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DrNest Nov 6, 2015 9:35 PM

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Originally Posted by cyeg66 (Post 7225665)
Hahaha, thought the exact same thing. As for jet-powered perpetrators, a BAC 1-11 on go-around power without any kind of hushkit b.s. assistance is a particularly fond memory of mine. F-101 Voodoo's weren't exactly quiet, either.... Those planes would put hair on your chest and cracks in your windows. Good times, good times.

My first thought was the BAC 1-11 too. Those were so loud. And then to throw into the list, Concorde. They could make a Motörhead concert sound quiet. I can remember hearing the distinctive roar of her engines as they flew over my house at 50,000ft.

Denscity Nov 6, 2015 9:37 PM

^^^ Sounds like Vancouver is rumoured to be the first city in North America to have a direct flight to Shenzen. By next year YVR will be directly connected to 9 out of China's 10 largest cities! The YVR thread has all the details sorry I don't know how to post a thread from there to here.

Denscity Nov 6, 2015 9:46 PM

^^^ Well copy/paste works:

YVR-Beijing "check" Air Canada, Air China
YVR-Shanghai "check" Air Canada, China Eastern
YVR-Guangzhou "check" China Southern
YVR-Chongqing MISSING [new T3 being built, set to open late 2016. look for announcement close to then]
YVR-Tianjin "H1 2016" Hainan Airlines
YVR-Shenyang "check" Sichuan Airlines
YVR-Chengdu "check" Sichuan Airlines
YVR-Kunming "check" China Eastern
YVR-Shenzhen "H2 2016" TBD
YVR-Xiamen "Approved" Xiamen Airlines

Credit to Hot Rod in the YVR thread

ghYHZ Nov 6, 2015 10:39 PM

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Originally Posted by SkydivePilot (Post 7225611)
What???!!!! Q400s ridiculously loud???!!!!
For turboprops: Vickers Viscount/Vanguard...........

Oh to hear those Rolls Royce Tynes again spooling up on a Vanguard.......

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LuzLS35IzVc

Jump to 4:30 of the video and that’s only 2 of 4 engines running. The Vanguard was a transcontinental workhorse for Trans Canada Airlines/Air Canada.

Denscity Nov 6, 2015 10:42 PM

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Originally Posted by ghYHZ (Post 7225567)
….and a nice little airport too! Love the approach when we’ve flown in on ski vacations.

Oh yes we've got a mountain at each end of the runway so its quite a thrilling ride. And gorgeous!

SkydivePilot Nov 7, 2015 3:34 PM

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Originally Posted by cyeg66 (Post 7225665)
Hahaha, thought the exact same thing. As for jet-powered perpetrators, a BAC 1-11 on go-around power without any kind of hushkit b.s. assistance is a particularly fond memory of mine. F-101 Voodoo's weren't exactly quiet, either.... Those planes would put hair on your chest and cracks in your windows. Good times, good times.

Oh yeah, I'll bet the BAC 1-11s were wicked. (As far as I know, its engines has no bypass air.) -35/40C days would have enhanced the noise level at that! :tup:

Back in the day, Regina would have two/three AC DC-8-61s/day to YYZ. Anyhow, those DC-8s would shake the southern 1/3 of Regina on the threshold during throttle-up facing towards the northwest. (About a 3.8 on the Richter Scale, direct line-of-sight, 1.25 miles away from our house.) Moreover, one could EASILY hear F-27s start/taxi/ground ops when it was -35 across built-up areas 2-3 miles away! ( . . maybe even farther over open fields.)

Of course, during the summer, things weren't as loud.

