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chris Nov 3, 2013 8:43 PM

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Originally Posted by CanadianCentaur (Post 6325531)
Frankly, I don't think YQU's growing anywhere near as fast as YMM, simply because Fort Mac's population growth rate is a great deal higher. And of course, the oilsands industry, which is much more developed than in the Peace River area. I don't have any stats available at the moment, but I think YQU is probably serving about half the number of passengers as YMM, or more likely, less than that.

YQU, however, has been extensively renovated back in the late 2000s before the last boom slowed down in 2008. They've installed a new baggage carousel and increased the departure lounge area, but really not a whole lot in terms of actual terminal expansion. Unlike YMM, YQU does not have any jetways. There has been massive growth in the industrial lands just to the east of the airport. One of YQU's runways was planned to be extended to 8500 feet from 6500 feet, but I don't know if that's still in the plans or not.

Thanks for the insight...I knew little of what was going on at YQU. I suppose growth can continue at a higher pace if the region were to land non-stop flights to YVR but until them I guess they'll have to be content with a slower growth rate. What is their rate of growth anyway? 10% per year? 15% per year?

chris Nov 3, 2013 8:56 PM

Found this to be pretty interesting:

http://hqgrandeprairie.com/news/news...nt/fresh_feed/

2012 was another record-breaking year at the Grande Prairie Airport.

Last year 415,634 passengers moved through the facility, representing an 8.3-percent increase in traffic over 2011.

ScreamingViking Nov 3, 2013 8:58 PM

Those terminal pictures of Saskatoon and Fort McMurray really do look great. All the wood in the latter makes for a beautiful and inviting interior. And the higher centre ceiling in Saskatoon's adds a spacious feeling (along with all that daylight)

GlassCity Nov 4, 2013 7:29 AM

Not sure where to post this, so I'll post it here.

For people living in Toronto, it is as popular to fly out of Buffalo as it is here to fly out of Seattle? I assume Buffalo doesn't have as many destinations, but I also assume it's a lot cheaper.

Chadillaccc Nov 4, 2013 7:58 AM

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Originally Posted by SignalHillHiker (Post 6324562)
I've yet to have a truly positive experience with Air Canada. I've been bumped from flights, delayed, without my check-on bag for several days, etc.

Once, when they had to change my flight because they were delayed leaving Winnipeg and I missed my connection in Toronto, the ticket agent asked me if Halifax was close enough and someone could pick me up there. Umm... it's a 1,500 kilometre drive and a 6-hour ferry ride, honey.

Westjet, on the other hand, has been fantastic. I've still encountered some of the same problems - delays, whatever else - but they're helpful and kind instead of entitled and condescending. And they actually let you know what's going on. Once, I was delayed in Winnipeg - we were just sitting on the plane not going anywhere - and the flight attendant announced that the flight was waiting for passengers connecting from B.C. "There's a whole bunch of people on that flight going on to St. John's and if we don't wait, they won't make it home for Christmas Day."

So, instead of being treated like cattle and getting annoyed as has always been the case with Air Canada delays, people were in good spirits, clapped when the connecting passengers got on, etc.

I'd never fly Air Canada again if I can avoid doing so. It's like a caricature of the most negative stereotypes people have about central Canada. I've never seen such a large organization when everyone, consistently, seems to be absolutely miserable, unhappy with their jobs, and annoyed by having to interact with the public.

Jesus! Good thing I have never flown AC just by coincidence.

ericlewis91 Nov 4, 2013 1:38 PM

I just don't get why flying TO to VAN is at least $600??? I would love to travel more in Canada but its so pricy.

The_Architect Nov 4, 2013 3:34 PM

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Originally Posted by GlassCity (Post 6325977)
Not sure where to post this, so I'll post it here.

For people living in Toronto, it is as popular to fly out of Buffalo as it is here to fly out of Seattle? I assume Buffalo doesn't have as many destinations, but I also assume it's a lot cheaper.

A LOT cheaper. Hell, if I can find a flight out of Hamilton or Buffalo I take it over Pearson. Whenever I can get Porter I take that too out of Billy Bishop. I know people who have driven to Detroit to fly out of there.

