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TechTalkGuy Jun 26, 2014 2:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Onn (Post 6632368)
Hopefully it will help reinvigorate the high-end retail department stores in New York City.

Barney's New York is a "fun" place to shop, but I am very excited for Nordstrom! :)

Onn Jun 26, 2014 2:19 AM

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Originally Posted by TechTalkGuy (Post 6632373)
Barney's New York is a "fun" place to shop, but I am very excited for Nordstrom! :)

Well I know in Detroit we used to have Hudson's Department Store. That was bought by Marshall Fields from Chicago in 2001, which in turn was sold to Macy's in 2006. (Neither Hudson's nor Marshall Fields exist anymore.) Another major Detroit department store Crowley's closed in 1999. And of course JCpenney has been on the ropes for years now, which is in multiple major malls right now. It's a disaster for shoppers and malls alike. Newer department stores need to hit some homeruns here, Walmart and Amazon shouldn't be allowed to take 100% of the clothing market.

wilfredo267 Jun 26, 2014 3:09 AM

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Originally Posted by NYguy (Post 6632285)
NO, they just haven't filed any new plans, which may not be complete. The building isn't even in ground yet, there will be years of new filings.

Maybe Barnett just wants to surprise you with 150 floors of Nordstrom shopping.

lol

Hudson11 Jun 26, 2014 5:10 PM

YIMBY throwing out a tease...

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpo...postcount=4250

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Originally Posted by babybackribs2314
Everyone here will be thrilled! Cannot give specifics yet but hopefully shortly.


Perklol Jun 26, 2014 10:52 PM

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Bergdorf Goodman
Is that like Marshalls or Century 21? (which is where I do most of shopping as well it addition to Conway)

TechTalkGuy Jun 26, 2014 11:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Eveningsong (Post 6633583)
Is that like Marshalls or Century 21? (which is where I do most of shopping as well it addition to Conway)

Here 'ya go: Bergdorf Goodman.

I expect the Nordstrom Dept. Store in the Tower to be just as awesome, considering the neighborhood they are in (and trust me, they ARE in a wealthy neighborhood)! :runaway:

NYguy Jun 27, 2014 1:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Onn (Post 6632368)
I have to say, although this tower is going to be grand, I'm kind of excited for the new Nordstorm department store too.

This tower will probably be known to most as the home of the Nordstrom.

ILNY Jun 27, 2014 1:41 PM

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Skyguy_7 Jun 27, 2014 1:59 PM

Excellent update, ILNY. How deep do these rock tendons typically go?

Also, at this stage of construction, Vornado should negotiate a tunnel to Nordstrom to use as another selling point for 220 CPS. Of course, Extell would probably tell them to pound sand. :haha:

Blaze23 Jun 27, 2014 4:24 PM

That got my attention! Not that we can draw much from it considering how developers market their buildings based on dubious floor counts, but still curious how close to the truth that is.

Moving In, Slowly, to ‘Billionaires’ Row
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/06/29/re...ents.html?_r=0
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I do have a few, particularly those who purchased in the $50 million range, that are such fans of the developer they are considering his next building,” said Ms. Field, referring to 225 West 57th Street, a condominium with at least 100 stories that will feature New York City’s first full-line Nordstrom department store. That building is not set to open until 2018, “so they are going to love this building and enjoy it,” she said, “but when there is a newer, shinier, prettier gal, they may decide to cash out and go for the next one.”

hunser Jun 27, 2014 6:11 PM

^ Don't read too much into it. This is not going to be 100 floors. It's just the developer cheating, same with TWT and One57. 432 PA has 85 (88) real floors, but is being marketed as an 96-story tower.

McSky Jun 27, 2014 10:00 PM

When I see the foundations of the Art Student's League building exposed to such a depth, it reminds me of that building that started to tip over because of excavation next door. Anyone remember which building that was? I have photos of it in Picasa, somewhere.

Hypothalamus Jun 27, 2014 10:39 PM

Hopefully we wont run into any obstacles.

Video Link

Zapatan Jun 28, 2014 12:43 AM

Sure... 100 "stories"

AKA 80 something stories with a bunch of floors missing :haha:

Not saying this building won't be impressive though

scalziand Jun 28, 2014 3:36 AM

The water tunnels are far deeper than this foundation will be ;)

chefforbz Jun 28, 2014 5:14 AM

How do they remove the excavators when it becomes too steep to drive out? I'm curious how they remove the final 1/4 of the pit.

shadowbat2 Jun 28, 2014 7:50 AM

They don't.

Anyone who has read Mike Mulligan and his Steam Shovel knows, that's how these big buildings get their heat:P

NYguy Jun 28, 2014 1:20 PM

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Originally Posted by hunser (Post 6634585)
It's just the developer cheating, same with TWT and One57. 432 PA has 85 (88) real floors, but is being marketed as an 96-story tower.

It's not really cheating. These towers with extra high ceiling heights are marketed that way because they are basically comparable to other or typical apartment buildings, and indeed some office buildings. (If the original WTC had 110 stories at less than 1,400 ft, why not have a building that rises higher have 100 or more).

It's also a game played in today's office market, where the typical tower in New York now has higher ceilings compared to towers of yesterday. The GE Building, were it built today, would be much taller with it's 70 stories, which is more than some of the new taller towers being built in Manhattan. (3 WTC, 1 Vanderbilt, etc.)

Zapatan Jun 28, 2014 7:12 PM

Yea floor count is pretty meaningless these days, but non skyscraper nerds still think floors equal the height of a building so it's better to market it at 100 or so.

I still say this building will be between 1420-1440 feet if we're lucky :)

Crawford Jun 28, 2014 7:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Zapatan (Post 6635542)
Yea floor count is pretty meaningless these days, but non skyscraper nerds still think floors equal the height of a building so it's better to market it at 100 or so.

I still say this building will be between 1420-1440 feet if we're lucky :)

I say you're crazy. At least 1550 ft., based on NY YIMBY's assurances that we will all be thrilled. And a great design.

NY YIMBY has been a solid source of info, with pretty much a perfect track record.

In YIMBY we trust. :)


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