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Wasatch Wasteland Oct 13, 2016 3:17 PM

Southwest is adding two new routes.http://www.usatoday.com/story/travel...utes/91984922/

Delta Switches Salt Lake- Reagan to Salt Lake- Dulles. LA gets the perimeter restricted slot that Salt Lake used to have.
http://news.delta.com/new-delta-rout...hington-reagan

San Diego-Honolulu Oct 13, 2016 8:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wasatch Wasteland (Post 7592218)
Southwest is adding two new routes.http://www.usatoday.com/story/travel...utes/91984922/

Delta Switches Salt Lake- Reagan to Salt Lake- Dulles. LA gets the perimeter restricted slot that Salt Lake used to have.
http://news.delta.com/new-delta-rout...hington-reagan

Delta only switched one of their two daily SLC to Reagan flights to Dulles airport. The other SLC to Reagan slot went to LAX. Your description is very misleading.

Never have been a fan of Southwest. Along with Frontier, Spirit, and Allegiant, Southwest and those airlines are the Wal-Marts of the airline industry. They offer a very cheap product, and also just look at the type of passenger they carry. It's the same you see all around Wal-Mart. Their boarding areas for their flights look like the check out lines at your local Wal-Mart. You get what you pay for with those airlines.

justiny Oct 14, 2016 12:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by San Diego-Honolulu (Post 7592526)
Never have been a fan of Southwest. Along with Frontier, Spirit, and Allegiant, Southwest and those airlines are the Wal-Marts of the airline industry. They offer a very cheap product, and also just look at the type of passenger they carry. It's the same you see all around Wal-Mart. Their boarding areas for their flights look like the check out lines at your local Wal-Mart. You get what you pay for with those airlines.

Hell yes, I couldn't agree more. :cheers:

My job recently had me flying from Reno to Vegas on Southwest. I told them I'd rather drive.

wrendog Oct 14, 2016 1:11 AM

it's interesting what SWA has done at SLC. Used to have a ton of nonstops, then it slowly dropped to like 7 or so, but now it's up to 12 again.

Wasatch Wasteland Oct 14, 2016 2:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by San Diego-Honolulu (Post 502)
Delta only switched one of their two daily SLC to Reagan flights to Dulles airport. The other SLC to Reagan slot went to LAX. Your description is very misleading.

Lol not that misleading but thanks for the clarification. 😉

Wasatch Wasteland Nov 8, 2016 4:25 AM

Updated renderings are on the airport's website.

Orlando Nov 8, 2016 5:04 AM

https://www.slcairport.com/thenewslc...gs-and-images/

Ya, these are not new. We've seen these before. Very unsure about that wavy stuff.

wrendog Nov 8, 2016 3:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Orlando (Post 7615983)
https://www.slcairport.com/thenewslc...gs-and-images/

Ya, these are not new. We've seen these before. Very unsure about that wavy stuff.

This one is new:

https://www.slcairport.com/assets/Th...view-10-16.JPG

orlandopilot Nov 8, 2016 6:23 PM

I am worried that the main terminal building(not the concourses) doesn't look big enough. I know there will be three floors but I just wonder if this is going to be big enough.

billbillbillbill Nov 8, 2016 8:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by orlandopilot (Post 7616464)
I am worried that the main terminal building(not the concourses) doesn't look big enough. I know there will be three floors but I just wonder if this is going to be big enough.

I am wondering if they are anticipating a lot of the baggage check-ins to take place in the parking garage requiring less space for that in the main terminal. If 1 floor is baggage claim and the other is mostly security, it might be alright.

wrendog Nov 9, 2016 1:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by orlandopilot (Post 7616464)
I am worried that the main terminal building(not the concourses) doesn't look big enough. I know there will be three floors but I just wonder if this is going to be big enough.

Yup, I've suggested the same thing. It looks tiny for such a major airport.

jtrent77 Nov 9, 2016 6:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by billbillbillbill (Post 7616628)
I am wondering if they are anticipating a lot of the baggage check-ins to take place in the parking garage requiring less space for that in the main terminal. If 1 floor is baggage claim and the other is mostly security, it might be alright.

Pretty sure it will be similar to DCA (my airport) in that the top floor will be arrivals and ticketing, then you will go to the middle floor for security and to get to gates, then the bottom floor is for baggage claim and leaving the airport.

T-Stan Nov 9, 2016 11:06 PM

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Originally Posted by wrendog (Post 7616924)
Yup, I've suggested the same thing. It looks tiny for such a major airport.

