Im so confused by this whole huge project, which renderings are correct and where the hell can I see a correct design for this whole area?
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I tend to dislike box designs, I'll be completely honest about that. I thoroughly dislike 432 Park Ave, even after watching it grow from its infancy, it has yet to grow on me. It has a very impressive width to height ratio, but that's all it has going for it. Same goes with the Twin Towers, rip. In my opinion, boxy designs are a travesty to NYC's skyline. A city that became famous due to its set backs and spires deserves better. Call me a hater, but this redesign is disgusting. I loved the previous one, it wasn't original but it was definitely sexy. |
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which can be risky (see the Tower Verre). But at least here, while the lower portion always looked to work into that grid, Childs has more Freedom to work the design. He's cut loose with so many variations already. But also remember he's working for Related, and Stephen Ross will live at the top of this tower. Related's home offices will also be here. Quote:
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The fourth, in Hudson Yards, is actually pretty atypical and anti-urban for NYC standards. And I never said every single building in NYC is a box, or that boxes can't have variety. Quote:
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Besides, if an overdue amount of deference were in fact given to non-boxy designs, can you imagine how many street wall purists would be up in arms over the multitudes of insults done to the visual continuity of said street grid?
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One more quick example:
Aside from the One57, which is essentially a rectangular-derivative plot shaped in such a way as NYC zoning, together with extremely resourceful development tactics, allowed for that specific area... ...What say ye about BofA? Certainly no one here would call it a box. Yet the parcel of land built on it is perfectly rectilinear, therefore constraining the preconstruction dimensions of the building to that of...well... ...a box. How paraboxical ;) is that?? |
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I wouldn't call BofA a box, but it is very fat. I would have preferred something a little more streamlined, which would have given it more height. The bulkiness of it makes it a little stubby. Not exactly a box, due to its angular design, but still fits within the grid. |
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I can't say the same looking down 42nd, though. |
When I said box designs, I meant buildings that carried the box design from the base all the way to the top. I had an inkling my explanation was going to be misconstrued, so I'm clearing it up.
Crawford, you certainly played around with my statements on this lol. |
Even BofA fits in and is aligned with the grid. However, its the sheer bulkiness of the form that leans more towards boxiness. No, its not really a box.
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^ That building in the foreground is practically worthy of it's own thread.
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Where is Neiman-Marcus going to be?
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How much excavation does this tower need?
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