Also late to the party but I've only ever flown Air Canada twice in my life. Once when I was very young (5 ish) and once a couple years ago to go up to Timmins. The biggest reason: they ALWAYS flag me for no reason at all. Then again, it's very hit and miss with me, a big part of why I hate flying.

eemy Nov 5, 2013 2:47 AM

Count me as another person who has had no problem flying with AC. I've had no problem flying with WS either, but I like AC's seats and IFE better. Best airline I've flown with by far is Canadian North - complimentary booze and hot meals ftw.

Airboy Nov 5, 2013 5:36 AM

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Originally Posted by jeremy_haak (Post 6327156)
Count me as another person who has had no problem flying with AC. I've had no problem flying with WS either, but I like AC's seats and IFE better. Best airline I've flown with by far is Canadian North - complimentary booze and hot meals ftw.

I agree about Canadian north, + First Air.

Policy Wonk Nov 5, 2013 9:28 AM

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Originally Posted by SignalHillHiker (Post 6324562)
Once, when they had to change my flight because they were delayed leaving Winnipeg and I missed my connection in Toronto, the ticket agent asked me if Halifax was close enough and someone could pick me up there. Umm... it's a 1,500 kilometre drive and a 6-hour ferry ride, honey.

Wow, and I was pissed when they insisted I eat a $200 taxi fare to get to another airport so they could switch me from a canceled non-stop flight to a 9.5 hour itinerary connecting in Denver when off the top of my head I could think of about half a dozen better alternatives departing from that airport.

My experiences with Air Canada are generally positive, but when they want to screw me over they pull out all the stops.

WestJet on the other hand has destroyed more luggage than any airline I have ever seen, absolutely astonishing. Apparently their bag smashers aren't "owners".

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8C-e96m4730

MonctonRad Nov 5, 2013 12:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Policy Wonk (Post 6327389)
WestJet on the other hand has destroyed more luggage than any airline I have ever seen, absolutely astonishing. Apparently their bag smashers aren't "owners".

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8C-e96m4730

You actually check your bags!!! :haha:

If you can't live off of carry on luggage for at least a week, then you aren't a real man...... :yes:

SkahHigh Nov 5, 2013 2:11 PM

YUL's six-gate expansion in the International section will start in 2014 and be completed in 2016. Two of them will be able to have wide-body planes such as A-380s. This will bring the number of gates to 19 for the International section.

craneSpotter Nov 5, 2013 3:26 PM

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Originally Posted by SkahHigh (Post 6327483)
YUL's six-gate expansion in the International section will start in 2014 and be completed in 2016. Two of them will be able to have wide-body planes such as A-380s. This will bring the number of gates to 19 for the International section.

How is YUL doing with International/trans-border route expansion?

I see the following announcements for 2013:

San Francisco was bumped by AC to daily year-round
AC up gauged daily service to Paris (458 seater 777-300ER)
Year-round service to Geneva was also up gauged by AC?
Air Algerie increased summer 2013 frequency to Algiers to 6x weekly
Seasonal winter service (13/14) to Aruba & Ixtapa added by SunWing
2014 summer service to Nice and Barcelona are to be added by Rouge.
2014 summer service to Rome will be bumped to daily by AC

Any more?

SkahHigh Nov 5, 2013 8:09 PM

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Originally Posted by craneSpotter (Post 6327576)
How is YUL doing with International/trans-border route expansion?

I see the following announcements for 2013:

San Francisco was bumped by AC to daily year-round
AC up gauged daily service to Paris (458 seater 777-300ER)
Year-round service to Geneva was also up gauged by AC?
Air Algerie increased summer 2013 frequency to Algiers to 6x weekly
Seasonal winter service (13/14) to Aruba & Ixtapa added by SunWing
2014 summer service to Nice and Barcelona are to be added by Rouge.
2014 summer service to Rome will be bumped to daily by AC

Any more?

Nope, all I know is yearly passenger statistics going up to 14 million for YUL.

AuxTown Nov 7, 2013 4:29 AM

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Originally Posted by MonctonRad (Post 6327423)
You actually check your bags!!! :haha:

If you can't live off of carry on luggage for at least a week, then you aren't a real man...... :yes:

Have a kid and try to say that. I went from traveling with a duffle bag to traveling with multiple large suitcases. It's not possible for me to not check bags!

