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isaidso Mar 8, 2018 7:50 PM

It's the earliest the Raptors have ever secured a playoff spot.

Denscity Mar 9, 2018 2:43 AM

BC high school championships on now from the Langley Events Centre. It's a big enough deal every year that TSN Vancouver is broadcasting live from it.
Steve Nash and Kelly Olinick among others came through this tournament.

TorontoDrew Mar 9, 2018 3:34 PM

I wonder if you had the Grizzlies now if they would be a more successful franchise?

osmo Mar 9, 2018 3:56 PM

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Originally Posted by TorontoDrew (Post 8113865)
I wonder if you had the Grizzlies now if they would be a more successful franchise?

Absolutely.

Grizzlies were doomed from early with bad strategy and leadership. Vancouver market is perfect for NBA basketball and would be similar to Dallas IMO. Mavericks have a very strong and loyal following in Dallas but it isn't the main show in town.

GernB Mar 10, 2018 7:36 PM

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Originally Posted by osmo (Post 8113892)
Absolutely.

Grizzlies were doomed from early with bad strategy and leadership. Vancouver market is perfect for NBA basketball and would be similar to Dallas IMO. Mavericks have a very strong and loyal following in Dallas but it isn't the main show in town.

IIRC the Grizzlies averaged 14,000 per game their last year in Vancouver despite years of lousy basketball caused, as you point out, by lousy management. If the Griffiths family hadn't had to divest itself of its major sports and media assets, the team probably would still be there. It's a damned shame they were moved, as they haven't exactly lit the association on fire either attendance- or record-wise in their years in Memphis. I agree that given a reasonably entertaining product, Vancouver would be a very successful NBA franchise.

GernB Mar 10, 2018 7:39 PM

Watching Calgary v McGill in the USports (hate that name) semis from Halifax. Lots of turnovers and poor shooting from both teams, though it's settled down a bit in the second half. Unfortunately looks to be only a few hundred in attendance.

isaidso Mar 11, 2018 5:06 AM

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Originally Posted by GernB (Post 8115206)
Watching Calgary v McGill in the USports (hate that name) semis from Halifax. Lots of turnovers and poor shooting from both teams, though it's settled down a bit in the second half. Unfortunately looks to be only a few hundred in attendance.

The lower bowl in the other Semi-Final looks full so that's weird. There seems to be people in the upper bowl too. Any way, big upset. Carleton is out with Ryerson moving on to meet Calgary in the national championship game.

Ryerson 84 Carleton 76
https://larongenow.com/sites/default...?itok=ToD0j5FN
Courtesy of larongenow

isaidso Mar 11, 2018 5:10 AM

In other news, RJ Barrett named Naismith High School player of the year in the United States. It's only the 2nd time a Canadian has won; the other being Andrew Wiggins.

GernB Mar 11, 2018 4:34 PM

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Originally Posted by isaidso (Post 8115763)
The lower bowl in the other Semi-Final looks full so that's weird. There seems to be people in the upper bowl too. Any way, big upset. Carleton is out with Ryerson moving on to meet Calgary in the national championship game.

Ryerson 84 Carleton 76
https://larongenow.com/sites/default...?itok=ToD0j5FN
Courtesy of larongenow

For the second semi between Ryerson and Carleton there was a half decent crowd. I was referring to the first between Calgary and McGill.

Glad to see Ryerson win. Diressa played very well and was the best player on the floor. Can't see Calgary coming close today but who knows.

blueandgoldguy Mar 11, 2018 9:00 PM

Raptors sure look like the real deal. I think they have a better than 50% chance to qualify for the finals this year.

isaidso Mar 11, 2018 10:44 PM

^^ They have a very good shot.

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Originally Posted by GernB (Post 8115988)
For the second semi between Ryerson and Carleton there was a half decent crowd. I was referring to the first between Calgary and McGill.

Glad to see Ryerson win. Diressa played very well and was the best player on the floor. Can't see Calgary coming close today but who knows.

