h30 pour un vol de 4 heures et 41 minutes. Le retour de Calgary se fera en avant-midi.

[...]
https://www.lesoleil.com/actualite/w...88ed2a131fa588

MonctonRad Apr 11, 2018 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by chris (Post 8150281)
When will Sherbrooke, QC see commercial air service?

Interesting thought. Is there any possibility that Sherbrooke could be considered as a potential low cost hub for no frills airlines (and charters) like Abbotsford and Hamilton???

MonctonRad Apr 11, 2018 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by davidivivid (Post 8150405)
From june 29 to september 8, Westjet will offer a direct flight between Calgary and Quebec City four times a week with a Boeing 737.



https://www.lesoleil.com/actualite/w...88ed2a131fa588

I would not have considered this to be a natural route-pair, but I hope this does well.......

p_xavier Apr 11, 2018 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by MonctonRad (Post 8150420)
I would not have considered this to be a natural route-pair, but I hope this does well.......

The two most conservative cities in Canada?

wave46 Apr 11, 2018 1:01 PM

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Originally Posted by MonctonRad (Post 8150420)
I would not have considered this to be a natural route-pair, but I hope this does well.......

I could see this as Westjet's way of trying to break into the Quebec market more. Quebec is one of the weakest markets for Westjet.

le calmar Apr 11, 2018 1:14 PM

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Originally Posted by chris (Post 8150281)
When will Sherbrooke, QC see commercial air service?

Connections to Burlington VT were considered a few years ago, not sure if it is still planned (as far as I know it looks dead in the water but perhaps lio could enlighten us).

thenoflyzone Apr 11, 2018 2:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by davidivivid (Post 8150405)
From june 29 to september 8, Westjet will offer a direct flight between Calgary and Quebec City four times a week with a Boeing 737.



https://www.lesoleil.com/actualite/w...88ed2a131fa588

Service is until October 26, albeit at 3x weekly between Sept 8 and October 26. That french presser does mention the possibility of WS extending the service into the winter season, if the skiers support the route.

Official presser in english.

https://www.westjet.com/en-ca/travel...102018:twitter

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Originally Posted by MonctonRad (Post 8150417)
Interesting thought. Is there any possibility that Sherbrooke could be considered as a potential low cost hub for no frills airlines (and charters) like Abbotsford and Hamilton???

No.

Short runway, no real infrastructure to handle the influx of several 737s/A320s, and most importantly, far from Montreal (and Quebec City), compared to Abbotsford and Hamilton, which are both much closer to Vancouver and Toronto, respectively.

If montreal will have a no frills airport, it will be YHU. Not YSC. Even with YHU, there is a slim chance of that happening in the short-medium term, but at least they have plans to build a terminal building. So it`s a good start.

Even YMX has a greater chance of being a no frills airport compared to YSC. A terminal building would be needed, obviously. But let's not reopen that can of worms !

Cage Apr 11, 2018 7:25 PM

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Originally Posted by wave46 (Post 8150435)
I could see this as Westjet's way of trying to break into the Quebec market more. Quebec is one of the weakest markets for Westjet.

This is WestJet soaking up excess idle capacity in their system. Basically ripping apart the couch looking for spare change.

I would hazard a guess there are 1 of 2 possibilities.
(1) WS held back transcon flying in case an ULCC unexpectedly started operations.
(2) WS is finding their max8 introduction to be going better than expected. They can deploy extra capacity immediately.

zahav Apr 11, 2018 8:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Cage (Post 8150966)
This is WestJet soaking up excess idle capacity in their system. Basically ripping apart the couch looking for spare change.

I would hazard a guess there are 1 of 2 possibilities.
(1) WS held back transcon flying in case an ULCC unexpectedly started operations.
(2) WS is finding their max8 introduction to be going better than expected. They can deploy extra capacity immediately.

I agree, adding YXU-YVR is definitely just a way to soak up excess capacity. But still, WSroute planners would have numerous city pairs to choose from and other existing routes they could deploy "spare" aircraft on, so they would've had some figures to back up these additions. But I am jealous YYC got YQB lol I hope AC Rouge adds YVR-YQB as part of their proposed increase in Canadian flying :)

Zmonkey Apr 12, 2018 4:36 PM

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Originally Posted by davidivivid (Post 8150405)
From june 29 to september 8, Westjet will offer a direct flight between Calgary and Quebec City four times a week with a Boeing 737.



https://www.lesoleil.com/actualite/w...88ed2a131fa588

And still no one wants to take a stab at Quebec city - Moncton??

(OK maybe I want it since I had to that flight a ton a few years ago for work and annoyed me I had to connect in Montreal).

Good move for Westjet to feed the Calgary Hub, cruise ships have picked up a lot out of Quebec city and to me still the most gorgeous city in the country.

Makes it much easier for people in Quebec city to head to the Rockies or BC.

240glt Apr 13, 2018 6:11 PM

Okanagan-based airline expands route network
Flair Air announces more routes effective June 15

Canada’s only operating low-fare airline is expanding its route network that will more than double its flight service, offering affordable airfares.

Kelowna-based Flair Airlines will begin flying from Halifax, Saskatoon, Calgary, Prince George, and Victoria on June 15.

Earlier growth projections have been realized with this announcement by the airline, with seven aircraft in scheduled service

https://www.vernonmorningstar.com/ne...route-network/

Coldrsx Apr 13, 2018 7:07 PM

^indeed. Great to see more expansion out of Edmonton.


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