YYCspotter Nov 7, 2013 4:46 AM

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Originally Posted by craneSpotter (Post 6327576)
How is YUL doing with International/trans-border route expansion?

I see the following announcements for 2013:

San Francisco was bumped by AC to daily year-round
AC up gauged daily service to Paris (458 seater 777-300ER)
Year-round service to Geneva was also up gauged by AC?
Air Algerie increased summer 2013 frequency to Algiers to 6x weekly
Seasonal winter service (13/14) to Aruba & Ixtapa added by SunWing
2014 summer service to Nice and Barcelona are to be added by Rouge.
2014 summer service to Rome will be bumped to daily by AC

Any more?

TK to IST 3x weekly A333

MTLskyline Nov 7, 2013 5:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by craneSpotter (Post 6327576)
How is YUL doing with International/trans-border route expansion?

I see the following announcements for 2013:

San Francisco was bumped by AC to daily year-round
AC up gauged daily service to Paris (458 seater 777-300ER)
Year-round service to Geneva was also up gauged by AC?
Air Algerie increased summer 2013 frequency to Algiers to 6x weekly
Seasonal winter service (13/14) to Aruba & Ixtapa added by SunWing
2014 summer service to Nice and Barcelona are to be added by Rouge.
2014 summer service to Rome will be bumped to daily by AC

Any more?

AC press release regarding European flights: http://online.wsj.com/article/PR-CO-...08-908134.html

Air Canada:
YUL-LHR: Aircraft upgauged from Airbus A330-300 to Boeing 777-300ER service featuring new international Premium Economy cabin, in addition to Executive First and expanded Economy cabins, from June 15 -September 30, 2014.

YUL-BRU: Aircraft upgauged from Boeing 767-300ER to Airbus A330-300 service featuring choice of Air Canada Executive First and Economy cabins, from March 29 - October 25, 2014.

YUL-GVA: Aircraft upgauged from Boeing 767-300ER to Airbus A330-300 service year-round featuring choice of Air Canada Executive First and Economy cabins.

YUL-FRA: Addition of a second non-stop flight five times weekly from May 16 - October 12, 2014. The Air Canada codeshare flight will be operated by Star Alliance partner, Lufthansa, and will complement Air Canada's daily Airbus A330-300 year-round non-stop service,

Air Canada Rouge

All Air Canada rouge flights to Europe are operated with Boeing 767-300ER aircraft

YUL-NCE: New three times weekly service from June 5 to October13, 2014, subject to government approval. Departing Montréal on Tuesday, Thursday and Sunday, and from Nice on Monday, Wednesday and Friday.

YUL-BCN: New twice weekly service from June 4 to October 11, 2014, subject to government approval. Departing Montréal on Wednesday and Friday, and from Barcelona on Thursday and Saturday.

YUL-FCO: Up to daily service from May 23 to October 19, 2014.

YUL-ATH: For the summer 2014 season, Air Canada rouge will continue to operate Montreal-Athens after their successful inaugural season in 2013.

A few others announced recently:

British Airways
YUL-LHR: Aircraft upgauged from Boeing 767 to Boeing 777 (a 45% capacity increase)

Air Transat:
YUL-PRG: New weekly service starting June 17.

Sunwing
YUL-AUA: Weekly serivce, Boeing 737.
YUL-FPO: Weekly serivce, Boeing 737.

SkahHigh Nov 7, 2013 1:47 PM

There's also Turkish Airlines with 3 weekly lights for a connection with Istanbul.

halifaxboyns Nov 7, 2013 4:50 PM

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Originally Posted by esquire (Post 6324556)
Agreed. It's a bit ironic that one of Canada's sleekest, most urbane looking air terminals will be in a small city that most people consider to be on the edge of the wild frontier. It's appointed like the lobby of a huge office building... it's a great look and very distinctive.

At first I thought it looked rather small given Fort Mac's explosive growth, but the interior spaces are deceptively cavernous. Very impressive.

The growth of YMM is amazing. I lived up there for a few years and when the first flight to YYZ came; it sold out so fast. I'm amazed to see that now both AC and WJ have two or three flights a day to Toronto. AC has upgauged one of those flights to an A321 on some occasions, which is great!