The 2 Semi-Finals are usually sold as a double header but I guess a lot of people skipped the first one.

isaidso Mar 11, 2018 10:45 PM

4:37 left in the 4th and it's Calgary 65, Ryerson 63. Looks like this one will go down to the wire.

FrankieFlowerpot Mar 12, 2018 12:45 AM

Tremendous game between the Dinos and Rams earlier

suburbanite Mar 12, 2018 1:39 PM

Don't want to get my hopes up too high for the Raptors since playoff Lebron is a completely different beast and all bets are off. That being said, this team is completely different than those of the last 3 years, and the Cavs have the worst record for a Lebron-led team since he left Cleveland the first time. The opportunity is there, but it won't be easy.

That Houston/Toronto game on Friday was awesome though and would make for a great finals.

TorontoDrew Mar 12, 2018 1:44 PM

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Originally Posted by blueandgoldguy (Post 8116238)
Raptors sure look like the real deal. I think they have a better than 50% chance to qualify for the finals this year.


Charles Barkley seems to think so.

Video Link

TorontoDrew Mar 12, 2018 1:59 PM

Here is the full debate between him and Shaq. At the end Barkley says Toronto is his favorite city in the world. :D

Video Link

suburbanite Mar 12, 2018 2:09 PM

Barkley's always been pretty vocal about how much he liked Toronto whenever he was playing here. I remember when we had the All-Star weekend here he was pretty much saying "I told you so" to everyone on the national broadcasting crew who was surprised at how vibrant and basketball crazy the city was.

He's a little bit old school in his thinking sometimes, and I don't put too much weight on his predictions, but as far as panelists go Chuck is pretty great.

TorontoDrew Mar 21, 2018 3:26 PM

From CNN today
The team that could stop LeBron's Finals run at 7

How DeRozan, Lowry and Raptors Ditched 'Same Old Crap' to Dominate the East

NEW YORK — While the Cleveland Cavaliers and Golden State Warriors were once again battling for NBA supremacy this past June, the Toronto Raptors' on-court brain trust—coach Dwane Casey, DeMar DeRozan and Kyle Lowry—got together in Oakland, California, to come up with a new plan.

Not that the old plan wasn't working. It just wasn't sustainable in the new basketball landscape dominated by fast-paced offense, three-point shooting and multiple weapons being brought to bear on increasingly hapless and helpless defenses across the league.

"It was time for a change," a person familiar with the dialogue at the meeting told Bleacher Report. "We couldn't just keep doing the same old crap."

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2...aign=editorial

GernB Mar 21, 2018 6:33 PM

^They have a chance to gain some respect south of the border tonight on national US TV against the Cavaliers. Second night of a back to back; they have to come up with a much better performance than they gave against Orlando. If DeRozan and Van Vleet are in the lineup it will help.

suburbanite Mar 21, 2018 9:38 PM

I really want to believe this years Raptors will be different in the playoffs. The team is the most complete I've ever seen it. I still see signs of them reverting to the old ways of Derozan/Lowry iso plays or JV post-ups when things aren't going their way though.

I'm hoping some of the new guys come through big when we need them. CJ Miles has been clutch, stringing together consecutive threes at the end of big games. VanVleet always seems to make the right play and hit the shot when you need him too.

Raps biggest advantage is that they can send out wave after wave of fresh players when other teams tighten up their bench in the playoffs. Make Lebron play an exhausting 40 minutes by continually rotating OG, Siakam, and Powell covering him on defense.

TorontoDrew Mar 21, 2018 11:11 PM

I was gonna go for a run but I may watch the game instead tonight. It should be interesting.

Denscity Mar 22, 2018 2:37 AM

Raptors lose again but Cleveland is awesome.

isaidso Apr 15, 2018 2:50 AM

Raptors beat Wizards to take Game 1.

DrJoe Apr 15, 2018 9:37 AM

Big win for the Raps. Shake off some of the playoff boogeymen.

bomberguy Apr 15, 2018 5:02 PM

First game 1 win to open up the playoffs. It's a different world.

suburbanite Apr 17, 2018 7:50 PM

Raps need a decisive series win to put the past to rest.

