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Redeployment of aircraft where they can be better utilized and/or make more money. Additionally, regional airlines are being squeezed by a pilot shortage and are having to cut routes.
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At least YWG is isolated. YYJ and YQB arent, with YVR and YUL a stone's throw away. Then again, isolation didn't save YYT... |
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Yeah, I don't know if Winnipeg will hold on to service by UA given that.
I mean, we have one of the largest Star Alliance hubs in the world about 2.5 hours to the right, so that's part of the problem. |
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I've used ORD for connections to the US, Europe and Asia and I think it's a great alternative to have access to... losing that one additional consumer option would hurt. |
Brutal. The loss of YXE-DEN really hurt me. What a shame for connectivity of Canadian cities...too bad that no Canadian airlines are stepping up to the plate and replacing these services. AC seems to be more focused on its international business - maybe WJ?
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Delta is coming to YYJ with a Seattle flight in addition to Alaska. Going to the US I always find YVR and YYC make better connecting airports that the US airports. |
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YXU will always have trouble competing with some of the other airports and other options for medium range travel. |
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Maybe we can keep one of the destinations though - I'd be happy with that for sure. |
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YYC is not a great airport to transfer at. Primary reason is the security people. They insist on not letting you in until an hour or two before your connecting flight. The problem applies on both security going into domestic and security going into the US. Still much better that connecting in Seattle from a non-preclearance airport. Flying Alaska through Seattle from YYJ you arrive, US customers can be quick or take an hour or more. Then US security then one people mover, then another people mover then you get close to your gate. |
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All Air Canada rouge service. |
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I would agree there are more choices for connecting flights in Seattle if you heading to smaller centers in the US. For me my US destinations are almost always Las Vegas, Chicago, New York, San Francisco and the odd time Miami. |
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Although 2015 passenger figures aren't yet readily available, Pearson regularly has more passenger movements a year than Seattle too. |
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SEA = 42,340,537 YYZ = 41,036,847 Now considering that YYZ is has much higher International numbers than SEA, and that SEA is mostly domestic US traffic - in the context of someone connecting from YYJ via SEA or YVR, to further US destinations...SEA has way more US airports (and frequencies) covered! This was my only point, I just used the size of SEA in comparison to YYZ for a Canadian perspective. YVR has improved with the additions of a few new US destinations, but it cannot hope to match SEA with their Delta&Alaska hubs plus United/American/Southwest/JetBlue etc. and an airport with 40million PAX + a year. https://www.portseattle.org/About/Pu...s/default.aspx http://www.torontopearson.com/upload...er_Summary.pdf |
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Smaller US centres? In addition to the US metros you mention, SEA has non-stop service to: Philadelphia, Detroit, Boston, Hartford, St. Louis, Kansas City, Milwaukee, Tampa Bay, Washington DC, Atlanta, Baltimore, Charleston SC, Charlotte NC, Nashville, Oklahoma City, New Orleans, Sacramento, Albuquerque, Austin ...and more. ...plus several 'smaller' US centres like Boise, Ft Lauderdale, Fresno, Little Rock, San Antonio etc As a bonus...SEA has connections to secondary airports in large US metros like Dallas Love field / Long Beach, Santa Ana, Burbank & Ontario in the LA area / Chicago Midway and Oakland & San Jose in the greater SF area. I fly to the LA area regularly and I have never set foot in LAX! I am told to avoid it at all costs! Also, I find the flight to SEA from YYJ very quick and always on time with Alaska anyway, have not tried Delta yet. |
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I agree though that CYVR can't (read doesn't) compete with KSEA in terms of US destinations. |
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San Antonio is about the size of metro Vancouver. Plus I lumped Ft Lauderdale in the small centres too - and it has a metro of 5.8 million! :haha: |
I thought it was tomorrow night, but it's tonight I'm picking up people at the airport.
Never bothered tracking a flight before, but I love this site: http://i66.tinypic.com/2q8q34l.png http://flightaware.com/ |
I just can't believe they landed. Their plane must have had the cat 3 landing software to get onto the ground in this foggy mess.
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I was surprised as well. My parents were so relieved. They'd been on the go for almost 24 hours by the time they landed here (Venice-Frankfurt-Toronto-St. John's - with a five-hour layover in Frankfurt, and an hour or so in Toronto).