I think the fact the airport has all that wood in the rough is a good tie in with the fact that YMM is in the middle of the boreal forrest.

SignalHillHiker Nov 13, 2013 4:07 PM

Facebook status update:

St. John's International Airport
Orlando is our #1 U.S. destination but did you know Houston (IAH) is #2? Thanks to our lucrative oil and gas industry, traffic to Houston increased by 74% over the previous year.

craneSpotter Nov 13, 2013 5:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MTLskyline (Post 6330101)
Air Canada:
YUL-LHR: Aircraft upgauged from Airbus A330-300 to Boeing 777-300ER service featuring new international Premium Economy cabin, in addition to Executive First and expanded Economy cabins, from June 15 -September 30, 2014.

YUL-BRU: Aircraft upgauged from Boeing 767-300ER to Airbus A330-300 service featuring choice of Air Canada Executive First and Economy cabins, from March 29 - October 25, 2014.

YUL-GVA: Aircraft upgauged from Boeing 767-300ER to Airbus A330-300 service year-round featuring choice of Air Canada Executive First and Economy cabins.

YUL-FRA: Addition of a second non-stop flight five times weekly from May 16 - October 12, 2014. The Air Canada codeshare flight will be operated by Star Alliance partner, Lufthansa, and will complement Air Canada's daily Airbus A330-300 year-round non-stop service,

Air Canada Rouge

All Air Canada rouge flights to Europe are operated with Boeing 767-300ER aircraft

YUL-NCE: New three times weekly service from June 5 to October13, 2014, subject to government approval. Departing Montréal on Tuesday, Thursday and Sunday, and from Nice on Monday, Wednesday and Friday.

YUL-BCN: New twice weekly service from June 4 to October 11, 2014, subject to government approval. Departing Montréal on Wednesday and Friday, and from Barcelona on Thursday and Saturday.

YUL-FCO: Up to daily service from May 23 to October 19, 2014.

YUL-ATH: For the summer 2014 season, Air Canada rouge will continue to operate Montreal-Athens after their successful inaugural season in 2013.

A few others announced recently:

British Airways
YUL-LHR: Aircraft upgauged from Boeing 767 to Boeing 777 (a 45% capacity increase)

Air Transat:
YUL-PRG: New weekly service starting June 17.

Sunwing
YUL-AUA: Weekly serivce, Boeing 737.
YUL-FPO: Weekly serivce, Boeing 737.

Nice! So you guys should be adding to your 5.25 million+ International passengers per year.

SignalHillHiker Nov 15, 2013 4:16 PM

I'm going. :D

WestJet to go transatlantic with flights to Dublin

Quote:

Calgary-based WestJet is spreading its wings across the Atlantic for the first time with flights to Dublin.

The airline announced on Friday it will start offering daily non-stop service from St. John’s to the Irish capital next June.

The flights will be aboard WestJet's Boeing Next-Generation 737-700 series aircraft.

Daily same-aircraft flights will also be offered from Toronto with one stop-over, as well as daily flights between Ottawa and St. John's connecting to Dublin, the airline said.

And the airline will add connecting flights to Dublin from Ottawa, Halifax, Montreal, Vancouver, Calgary, Edmonton, Winnipeg and other cities in the airline’s network.

One-way flights from St. John’s to Dublin will start at $199.

The service will be seasonal, operating from June 15 to Oct. 15.
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calgar...blin-1.2427850

MTLskyline Nov 15, 2013 6:06 PM

$199 each way for a transatlantic flight! I would guess that it is probably much more expensive to reach mainland Canada than that. Great news for St. John's.

SignalHillHiker Nov 15, 2013 6:17 PM

I don't understand how much of a ticket price is the result of fees, etc., but I've personally never flown to mainland Canada for less than $700 return. It can be done, especially if you book early or are only going to the Maritimes, but it's never happened for me.

isaidso Nov 15, 2013 6:28 PM

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Originally Posted by SignalHillHiker (Post 6340766)
I don't understand how much of a ticket price is the result of fees, etc., but I've personally never flown to mainland Canada for less than $700 return. It can be done, especially if you book early or are only going to the Maritimes, but it's never happened for me.