There were some serious defensive holes in the first game that they managed to get away with partly because Wall had such a bad game. Can't count on that again and Washington is going to come out hot tonight.

Love that Casey is defying traditional tactics and still playing an extended bench in the playoffs. Guys like Siakam, Wright, Poetl, and hopefully VanVleet are going to be key.

rousseau Apr 17, 2018 8:34 PM

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Originally Posted by suburbanite (Post 8158101)
Love that Casey is defying traditional tactics and still playing an extended bench in the playoffs. Guys like Siakam, Wright, Poetl, and hopefully VanVleet are going to be key.

The plan is obviously for the second unit to help defensively wear down the opponent's starters who are getting extended minutes, and there shouldn't be too much drop-off when it comes to offense, but I'm not 100% confident about that.

Because, well, the playoffs are a different animal. And as great as Toronto's bench is, they were playing against other benches in the regular season. I want to believe that the Raps can assault their opponents with a super-charged defense that never gets tired while the opponents do. I hope that's how it plays out. But I'm unsure.

Tonight's going to say a lot about how they fare in the post-season.

suburbanite Apr 17, 2018 9:02 PM

The best thing about Toronto's bench is that it's versatile enough that Casey can easily blur the line between starters and bench. We've seen him play Derozan and Lowry with some combination of O.G., Siakam, Poetl, and Wright. If they end up facing Lebron again I bet you we'll see some unique combinations to try and counter Lebron and the spacing he provides the Cavs.

Having VanVleet healthy and playing like he was at the end of the season is huge though. He showed he can play against starters and when he is hitting 3's the drop-off in offence is minimized.

JHikka Apr 17, 2018 9:06 PM

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Originally Posted by suburbanite (Post 8158215)
If they end up facing Lebron again I bet you we'll see some unique combinations to try and counter Lebron and the spacing he provides the Cavs.

Here's to hoping Indiana knocks them out in the first round.

suburbanite Apr 17, 2018 9:50 PM

Nah, I want the Raptors to be the ones to end his streak (8 years?) and finally quiet the skeptics.

isaidso Apr 17, 2018 10:48 PM

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Originally Posted by suburbanite (Post 8158300)
Nah, I want the Raptors to be the ones to end his streak (8 years?) and finally quiet the skeptics.

The Cavs are noticeably weaker. Almost any team in the East playoffs is capable of knocking them off, including the Pacers. I'll settle for the Raptors making the NBA Final.

Denscity Apr 24, 2018 4:26 PM

What's with the Raptors the series is now 2-2!
Is there anything Drake can do?? :shrug:

suburbanite Apr 24, 2018 4:54 PM

Raptor's have a hard time playing a consistent game for 48 minutes. When things are flowing well they can dominate on both ends of the floor. When the opponent makes a couple big stops and goes on a run, they revert back to their old ways of lethargic iso-ball.

Not having VanVleet has also been a huge blow to the Raptors. Delon Wright doesn't have the same confidence when leading the second unit. He passed up on multiple open shot attempts late in the last game.

TownGuy Apr 28, 2018 8:17 AM

Big series win in game 6 for the Raptors. Wouldn't have been good for the psyche if they couldn't beat the #8 seed on the road and if they took them 7 games. Things are only going to get harder from here and they have to erase as many playoff demons as possible.

isaidso Apr 29, 2018 1:41 AM

Raptors on to the 2nd round. I found this post game show quite good.

Video Link

mistercorporate Apr 29, 2018 2:31 PM

Out of curiosity, what do you guys like about NBA basketball? I enjoy watching the Raptors play in the playoffs when they make a deep run. The back and forth when they score and the speed is entertaining but I'm unable to see much strategy beyond individual player skill.