The main building is about the length of a downtown SLC block, so it should be large enough. The huge concourses just make that building look small.

s.p.hansen Nov 10, 2016 12:06 AM

Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't the overwhelming purpose of our airport to connect people passing through? Isn't that why the square footage of the concourses is so much greater than the unified terminal?

wrendog Nov 10, 2016 2:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by T-Stan (Post 7618373)
The main building is about the length of a downtown SLC block, so it should be large enough. The huge concourses just make that building look small.

That's the concourse, not the terminal. The terminal is just the little block in front of the main concourse

jtrent77 Nov 10, 2016 12:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wrendog (Post 7618537)
That's the concourse, not the terminal. The terminal is just the little block in front of the main concourse

I'm gonna guess you were tired when you wrote this, because if a concourse is only the length of an SLC block you aren't going to have many planes at it.

Indeed the terminal is the length of an SLC block as seen by this image on their site

https://www.slcairport.com/assets/Th...wn-Overlay.jpg

airhero Nov 10, 2016 7:42 PM

Based on the bird's eye view, the footprint of the terminal is approximately 400,000 sq ft. To compare, Denver's looks to be about 470,000, LAX main terminal is 380,000, Atlanta 600,000, and Minneapolis 365,000.

San Diego-Honolulu Nov 11, 2016 2:27 AM

The main terminal building is three levels. First being the drop off/check in and TSA security, second the arrival pickups/baggage claim, and the lowest level will be level three which will be for international arrivals.

The main terminal building is built to be expanded if needed. It looks plenty big enough considering everything will be on three separate levels.

It'll be interesting to see if the airport will attract more international airlines. I could potentially see Condor and Volaris begin service to SLC. International travel is definitely the direction the US airline industry is heading towards. There will be more international gates with direct access to customs and immigration. The gates will be able to handle any type of different aircraft at any time. The customs and immigration will be a lot bigger as well compared to what's around right now. KLM and Air Canada began service to SLC this year, and KLM is already expanding with more flights and seats with a larger plane to SLC next year. Delta's flights to Paris and Amsterdam, and along with KLM's service to Amsterdam have been grand slams. Their flight to London has been more on the poor side of performance. I wouldn't be surprised to see them switch the London service to seasonal only. The London flight will definitely need time to mature. Hopefully Delta will have the patience with it for it to have success. If not I bet British Airways would give it a try if Delta pulls the plug on it.

wrendog Nov 11, 2016 2:46 AM

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Originally Posted by jtrent77 (Post 7618779)
I'm gonna guess you were tired when you wrote this, because if a concourse is only the length of an SLC block you aren't going to have many planes at it.

Indeed the terminal is the length of an SLC block as seen by this image on their site

Haha.. Yeah, I wasn't thinking at all. I'm an idiot.

TheWire Nov 23, 2016 11:26 PM

According to Ben Winslow at FOX13, construction costs have driven up the costs of the new terminal by $350M, putting the total cost now at $2.9B.

ImaJem Dec 12, 2016 5:41 PM

I just got an email update for airport construction.
This is what I got:
http://campaign.r20.constantcontact....c-b104d20817c3

San Diego-Honolulu Dec 16, 2016 9:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ImaJem (Post 7648961)
I just got an email update for airport construction.
This is what I got:
http://campaign.r20.constantcontact....c-b104d20817c3

Cool! Thank you for the update.

i-215 Dec 16, 2016 9:12 PM

http://i.imgur.com/8FkcZCP.png

I'm a little confused how the ingress/egress works for this new Park and Wait lot. Do people just hang a left out of that new driveway? Because that doesn't look super safe with 50 MPH traffic.

ImaJem Dec 16, 2016 10:19 PM

I don't think it would be any different than making a right turn, since this is all one-way, but it does still look a little unsafe. Maybe the final configuration will be a little different?

You know what would be cool?
This:
Video Link

Liberty Wellsian Dec 18, 2016 5:17 AM

Video Link

San Diego-Honolulu Dec 24, 2016 4:05 AM

http://www.bondbuyer.com/news/region...1121103-1.html

Hatman Dec 25, 2016 1:08 AM

Did I miss my chance to post an old video?
Video Link

CONative Dec 27, 2016 3:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by airhero (Post 7619221)
Based on the bird's eye view, the footprint of the terminal is approximately 400,000 sq ft. To compare, Denver's looks to be about 470,000, LAX main terminal is 380,000, Atlanta 600,000, and Minneapolis 365,000.