Looks like it will soon be cheaper for you to fly to Europe than another province in Canada.

SignalHillHiker Nov 15, 2013 6:30 PM

I think the St. John's-London flights are cheaper too. They were really cheap a few times, I remember just hearing chatter from family/friends rushing to head over for a weekend because the deals were so good.

And Porter's St. John's-Halifax flights are cheap. You can get to Halifax and then just buy a flight wherever you're going from there. Once you're off the island, everything is less expensive. Seems unfair, really. When I moved home from Winnipeg, most of the cost of having my belongings shipped home by truck was for the Halifax to St. John's portion. If I had the patience, I would have just met the driver in Hali and did the rest by U-haul. But driving across Newfoundland makes me want to kill myself so I didn't.

Coldrsx Nov 15, 2013 7:18 PM

Hello St. Patrick's day in Dublin

SignalHillHiker Nov 15, 2013 7:28 PM

I'm so glad they picked us. It could have just as easily been any city in the Maritimes. I have such a soft spot for WestJet. They really treat us well. I bet Air Canada wouldn't have picked us. :haha:

esquire Nov 15, 2013 7:53 PM

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Originally Posted by SignalHillHiker (Post 6340886)
I'm so glad they picked us. It could have just as easily been any city in the Maritimes. I have such a soft spot for WestJet. They really treat us well. I bet Air Canada wouldn't have picked us. :haha:

Srsly!? Is Air Canada making you guys by far the smallest city in Canada with a transatlantic flight (to London) not enough?

SignalHillHiker Nov 15, 2013 8:10 PM

Oh it's wonderful to have that flight available. I doubt it'll survive, though. You'll be able to fly to Dublin and back 3-5 times, or more, for what Air Canada wants to fly you from here to London. And, once you're in Europe, you can take RyanAir anywhere for pocket change.

Air Canada's rate is fair - it only costs about what it would to fly a similar distance into mainland Canada. But WestJet's coming out swinging.

As for what's enough/not enough... my displeasure with Air Canada isn't really about things. I hate how expensive air travel is for us generally, but that's not one particular airline's fault. I've just had enough uncomfortable, upsetting experiences with Air Canada - there's just a tone, a fascade, a snobbery... I can't quite explain it. Pretentious, maybe?

esquire Nov 15, 2013 8:31 PM

Fair enough, but remember, the $199 special is the one-time door crasher. They can't sustain that price and it will soon be up to something more reasonable.

Denscity Nov 15, 2013 9:21 PM

Congrats Sig! Now your homeland will be connected to your homeland's homeland.

SignalHillHiker Nov 15, 2013 9:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by esquire (Post 6340989)
Fair enough, but remember, the $199 special is the one-time door crasher. They can't sustain that price and it will soon be up to something more reasonable.

Yeah...

This story has blown up on Facebook like nothing I've seen recently. Sssooo many of my friends are posting about, planning trips, etc. It's really fun to see.

Word spreading in the comments (no idea if there's any shred of truth to it) is that the special price is if you book your flight before Dec. 4. We'll see.

*****

lol Denscity. I can't wait!!! I'll have to go to Waterford. It's Ireland's oldest city, and also the one from which just about every single Irish-heritage family in Newfoundland traces its heritage.

q12 Nov 15, 2013 9:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SignalHillHiker (Post 6340886)
I'm so glad they picked us. It could have just as easily been any city in the Maritimes.

Actually no, they had to pick St. John's due to distance as they can not fly non-stop to europe from Halifax, Montreal or Toronto with a full Boeing 737. This is a test to see if it will be worth it for Westjet to purchase long haul aircraft like Boeing 757, 767 to fly direct from the larger Canadian airports.

http://www.calgaryherald.com/busines...599/story.html

SignalHillHiker Nov 15, 2013 9:31 PM

Right on. I hope it works out for them - and they keep the St. John's-Dublin connection going.

But, wow, the distance between Halifax and St. John's actually makes that much of a difference? It's only 900 km by plane.

q12 Nov 15, 2013 9:39 PM

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Originally Posted by SignalHillHiker (Post 6341116)
Right on. I hope it works out for them - and they keep the St. John's-Dublin connection going.