Trying to get more into the games but not sure what I should be paying attention to, particularly in terms of strategy/tactics.

isaidso Apr 30, 2018 2:09 AM

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Originally Posted by mistercorporate (Post 8171214)
Out of curiosity, what do you guys like about NBA basketball? I enjoy watching the Raptors play in the playoffs when they make a deep run. The back and forth when they score and the speed is entertaining but I'm unable to see much strategy beyond individual player skill.

Trying to get more into the games but not sure what I should be paying attention to, particularly in terms of strategy/tactics.

Other than pure appreciation for the talent and athleticism on display, I like watching the match ups and watching team chemistry build over time. This is a team sport so a team with less skill can prevail if they have great team chemistry. Basketball is also a game of match ups. Figuring out at which position one has an advantage, then capitalizing on that. Height or size advantage?

Having the right group of players on the court. Knowing what your opponent's weaknesses are. Is this player a terrible 3 point shooter? If he is, you might not worry too much about him on the perimeter. Recognizing mistakes as they unfold, then capitalizing on that. Being patient and waiting for the high efficiency shot.

I really don't know the ins and outs of basketball but you pick a few things up over time. Maybe that video I posted will help a little.

elly63 May 3, 2018 1:33 AM

Former CFL receiver Mike Morreale heads up new Canadian Elite Basketball League
Lori Ewing 3Down Staff May 2, 2018

Retired longtime CFL receiver Mike Morreale hopes he can parlay his football background into a successful league for Canadian basketball players and fans.

Morreale is the CEO of the new Canadian Elite Basketball League that will tip off in May of 2019.

“The opportunity to get back into sport was huge, and very important, it’s something I’m passionate about,” Morreale said. “It’s great to get back into it and get your hands dirty and hopefully create some positive change.”

The inaugural campaign will see a 20-game regular-season schedule and single-elimination playoffs, with teams in Edmonton, Saskatoon, Hamilton, the Niagara region, Guelph, Ont., and B.C.’s Fraser Valley, B.C.

Each team will have a 12-player roster, with a Canadian-player quota similar to the CFL.

Morreale was the president of the CFL Players’ Association until 2014, and was working with a Calgary-based private jet company when he crossed paths with Richard Petko, the owner of the Niagara River Lions which currently play in the 10-team National Basketball League of Canada.

“Along the way we got talking about creating something really special, creating a legacy for basketball, filling the void that kind of exists in Canada for professional basketball,” Morreale said.

The 46-year-old Morreale played 12 seasons in the CFL, splitting time with Toronto and Hamilton, winning a Grey Cup with the Argonauts in 1996 and with the Tiger-Cats in ’99. Morreale was named the most outstanding Canadian in 1998.

Several basketball leagues have tried and failed in Canada.

“We certainly looked at the leagues that had come before, we looked at where they did well, and where the pitfalls were,” Morreale said. “And we structured our organization in a way that looked at the best practices of not just basketball leagues out there but other professional leagues, across this country and internationally.”

Morreale said the CEBL will borrow from both the CFL and Major League Soccer.

“We settled on a structure that we believe can be strong in the short-term and the long-term, with a corporate model similar to the MLS when they started where the league will operate the six territories and really be completely funded,” he said.

Under a corporate structure, Canadian Basketball Ventures, the league will foot the bill for everything from ticketing platforms, to national sponsorships, to marketing.

“It’s a multimillion dollar investment, because that allows you to do this properly,” Morreale said. “If we’re going to do it, we’re going to do it right . . . and really create a playbook for our local territories to thrive and be successful with the support from head office at every turn.”

While the NBL is about to wrap up its season, the CEBL will operate May through August, and will play under FIBA rules, which include 10-minute quarters.

Among other personnel announcements Wednesday, Greg Francis will be the league’s head of basketball, in charge of coach and player recruitment. Francis is Canada Basketball’s manager of men’s high performance.