The grandaddy was when an Air France Concorde came here in May '87; now, THAT was loud! :yes:

MonctonRad Nov 7, 2015 4:29 PM

You guys don't know the definition of loud unless you've been near an old RCAF Argus anti submarine aircraft on approach or take-off. :frog:

They used to have a squadron stationed at CFB Summerside PEI when I was growing up. They would occasionally practice touch and go landings at the Charlottetown Airport, and on approach would fly over the downtown at several hundred feet in altitude. Those engines produced a deep mighty roar that shook windows in their frames and you could actually feel the vibration in your chest as they flew overhead. It's one of the unforgettable memories of my childhood.

http://www.415sqn.com/aircraft/Argus/argusS.jpg

SkydivePilot Nov 8, 2015 4:24 PM

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Originally Posted by MonctonRad (Post 7227184)
You guys don't know the definition of loud unless you've been near an old RCAF Argus anti submarine aircraft on approach or take-off. :frog:

They used to have a squadron stationed at CFB Summerside PEI when I was growing up. They would occasionally practice touch and go landings at the Charlottetown Airport, and on approach would fly over the downtown at several hundred feet in altitude. Those engines produced a deep mighty roar that shook windows in their frames and you could actually feel the vibration in your chest as they flew overhead. It's one of the unforgettable memories of my childhood.

http://www.415sqn.com/aircraft/Argus/argusS.jpg

Yeah, no doubt! In 2010, a Lancaster stopped in Regina for fuel. When it took-off and flew over my head, it sure was something! I can only imagine what 100-200 of them sounded like together during a sortie. :)

SkahHigh Nov 13, 2015 1:51 AM

Tunisair will start flying to YUL starting Spring 2016, according to the airline's North American GM.

G.S MTL Nov 13, 2015 1:56 AM

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Originally Posted by SkahHigh (Post 7233499)
Tunisair will start flying to YUL starting Spring 2016, according to the airline's North American GM.

Will it be year round? Daily?

SkahHigh Nov 13, 2015 1:59 AM

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Originally Posted by G.S MTL (Post 7233508)
Will it be year round? Daily?

Maybe 3 weekly, year-round.

DrNest Nov 16, 2015 5:29 PM

This is a list of essentially Heavies (and 757s) that regularly fly into Toronto Pearson. I've included a couple of Mediums as well just as an indication of the foreign carrier, whilst excluding anything from the US airlines. I've not attempted to match each aircraft to their destinations, or frequencies, as there are too many variables. I've included Transaero as they were flying in until very recently.

http://i1059.photobucket.com/albums/...ps98iqrx3d.jpg

Johnny Aussie Nov 17, 2015 9:00 PM

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Originally Posted by DrNest (Post 7237173)
This is a list of essentially Heavies (and 757s) that regularly fly into Toronto Pearson. I've included a couple of Mediums as well just as an indication of the foreign carrier, whilst excluding anything from the US airlines. I've not attempted to match each aircraft to their destinations, or frequencies, as there are too many variables. I've included Transaero as they were flying in until very recently.

Regardless, that's very impressive.

Yes it would be very difficult to nail the frequencies because of, like you say, the variables of seasonal changes. Maybe just pick a week in peak summer, say early August, and see what you come up with! If you accept this mission..... I wouldn't know where to start. I reckon Air Canada and rouge would be hard enough... LOL

Johnny Aussie Nov 17, 2015 9:10 PM

Resource based traffic
 
With the slowdown in the resources industry I've noticed a lot of pull back on flights to the North. I don't follow Central or Eastern Canada that much but in Western Canada clearly putting a damper on air traffic.

Examples are Canadian North flying fewer frequencies, First Air has transferred flights to the smaller Avro jets flown by Summit Air, Westjet reduced frequencies to both YZF and YXY and now the latest Air North cutting flights in some cases 50%. Even little CMA has reduced some flights to the North.

As we have seen YMM in particular is just getting smashed with huge declines in traffic. I'd be surprised if AC maintains three daily and WS maintains its daily flight to YMM from YVR next summer.

So is the same thing happening between Central Canada and the North?

begratto Nov 17, 2015 9:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Johnny Aussie (Post 7238880)
So is the same thing happening between Central Canada and the North?

Montreal has daily First Air 737 flights to Kuujjuaq, which continue 3 times per week to Iqualuit.