But, wow, the distance between Halifax and St. John's actually makes that much of a difference? It's only 900 km by plane.

Surprisingly it does. Air Canada has always needed a wide body Boeing 767 to fly to Heathrow from Halifax.

MonctonRad Nov 16, 2013 1:39 AM

Regardless, I think a direct flight from St. John's to Dublin is a natural, especially with the Irish roots in NF.

I wonder if a 737 could make it from St. John's to Glasgow and London too?

casper Nov 16, 2013 4:24 PM

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Originally Posted by MonctonRad (Post 6341364)
Regardless, I think a direct flight from St. John's to Dublin is a natural, especially with the Irish roots in NF.

I wonder if a 737 could make it from St. John's to Glasgow and London too?

The question to ask is this driven by a strong potential market or is this driven by the face WestJet has signed a contract with a company in Dublin to do some work on their aircraft and is going to need to shuttle aircraft to Ireland for maintenance.

http://www.businessandleadership.com...aviation-wins/

Either way it is a positive step. Hopefully they find it profitable and keep the service for the long run.

The flights from Vancouver to Hawaii are probably similar in distance. I am surprised WestJet does not try something similar from Halifax and St Johns with winter flights to the Azores.

SignalHillHiker Nov 16, 2013 4:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by casper (Post 6341778)
The question to ask is this driven by a strong potential market or is this driven by the face WestJet has signed a contract with a company in Dublin to do some work on their aircraft and is going to need to shuttle aircraft to Ireland for maintenance.

http://www.businessandleadership.com...aviation-wins/

Either way it is a positive step. Hopefully they find it profitable and keep the service for the long run.

The flights from Vancouver to Hawaii are probably similar in distance. I am surprised WestJet does not try something similar from Halifax and St Johns with winter flights to the Azores.

Whatever the reason, we'll take it. :D

Just wanted to check the distance out of curiosity.

From St. John's to Dublin: 3300 kilometers.
From Vancouver to Honolulu: 4359 kilometers
From Vancouver to St. John's: 5020 kilometers

craneSpotter Nov 16, 2013 7:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MonctonRad (Post 6341364)
Regardless, I think a direct flight from St. John's to Dublin is a natural, especially with the Irish roots in NF.

I wonder if a 737 could make it from St. John's to Glasgow and London too?

The circle route distance from Halifax to Heathrow is 4600km.

The max (spec) range for a Westjet 737-700 is 6100km with 136 PAX. The max range of their 737-800 is 5600km with 174 PAX. Not sure either would be practical or profitable to Heathrow though?? The 737-700ER has a range of ~10,000km, but I think they seat <150 PAX.

It will be interesting when the 737MAX comes out. Range for a MAX9 should be around 6600km with up to 215 PAX in one class and 180 in two.

SignalHillHiker Nov 16, 2013 8:47 PM

They chose a flight number that's an homage to St. Patrick's Day, one of the most important dates on the calendar in both cities. :D

http://i41.tinypic.com/oqk84y.png

Flying to Vancouver takes approximately 9 hours, so 5 isn't so bad.

SignalHillHiker Nov 17, 2013 2:54 PM

Happy City St. John's just posted the following status update on Facebook:

"It appears that the recently announced St. John's to Dublin flight is the beginning of a bigger move. Westjet is looking at turning St. John's into their Eastern hub for transatlantic flights; this could mean direct flights from here to a variety of European cities, and feeder flights between St. John's and the rest of the country. What kind of impact do you think this will have on life in St. John's?"

I think it'll be good news. It will probably introduce more North Americans to the city. Right now, St. John's is only a place you end up if you intentionally set out to come here and spend a considerable amount of money doing so. We're a final destination, not a stop on anyone's travel route. North Americans don't end up here in the same way we end up in, say, Montreal, or Toronto, when we travel. This will change that for those flying from mainland cities to Dublin.

As for the impact on us... it could open up travel for more Newfoundlanders by increasing competition and making it more affordable.

MonctonRad Nov 17, 2013 3:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SignalHillHiker (Post 6342628)
Happy City St. John's just posted the following status update on Facebook:

"It appears that the recently announced St. John's to Dublin flight is the beginning of a bigger move. Westjet is looking at turning St. John's into their Eastern hub for transatlantic flights; this could mean direct flights from here to a variety of European cities, and feeder flights between St. John's and the rest of the country. What kind of impact do you think this will have on life in St. John's?"