The main footprint s.f. of Denver's is right at 500,000.

orlandopilot Jan 6, 2017 3:46 PM

SLC Intl. will have finished 2016 with over 23 million passengers. That is approximately 1 million more than 2015. I don't know what the all time passenger record for SLC is but this would have to be close. Good times ahead for SLC. Hopefully the momentum will continue into 2017.

Wasatch Wasteland Feb 7, 2017 6:09 AM

General flight update:

Frontier is ending service to Chicago
American is ending service to Miami (Most likely a result of delta just recently starting service to Miami)

Southwest is starting daily flights to SanDiego
Delta will be starting daily winter seasonal flights to Kahului, flown on a 767 in December.

scottharding Mar 15, 2017 10:35 PM

Demand is already catching up to Salt Lake International rebuild. May have to proceed directly to phase 2.

http://www.sltrib.com/news/5061520-1...medium=twitter

i-215 Mar 15, 2017 10:58 PM

The guy is right. It's a "good problem to have."

But it's still a problem. Even with the extra 15 gates, what's to say we won't need a third or fourth concourse within a decade (again, an awesome "problem" to have).

I worry the new terminal will be overwhelmed and won't be able to handle that sort of volume. Maybe build a second terminal on the north side that connects to I-215?

jubguy3 Mar 16, 2017 3:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Plaid Shirts (Post 6499789)
That is true. But the north concourse is planned about 50-60 years after the main terminal is complete, which is planned to be done around 2026 I believe.

I just feel like I needed to bring this plaid shirts post from 2013 up. What a long way we've come, from expecting half of the south concourse with A, B, and C still in place done by 2024 to having all of the south concourse and possibly part of the north concourse done by 2020 (or 2024?). 50-60 years my ass, plaid shirts.

AllOutOfBubbleGum Mar 16, 2017 11:24 PM

I remember talk about the airport needing this construction before the Olympics, but funding was never secured for the expansion and I don't think the construction time frame worked.

Any-who, I think if Utah in general wants to accommodate more tourism and visits to the state in the quickest possible way. Expand Provo airport and probably Ogden for regional flights, kind of how Midway and O'Hare do it in Chicago. Utah County has an estimated 500,000 people in it and by 2050 will have a million. Which is basically saying they will need the current Salt Lake Airport down in Provo in the next 30 years.

I saw a commit on one of the news articles and someone suggested build a Hyper-Loop from Provo to Salt Lake Airports and make Provo the Regional jets airport. Need a connection? Hope on the Hyper-loop and in 5 minutes your at Salt Lake heading to Paris.

Just a thought, Like my expanding Ski Resorts in Utah and Morgan Counties.:shrug:

delts145 Mar 17, 2017 12:29 AM

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Originally Posted by jubguy3 (Post 7741881)
I just feel like I needed to bring this plaid shirts post from 2013 up. What a long way we've come, from expecting half of the south concourse with A, B, and C still in place done by 2024 to having all of the south concourse and possibly part of the north concourse done by 2020 (or 2024?). 50-60 years my ass, plaid shirts.

:sly:Ha, and who do we think the most recent incarnation of Plaid Shirts is??? :yes:

Stenar Mar 17, 2017 9:04 PM

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Originally Posted by delts145 (Post 7742910)
:sly:Ha, and who do we think the most recent incarnation of Plaid Shirts is??? :yes:

SanDiego-Honolulu, a Draper basement dweller. AND Jimmy Chips. JC created his account on Feb 17 (the day we were having that discussion with SDH) and hasn't posted anything since Feb 18.

San Diego-Honolulu Mar 18, 2017 5:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Stenar (Post 7743801)
SanDiego-Honolulu, a Draper basement dweller. AND Jimmy Chips. JC created his account on Feb 17 (the day we were having that discussion with SDH) and hasn't posted anything since Feb 18.

I'm right here haha :haha:

AllOutOfBubbleGum Mar 18, 2017 6:35 PM

They just announced the new airport north terminal design :haha:

<iframe width="400" height="500" frameborder="0" src="http://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-39284294/embed"></iframe>

Obviously joking, but I could see one of the crazy middle eastern states trying this. I'm sure Steve jobs would approve.

TonyAnderson Mar 19, 2017 5:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AllOutOfBubbleGum (Post 7742845)
I remember talk about the airport needing this construction before the Olympics, but funding was never secured for the expansion and I don't think the construction time frame worked.