Ottawa has a daily flight to Iqualuit.

That's pretty much all we have in terms of flights to the North.

eemy Nov 17, 2015 9:41 PM

There is also an Air North Flight from Ottawa to Whitehorse, stopping in Yellowknife, two times per week.

nname Nov 17, 2015 10:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Johnny Aussie (Post 7238880)
With the slowdown in the resources industry I've noticed a lot of pull back on flights to the North. I don't follow Central or Eastern Canada that much but in Western Canada clearly putting a damper on air traffic.

Trans-Atlantic flight from Whitehorse seems to be doing fine :D

LeftCoaster Nov 17, 2015 11:17 PM

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Originally Posted by G.S MTL (Post 7215943)
Here is the schedule I did for YUL! took me quite some time gathering all the info! I even made it fancy with the airline logos..

Yours is so much prettier than mine, I might have to steal the idea! :cheers:

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Originally Posted by Denscity (Post 7226319)
^^^ Well copy/paste works:

YVR-Beijing "check" Air Canada, Air China
YVR-Shanghai "check" Air Canada, China Eastern
YVR-Guangzhou "check" China Southern
YVR-Chongqing MISSING [new T3 being built, set to open late 2016. look for announcement close to then]
YVR-Tianjin "H1 2016" Hainan Airlines
YVR-Shenyang "check" Sichuan Airlines
YVR-Chengdu "check" Sichuan Airlines
YVR-Kunming "check" China Eastern
YVR-Shenzhen "H2 2016" TBD
YVR-Xiamen "Approved" Xiamen Airlines

Credit to Hot Rod in the YVR thread

That's amazing, I wonder if it will be the first non Asian city to have links to all 10?

Just flew back from Beijing Monday PEK-YVR-YYZ. Boeing 773 and the flight was packed, even if the service on Air China leaves a bit to be desired.

LeftCoaster Nov 17, 2015 11:31 PM

I've been wondering when they would be pushing ahead with their plans from years ago for the next phase of expansion.

I'm guessing this expansion is the one shown in Klazu's photo below.

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Originally Posted by tovan (Post 7224867)
http://www.vancouversun.com/mobile/b...942/story.html

METRO VANCOUVER -- The Vancouver International Airport terminal will reach full capacity in about five years, according to current projections, and officials say 2016 will play a big role in determining how the facilities are expanded to meet demand.

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Originally Posted by Klazu (Post 7220049)
Last week I had the opportunity to visit the YVR corporate offices and they had this model in their lobby. I highlighted the planned new extension in red. All photos taken with a cell phone.

http://vuosiamaailmalla.fi/blog/wp-c..._laajennus.jpg


Johnny Aussie Nov 17, 2015 11:51 PM

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Originally Posted by LeftCoaster (Post 7239058)
That's amazing, I wonder if it will be the first non Asian city to have links to all 10?

Just flew back from Beijing Monday PEK-YVR-YYZ. Boeing 773 and the flight was packed, even if the service on Air China leaves a bit to be desired.

YVR very well may be the first yes. Bit of a race with SYD and MEL down under perhaps as they both have a growing list of direct flights to the secondary Chinese cities. Seems like more being announced all the time.

Thanks for the heads up re Air China... We are doing the MEL-PEK-YVR-PEK-MEL route over Xmas with decent layovers in both directions. Been 5 years since I've been on CA but willing to give it another go! Only doing it because they have added MEL-PEK non stop. All flights to PEK used to stop in PVG and that added quite a few hours to the total journey. Given up flying AC since they have added the metal requirement and being downunder makes that almost impossible to obtain now so NZ is my preferred carrier and having recently flown UA nonstop MEL-LAX I would do that again over AC SYD-YVR. Let me just check my vital signs... Yup I'm normal! LOL

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Thanks for the feedback re: Central Canada - North. Are these routes growing, maintaining or shrinking.....like I was saying they are definitely shrinking out West.


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