John Lashway was named president of the Hamilton team and the league’s executive vice-president of strategy and communications. Lashway previously worked in communications and community development for the Toronto Raptors and Portland Trail Blazers.

isaidso May 3, 2018 8:07 PM

We already have the NBL. Why on earth would Canada need another basketball league on top of that?

thoughtsandrobots May 3, 2018 8:17 PM

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Originally Posted by isaidso (Post 8175994)
We already have the NBL. Why on earth would Canada need another basketball league on top of that?

The "N" in NBL is false. The league doesn't stretch west past Ontario. Thus, the CEBL (which is a horrible name, why not simply Canadian Basketball League?) will fill the void. The NBL has failed to venture out of the east in it's seven seasons. Perhaps, it was never their intent. We need this.

Also, the NBL is more of a traditional minor league for US players. The CEBL will have Canadian player quotas (not sure the NBL does) and hopefully allow U Sports players to develop further. Given the new expanded FIBA competition structure with qualification games using non-NBA talent, this can only be a plus for Team Canada.

MonctonRad May 3, 2018 9:37 PM

:previous:

The NBL does (did) have plans to expand to the west. The problem is travel costs for teams to play. Even as it is now, there are only two interlocking games per year between Maritime based and central division teams.

The NBL does have Canadian player quotas, and they have been becoming more stringent each year.

I think this new league is most unfortunate. Canada doesn't need two basketball leagues. This move will only ensure mutual failure unless there is an eventual amalgamation of the two leagues.

JHikka May 3, 2018 9:40 PM

NBL already has a team in Niagara so i'm wondering if the Niagara NBL team is switching to CEBL. Going to be some weird territory crossover in Ontario between CEBL, NBL, and G-League.

Mrs Sauga May 4, 2018 12:28 AM

Looks like the Raps are getting swept

Denscity May 4, 2018 12:29 AM

Get Drake out there lords know he thinks he's part of the starting lineup!!

TownGuy May 4, 2018 1:40 AM

Couldn't be any worse than the rest of them. Team is embarrassingly bad in the playoffs.

logan5 May 4, 2018 2:05 AM

What did you expect? The NBA play-offs go like clockwork.

suburbanite May 4, 2018 2:11 AM

I don't know if Ive ever been this embarrased about a Toronto sports Team before. Ya the Leafs lost to a divisional rival again, but at least it was somewhat competitive and the Team is still Young. This is something else. Iäve never seen a Team so mentally weak that they can let someone get in their head this bad. Indiana just became a fringe Playoff Team this year and they put up a fight that makes us look like like a goddamn G league Team. Absolutely pathetic. And the worst part is their is no quick solution. You can't just replace a core that youve grown over 5+ years.

Fuck my life

rousseau May 4, 2018 2:20 AM

Jesus fucking Christ.

GernB May 4, 2018 3:25 AM

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Originally Posted by MonctonRad (Post 8176113)
:previous:

The NBL does (did) have plans to expand to the west. The problem is travel costs for teams to play. Even as it is now, there are only two interlocking games per year between Maritime based and central division teams.

The NBL does have Canadian player quotas, and they have been becoming more stringent each year.

I think this new league is most unfortunate. Canada doesn't need two basketball leagues. This move will only ensure mutual failure unless there is an eventual amalgamation of the two leagues.

What plans did the NBLC have to expand west, i.e., to what cities?

GernB May 4, 2018 3:36 AM

You have to wonder what's next for the Raptors. Likely swept by Cleveland again, but what can we expect from a team that can't or won't play defence, can't shoot consistently from distance, and won't continue a strategy that worked well for three quarters Monday, that is, pushing the ball inside against a team that's weak defensively and has no rim protection.

I have to believe Ibaka is gone next season, he's been invisible in the playoffs. Unless he's playing with an undisclosed injury, there's no excuse. Miles and Powell also big busts this year.

I's the same old story....in addition to the above criticisms, they give up far too many unforced turnovers and consistently miss shots in close. The only bright spot in this series has been Anunoby. Little or no leadership from the veterans. I do not consider myself a fair-weather fan...but what I saw tonight, and less so on Monday was an embarrassment.

Do you blow up the team and start over? If not, then what?


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