Dad said he was sitting next to an Air Canada pilot and asked him if he thought they'd be able to land, and he said - as I imagine pilots are likely to do - that it'll be a little while before all pilots are comfortable using it at a new airport, especially a small one. But he said the new system is amazing and with a modern plane, and a comfortable pilot, it should never be an issue to land here April-June again. There were still a lot of cancellations, though. My parents' plane was packed with pissed off people who'd been in Pearson all day trying to get out on cancelled flights. |
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I think it's a distance/supporting the competitor thing. I know plenty of people in Montreal (most coworkers, so the sample randomness is poor) who will do anything to avoid a transfer a YYZ, including taking longer or more expensive flight-plans. I assume that first hop just feels like a waste of time because it's so much time on the ground versus in the air. |
Turkish Airlines is increasing the number of business class seats on their flights to YYZ.... :)
http://www.travelweek.ca/news/connec...ss-travellers/ |
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85% connecting passengers. That's insane. TK can make it work though due to their lower operating costs compared to the European legacies. (30% lower than LH and BA, double that compared to AF) it is a known fact that TK's international network is not profitable. TK uses profits from domestic and European routes to maintain their long-haul network. One thing is for sure, demand to Turkey has dropped. UA came and went, so did Transat. IB is axing MAD-IST, Delta suspended the already seasonal JFK-IST. At least TK can rely on all these connections to fill up their planes. 85% connections, plus an average load factor of 78% to North America. It's not hard to see why yields are trash on TK long haul. I wonder how AC is doing on YYZ-IST. Something tells me it's not high on the list of profitable routes to Europe. In general, it's going to be a tough summer for long haul to Europe ! |
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I go with what ever is the most convenient. Last week I was in Montreal. Given the choice of a Q300 for 10 minutes to YVR and connecting on a A330 or spending 90 minutes in Q400 to reach Calgary and connect onto a narrow body the choice was easy to make. |
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I have only been through Istanbul airport once and that was heading to the city on Air France. I actually found it to be a fairly nice airport. |
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The fact that EK is stuck with 3x weekly is their fault. When Canada settled on 6x weekly, EK complained like a spoiled child and said daily or nothing. Meanwhile Etihad came in and started YYZ at 3x weekly. Had EK been smart, they would have picked up all 6 frequencies and started bitching later. Who knows, they might have already had 9x weekly themselves by now, had they done that. |
Looks like China Southern Airlines have finally received permission for their CAN-YYZ flights. Reservations were opened today for flights, effective Aug 3...
Planned schedule as follows. CZ311 CAN1430 – 1730YYZ 77W x246 CZ312 YYZ0130 – 0500+1CAN 77W x357 http://airlineroute.net/2016/04/25/cz-canyyz-aug16/ |
Winnipeg up 2.86% for Q1 - not great but not bad at the same time:
http://www.winnipegsun.com/2016/04/2...orts-authority |
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That's a long time on the ground in YYZ. I'm assuming they wanted to arrive in YYZ earlier for better connections with WS. The 1:30 am departure from YYZ is pretty standard. CX does the same thing on one of its flights out of Toronto. |
Everyone's favourite source of airline info, Johnny Aussie, put together a great comprehensive list of the changes coming to YVR this summer. Simply put they are massive:
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And Air China double daily for a longer period. Although for two months flights are operated by 332s vs 77Ws. EVA increases from 4 to 5 weekly. Thanks to nname for catching that. |
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Hard to believe that the daily A380 starts next week, sure snuck up fast. I'm out in YVR next week, hopefully I can catch a glimpse while I'm leaving. It's only on the ground for around 2 hours though so that's a tight window. |
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Good news keeps coming for YVR.
YVR-DEL, 3x weekly seasonal on B789, starts October 20, 2016. http://aircanada.mediaroom.com/index.php?s=43&item=1006 Just weird that it's winter seasonal. This means AC/RV will be launching the following intercontinental routes in 2016. Pretty impressive. Althought the timing for all those Eastern European runs from YYZ couldn't be worse. YVR-BNE/DUB/DEL YYZ-PRG/BUD/WAW/LGW/GLA/ICN YUL-CMN/LYS |
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Just booked two flights with Harbour air between YVR and Sechelt. Looking forward to completely avoiding the hell that is traveling through Vancouver to Horseshoe Bay. Cutting down a 3 hr trip at best to 20 mins. Can't wait. Has anybody here used them before?
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Yep, but only from the downtown Vancouver location, not from YVR. Harbour air is fantastic though, very professionally run operation.
Getting to the south terminal can be a bit of a drag, but they have a shuttle that will pick you up and take you there. If you have the time see if you can fly back into the harbour on your return flight then take the Canada line to YVR. On a sunny day it's a pretty spectacular landing, similar to Billy Bishop except you come in even lower and closer. |
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Assuming Air Canada has evaluated correctly new markets going forward, it's shows that smaller ULH wide body aircraft over thin routes allow for many more point to point routes.
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