I think it'll be good news. It will probably introduce more North Americans to the city. Right now, St. John's is only a place you end up if you intentionally set out to come here and spend a considerable amount of money doing so. We're a final destination, not a stop on anyone's travel route. North Americans don't end up here in the same way we end up in, say, Montreal, or Toronto, when we travel. This will change that for those flying from mainland cities to Dublin.

As for the impact on us... it could open up travel for more Newfoundlanders by increasing competition and making it more affordable.

Really!! This was my quote on the announcement that I made the other day in the Atlantic Canada Airport Thread:

Quote:

Originally Posted by MonctonRad (Post 6340452)
from the Globe & Mail:

WestJet Airlines Ltd., is going trans-Atlantic for the first time.

The Calgary-based airline said Friday it will begin daily 737 aircraft flights to Dublin from St. John’s beginning next June.

The service will be seasonal and will include direct flights to Dublin from Toronto. Direct flights stop, but use one aircraft so passengers don’t need to change planes.

In addition, the airline will offer daily non-stop flights between Ottawa and St. John’s, connecting to Dublin.

The flights from St. John’s will cut current travel time by nearly half, the airline said.

One-way fares from St. John’s will start at $199.

Air Canada began service to Ireland on its new Rouge discount airline this past summer.

Personal note - maybe WestJet is thinking of using St. John's International Airport as their trans-Atlantic hub, just like Iceland Air uses Keflavik for trans-oceanic connections... :tup:

It would be fabulous for St. John's if this is true. I have flown to Europe via Keflavik on Iceland Air myself, and I thought their system was rather ingenious. All the planes from North America arrived within about 90 minutes of each other and all the flights to the rest of Europe left near the same time shortly thereafter. This allowed people from many different places in NA to make efficient connections to a number of European destinations with little kerfuffle or chaos. I thought it worked rather well. If St. John's could develop the same model, it could be a tremendous boon for the airport and the city…….

Now, if only WestJet would consider a direct Moncton-St. John's flight to feed into this (possible) system. Our current direct service via PASCAN to St. John's is just too expensive.

SignalHillHiker Nov 17, 2013 3:38 PM

It'd be great. A part of me feels a little sad that it's not Gander, though, just for historical reasons. :D But I'll take it.

q12 Nov 17, 2013 10:28 PM

http://business.financialpost.com/20...hts-to-europe/

:previous:

Here is a good story in the Financial Post that explains it in detail. The St. John's Dublin route is 4,300 km and West Jet is comfortable flying their aircraft up to 4,800 km. It says they could potentially fly out of Halifax to Europe (although that might be stretching it).

Maybe Halifax to Glasgow as there is a strong connection between Nova Scotia and Scotland for obvious reasons. Zoom airlines used to fly the route. Zoom airlines also used to fly direct Halifax-Belfast, Halifax-London, and Halifax-Paris back around 2007.

http://hiaa.ca/2007/03/zoom-launches...start-in-june/

SignalHillHiker Nov 25, 2013 10:47 PM

Heading to the Big TO on Dec. 10 for a couple of days on business. Exciting!

Also... airfares are disgusting, even when I added both of TO's airports to the mix. Based on the times I absolutely have to be in Toronto, most Air Canada flights were well over $1,000. There were a bunch of nine-hour flights with 2+ stopovers from Porter/others in the $600-$800 range.

But, God love WestJet, they're getting me there and back, in fewer than 4 hours each way, for $598!

The_Architect Nov 26, 2013 2:44 PM

Geez that turned into a commercial at the end there. :tup:

You Need A Thneed Nov 27, 2013 2:35 AM

global news on the status of Calgary's new terminal, under construction.

craner Nov 29, 2013 5:38 AM

YYC looks great!
Can't wait to use it. :tup:

Chadillaccc Dec 10, 2013 6:17 AM

Calgary International Airport currently being doubled in size and capacity.


http://vipmedia.globalnews.ca/2013/1...2&h=448&crop=1
http://globalnews.ca/news/989093/gal...port-terminal/


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