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caltrane74 May 17, 2016 3:58 PM

BMO Field is not a proper football stadium, the Argos will have to move eventually..

esquire May 17, 2016 4:00 PM

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Originally Posted by caltrane74 (Post 7444249)
BMO Field is not a proper football stadium, the Argos will have to move eventually..

Why?

Acajack May 17, 2016 4:06 PM

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Originally Posted by mistercorporate (Post 7444105)
Im aware of the TFC-Argos antagonism due to potential turf issues, but other than that im unaware of any other antagonism. Oh yes, some Argos fans hate the Jays also due to Rogers' ownership. Thus all the antagonism is associated with one team.

Well, there is also a "hockey sucks" crowd among certain Raptors and TFC fans.

Hockey is just so... passé. So... Kapuskasing...

esquire May 17, 2016 4:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Acajack (Post 7444261)
Well, there is also a "hockey sucks" crowd among certain Raptors and TFC fans.

Hockey is just so... passé. So... Kapuskasing...

Yes, I've noticed that too. Only the Blue Jays seem to be mostly above the fray when it comes to these familial battles... they are the common ground, although as has been noted there are some Argo fans who probably aren't crazy about them due to Rogers' ownership either.

mistercorporate May 17, 2016 4:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Acajack (Post 7444261)
Well, there is also a "hockey sucks" crowd among certain Raptors and TFC fans.

Hockey is just so... passé. So... Kapuskasing...

Never seen that before, but then I don't frequent hockey forums to hear much of that. Never seen anything like that in the various TFC online mediums or events either.

bomberguy May 17, 2016 4:27 PM

First ever conference finals game tonight for the Raptors!

Ramako May 17, 2016 5:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Acajack (Post 7444261)
Well, there is also a "hockey sucks" crowd among certain Raptors and TFC fans.

Hockey is just so... passé. So... Kapuskasing...

To be more precise, there's a "Leafs suck" contingent among the Raptors fanbase, but it has little to do with hockey being passé or old-school Canadian and everything to do with the perception that the Toronto media gives the Raptors the short end of the stick when it comes to coverage, despite being the more successful team.

That's why videos like these are well known on the largest Raptors forums:

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Though the first two videos are fan-made, something very close to this has actually happened before!

As I understand it, this is something that hockey fans in other Canadian markets can sympathize with.

WhipperSnapper May 17, 2016 5:06 PM

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Originally Posted by esquire (Post 7444072)
Pretty well the rest of Canada. This weird dynamic where local fans don't support all of their home teams across the board only seems to exist in Toronto. Teams in the rest of Canada tend to play nicely together even if they are competing for a share of the local sports/entertainment market.

That's not really a specific example and, no offense, but, the rest of Canada doesn't have the same representation of sports and ownerships as Toronto does. A fairer comparison would have to be any number of US markets and I don't see any difference to Toronto.

**1 sec of googling

http://forums.celticsblog.com/index.php?topic=28158.0

There will be some animosity between fans of any teams that share a venue or schedule. So, yeah, you have no clue.

caltrane74 May 17, 2016 5:25 PM

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Originally Posted by esquire (Post 7444253)
Why?

It's too small.. sidelines and endzones are not built to regulation.

FrankieFlowerpot May 17, 2016 5:33 PM

the sidelines are regulation

caltrane74 May 17, 2016 5:37 PM

The Argos would be better off playing in the suburbs.

FrankieFlowerpot May 17, 2016 5:49 PM

Yeah - that's not happening for a while


anyways - back to basketball - the Raps are playing with house money at the minute. They might win one game - but that will be it - especially if JV doesn't get back soon

rousseau May 17, 2016 5:54 PM

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Originally Posted by WhipperSnapper (Post 7444345)
That's not really a specific example and, no offense, but, the rest of Canada doesn't have the same representation of sports and ownerships as Toronto does. A fairer comparison would have to be any number of US markets and I don't see any difference to Toronto.

**1 sec of googling

http://forums.celticsblog.com/index.php?topic=28158.0

There will be some animosity between fans of any teams that share a venue or schedule. So, yeah, you have no clue.

These accusations that Toronto is somehow unique for the antagonisms between some of the fans of teams in different sports are bizarre. I thought it was sort of common knowledge that this often happens in larger sports markets.

rousseau May 17, 2016 5:57 PM

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Originally Posted by FrankieFlowerpot (Post 7444432)
Yeah - that's not happening for a while


anyways - back to basketball - the Raps are playing with house money at the minute. They might win one game - but that will be it - especially if JV doesn't get back soon

Valanciunas's injury is such a damn shame. It would have been really nice to see the Raps at full strength for this series. Realistically I think they'll struggle to win even one game, but I can't help but harbour hopes for a miracle.

Maybe momentum and adrenaline will let them steal this one tonight!

esquire May 17, 2016 6:20 PM

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Originally Posted by WhipperSnapper (Post 7444345)
That's not really a specific example and, no offense, but, the rest of Canada doesn't have the same representation of sports and ownerships as Toronto does. A fairer comparison would have to be any number of US markets and I don't see any difference to Toronto.

**1 sec of googling

http://forums.celticsblog.com/index.php?topic=28158.0

There will be some animosity between fans of any teams that share a venue or schedule. So, yeah, you have no clue.

Oh oh, the trump card has been played with the ultimate appeal to authority... "we do it just like the Americans!"

I guess the matter is settled :rolleyes:

Ramako May 18, 2016 3:21 AM

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Originally Posted by esquire (Post 7444502)
Oh oh, the trump card has been played with the ultimate appeal to authority... "we do it just like the Americans!"

I guess the matter is settled :rolleyes:

To be fair, the entire premise of his argument is based on market size and there are no comparable markets within Canada... but that's if you're being fair.

:rolleyes:

WhipperSnapper May 18, 2016 1:11 PM

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Originally Posted by esquire (Post 7444502)
Oh oh, the trump card has been played with the ultimate appeal to authority... "we do it just like the Americans!"

I guess the matter is settled :rolleyes:

It is. You're just being pathetic now.

esquire May 18, 2016 1:49 PM

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Originally Posted by WhipperSnapper (Post 7445454)
It is. You're just being pathetic now.

:haha:

rousseau May 22, 2016 3:14 AM

What a game. What a win! I confess I was worried that they'd get blown off the floor and crumble in defeat, but I should have had more faith than that. I mean, they did make it to the conference finals after all, it was no fluke. They played like crap the first two games, and roared back tonight to turn this into a legitimate series, and that is totally cool.

But can they win game 4? Erm...I dunno. Did the Cavs play badly because of Toronto's better defence tonight (yes), or did they just play badly because they were due a bad game (also yes)? You can't really expect Kyrie Irving to have two off nights in a row.

Even if they lose the next two games, getting a win like this on the home floor totally redeems them in my eyes. The self-respect and dignity are now fully repaired and intact, but the psychological situation would have been pretty ugly if they'd gotten blown out tonight.

So, it was an exciting win, but also a freakin' relief!

mistercorporate May 22, 2016 3:43 AM

Home court advantage, aka Jurassic Park is not useless after all ;)
Whoever has the most home games this series probably takes it in my opinion.


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