Any-who, I think if Utah in general wants to accommodate more tourism and visits to the state in the quickest possible way. Expand Provo airport and probably Ogden for regional flights, kind of how Midway and O'Hare do it in Chicago. Utah County has an estimated 500,000 people in it and by 2050 will have a million. Which is basically saying they will need the current Salt Lake Airport down in Provo in the next 30 years.

I saw a commit on one of the news articles and someone suggested build a Hyper-Loop from Provo to Salt Lake Airports and make Provo the Regional jets airport. Need a connection? Hope on the Hyper-loop and in 5 minutes your at Salt Lake heading to Paris.

Just a thought, Like my expanding Ski Resorts in Utah and Morgan Counties.:shrug:

The Ogden Metro already has over 600k and should be at a million as well before too long.

Liberty Wellsian Mar 20, 2017 8:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AllOutOfBubbleGum (Post 7742845)
I remember talk about the airport needing this construction before the Olympics, but funding was never secured for the expansion and I don't think the construction time frame worked.

Any-who, I think if Utah in general wants to accommodate more tourism and visits to the state in the quickest possible way. Expand Provo airport and probably Ogden for regional flights, kind of how Midway and O'Hare do it in Chicago. Utah County has an estimated 500,000 people in it and by 2050 will have a million. Which is basically saying they will need the current Salt Lake Airport down in Provo in the next 30 years.

I saw a commit on one of the news articles and someone suggested build a Hyper-Loop from Provo to Salt Lake Airports and make Provo the Regional jets airport. Need a connection? Hope on the Hyper-loop and in 5 minutes your at Salt Lake heading to Paris.

Just a thought, Like my expanding Ski Resorts in Utah and Morgan Counties.:shrug:

Aren't an overwhelming number of the flights in and out of SLC International Regional? Wouldn't removing a bunch of regional flights from the airport destroy its usefulness as a hub? It also seems to me that much of the population growth in Utah County is as near to Salt Lake City as it is to Provo.

Maybe if the population South of Provo really explodes or Salt Lake International somehow hits capacity constraints that it can't overcome with reasonable upgrades then Provo would need to be expanded.It seems better to me to invest in one impressive airport with lots of flights than 2 less impressive airports with fewer flights. I could be wrong but I think SLC International has plenty of room to grow before it needs relief from another airport.

Jimmy Chips Mar 20, 2017 9:20 PM

I am SanDiego-Honolulu :)

Liberty Wellsian Mar 20, 2017 9:49 PM

Do the moderators here not have access to IP addresses? Elsewhere on the internet it seems you need a proxy to troll this hard.

Stenar Mar 21, 2017 6:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Liberty Wellsian (Post 7746215)
Do the moderators here not have access to IP addresses? Elsewhere on the internet it seems you need a proxy to troll this hard.

He's using a VPN to mask his IP address.

San Diego-Honolulu Mar 21, 2017 7:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jimmy Chips (Post 7746185)
I am SanDiego-Honolulu :)

Yeah, and I am Jimmy Chips :)

JMK Mar 22, 2017 3:31 PM

How is Construction of the new Salt Lake Intl Airport Going?

http://www.good4utah.com/news/local-...oing/672582535

TheWire May 1, 2017 7:31 PM

lol. The new park-and-wait lot is going to have a Chevron, Costa Vida and a Burger King.

http://www.sltrib.com/news/5239237-1...coming-to-salt

airportvids May 1, 2017 10:57 PM

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Originally Posted by TheWire (Post 7791029)
lol. The new park-and-wait lot is going to have a Chevron, Costa Vida and a Burger King.

http://www.sltrib.com/news/5239237-1...coming-to-salt

This is awesome. It's about time. :tup:

jubguy3 May 4, 2017 3:20 AM

A construction update has been posted.

Quote:

Landscaping and asphalt paving is complete at the new Park and Wait Lot, which opens June 1, 2017.

Stem walls are finished for the South Concourse-West and a concrete pour is scheduled for next week.

Steel piles have all been driven at the Central Utility Plant and concrete for the walls will be poured later this week.
https://www.slcairport.com/assets/Up...1-Picture1.jpg

TheWire May 5, 2017 5:07 PM

Its incredible to see how many piles have been driven out there. It will be exciting to see work start above ground.

jubguy3 May 5, 2017 11:31 PM

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Originally Posted by TheWire (Post 7795759)
Its incredible to see how many piles have been driven out there. It will be exciting to see work start above ground.

Pretty quickly the actual terminal and south concourse west structures should start to pop up from the ground. Construction updates will become a lot more interesting in the next couple of months, i assume.


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