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YYZ-LHR down to 3x daily YYC-PDX gone YYC-LAX removed in May??? Down to 1x daily otherwise YYC-EWR resumes in May, but IAH in July? (Seems rather odd). |
Looks like Rouge will be gone completely from YVR, with the last holdout route to LAS switching to mainline. They had never been big at YVR, and all the sun routes switched back to mainline years ago, but LAS was still. Now it's mainline 737 max, which is pretty much dominant on every non-Jazz route out of YVR, other than widebodies.
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Also, if you are rooting for YVR (which i don't know if you are) then you would be against any ULCC as they will take away flights via YVR to all those small communities you mention. Saskatoon-Victoria no longer needs to be flown via YVR for example not that that route even exists now but you get my point. |
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My point is the ULCC are bad for communities when they start to cause the AC, WS or DL of the world to reduce flights into those communities. As an example, YXE is better off having multiple YYC, YVR, YYZ and MSP flights per day that start to lose these in favor ULCC point-to-point service. It is more important that YXE has a flight to Vancouver that connects with the mid day bank of flights to Asia and the late evening bank to Australia than a non-stop to Victoria. Those are likely going to be 75 seat flights with maybe 20% making connections overseas. AC and WS are not going to operate those flights because it is good for the YXE business community it is going to operate them because they sell seats. A MAX8 on YXE-YYJ by Flair if successful will divert what 180 passengers off the core network route. That is a massive hit and will likely cause fewer flights and less connection options for YXE passengers through YYC and YVR. YVR will do fine. I am not concerned with maximizing the number of passengers at any one airport. YVR and YYC have the scale that support ULCC without issue. A good example is Abbotsford Airport. That serves the Fraser Valley. If you Cascadia Aerospace, your corporates offices are Halifax. Your customers when they fly in they are coming from various cities in the US, Mexico, Canada and Central America. The Swoop and Flair flights are mostly useless, they just go to where you do business. If your doing business in the Fraser Valley your more likely to have to drive to Vancouver or Seattle to catch a business flight. If it were not for the ULCC there would be more AC and WS options with onward connections. Perhaps even an Alaska flight through SEA. |
I never thought of using Rouge, I only ever heard negative things about it, and not worth saving a few bucks for.
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I wish Air Canada all the best in its endeavor to have Rouge based out east. May it stay west of the Rockies for good. |
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AC Rouge will also be operating Calgary YYC- YQB a few times weekly too this Summer (seasonally). |
It looks like United Airlines Edmonton YEG- Denver US, route is on track to resume in June 2022 1x daily & operated by Embraer 175 plane ✈️.
Also UA has pushed back YEG to Houston IAH flight route to end of October 2022 by the looks of it too. |
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The seat pitch is so tight you can't move, and I ended up with an inflamed knee (bursitis acted up). I was limping all week in San Diego. It was not fun. I will actively go out of my way to never fly Rouge again......... |
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We need ULCCs in Canada and they were the first legitimate company to step up to offer that service and (surprise, surprise) there has been a strong demand for that, even if it's just point-to-point. For instance, 5 years ago my only option to fly YEG - YKF was through WS and they'd charge at least $400 RT, but now with Flair operating that route as well I can fly that for under $150, which is awesome. |
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Capacity for the "WestJet Group" on the route will essentially be unchanged with 5x weekly peak season 189 seats 738 service vs daily 73G on mainline. |
Interesting to see a lot of the capacity increases on AC for S22 earlier this year removed. Looks like travel won't return to normal until next winter.
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Air Canada has Edmonton YEG- San Francisco SFO route scheduled to resume in May 2022 & operating to end of October (seasonal) currently by the looks of it.
Operated by AC CRJ900 plane ✈️. Basically AC has responded to Swoop Airlines move to fly YEG- SFO (seasonally). And not too surprising. Good see Flair getting competition on YEG- SFO route, with AC & Swoop flying it too this Summer. |
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In fact, the only A220 flight scheduled for YVR for S22 is one daily YVR-YEG. For long-thin routes, AC currently opt for sub-daily 7M8 from YVR rather than daily 220. |
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Now AC's slot usage is down to 82%. They can cut 1 more flight and still meet the 70% minimum. Wonder if YVR/YUL flight is up next... Currently the second daily flight from YUL is scheduled with 788, and YVR with 789. 788 was fully removed from YVR schedule except DUB that rotates with the YUL flight. All other 788 flights from YVR were upgraded to 789. |
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Also Edmonton’s KLM flights won’t be consolidated with Calgary YYC anymore as of March 27 2022.
That means Edmonton YEG passengers will be key to fill the A330 on KLM 3x weekly nonstops Tuesdays, Thursdays and Saturdays for YEG- Amsterdam flights this Summer for it to be successful/has demand. |
That's our most important flight right now and absolutely great to see.
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