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peanut gallery Sep 17, 2015 10:21 PM
^I'm listening to the public comments -- pretty much what you'd expect. However, according to Cory Weinberg at the SF Business Times this already has the votes on the Planning Commission. We'll see in a couple of hours what will happen today. But even if a continuance is granted, it will get approved by the Commission eventually.

Here are some of the benefits this project will bring (from the article linked above):
  • $73.5M in fee money (vs. $34M under current zoning)
  • nonprofit-run arts space
  • 50,000 square feet of public open space
  • 33 percent of the units will be affordable housing
  • preservation of the historic Dempster Printing and Camelline buildings, plus the Chronicle building (non-historic)
  • The city says it will make sure the first infusion of cash Hearst and Forest City will pay will help fund the Tenderloin affordable housing project at Eddy and Taylor streets.*

*This is the referenced project:
http://www.dbarchitect.com/images/dy...eshow_main.jpg
Source: David Baker Architects.

peanut gallery Sep 18, 2015 4:40 AM
OK, Planning Commission approved 5M tonight. Next up, BOS approval. Not sure when that will be. Glad they didn't give in to the hyperbole and illogical arguments against it.

minesweeper Sep 18, 2015 5:00 AM
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Originally Posted by peanut gallery (Post 7168290)
OK, Planning Commission approved 5M tonight. Next up, BOS approval. Not sure when that will be. Glad they didn't give in to the hyperbole and illogical arguments against it.
Here's the story from the Chronicle. Judging by today's circus, the BOS hearings will probably be even more contentious. It probably has the votes to pass, but who knows anymore.

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After a raucous nine-hour hearing during which hundreds of members of the public weighed in and deputy sheriffs were called to remove protesters, the San Francisco Planning Commission voted to approve a massive mixed-use development at Fifth and Mission that will transform a four-acre area with everything from towering luxury condos to low-income senior apartments, kid-friendly open space to tech-tailored office space.

[...]

The project is expected to go to the Board of Supervisors in late November or early December for final approvals. If the board passes the project, construction is expected to start in about a year and would continue in phases over 10 years.

[...]

The vote on the certification of the environmental impact report was 7-0. Votes on other aspects of the projects were 5-2, with commissioners Cindy Wu and Katherin Moore voting against.

peanut gallery Nov 10, 2015 12:48 AM
More news and a BOS approval date, from Hoodline:

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District 6 Supervisor Jane Kim announced today that Forest City has signed an agreement to make 40 percent of the residential units in its 5M Project affordable, up from the planned 33 percent.

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With this new development agreement, 241 of 601 units will be offered below-market-rate, which is up from the 212 units the developer previously agreed to provide. Affordable units will include 87 onsite for middle-income households; 71 in the Tenderloin Neighborhood Development Corporation's Eddy & Taylor Family Apartments (with 25 percent of the units allocated for applicants earning 25 percent area median income (AMI) and 75 percent earning 50 percent of the AMI); as well as land and funding to build 83 units of senior housing at 967 Mission St. for people earning 50 percent of the AMI.

The Chronicle also notes that the development's planned parking will be reduced from 463 to 331 spaces.

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The full Board of Supervisors is expected to vote on the project Nov. 17th.

peanut gallery Nov 18, 2015 3:59 PM
The Board approved this last night. The story from SFGate:

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The Board of Supervisors on Tuesday night approved the sprawling 5M project at Fifth and Mission, a $1 billion development that could become a South of Market game-changer as formative as the creation of Yerba Buena Gardens or Moscone Center.

For several hours, opponents of the project paraded to the lectern to plead with the supervisors to uphold an appeal of the environmental impact report on the development, which they argued would send land prices skyrocketing, prompt landlords to jack up rents, and squeeze out the working-class and elderly Filipino residents who have managed to hang on over the last 15 years amid waves of South of Market gentrification.

But in the end, the supervisors concluded that the project’s benefits — 40 percent low-income and middle class housing, open space, and money for local institutions like the Bessie Carmichael School and the Gene Friend Recreation Center — outweighed any gentrifying effects the development will have on the area.

The votes to affirm the project were 8-3, with Supervisors John Avalos, Eric Mar and David Campos voting against it.

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Kim, who faced criticism from Filipino nonprofit groups in her district that typically support her, ticked off a long list of community benefits from the project, including $800,000 going the establishment of a Filipino Cultural Heritage District, $1.5 million for the Gene Friend Rec Center and $1 million for Victoria Manalo Draves Park.
That last bit is in addition to funding the senior housing, Eddie and Taylor housing and other subsidized housing mentioned before. This seems like a real windfall for the city.

timbad Sep 7, 2016 5:00 AM
I was looking for updates on this one, and did find this unfortunate item from Jan 2016, but does anyone know of any further, um, developments?

edit: not much more, but this from Apr 2016 says "The project was sued by local activists in January, likely delaying groundbreaking" and "If it prevails in the lawsuit, Hearst and Forest City are planning phased construction over 10 years on the site"

SFView Sep 7, 2016 7:12 AM
^^^ These are some of the reasons (see video link below), and why the South of Market Community Action Network and others will fight against construction of the 5M project to the very end:

https://youtu.be/XcuEEdZRRYA

don116 Sep 7, 2016 10:00 PM
SOMCAN will likely sue to delay the project by a small margin of time but it will ultimately happen. It's ridiculous how selfish of a group they are. They're fighting against many improvements to SoMa to protect their own misguided interests.

minesweeper Jan 29, 2017 9:46 PM
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Originally Posted by timbad (Post 7553136)
I was looking for updates on this one, and did find this unfortunate item from Jan 2016, but does anyone know of any further, um, developments?
The lawsuit was denied this week, but they could still appeal:

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This week the San Francisco Superior Court rejected the claim and blocked the case from moving forward unless an appeal is filed in the next 60 days. Opponents said they haven't decided whether to file an appeal.

Forest City (NYSE: FCE.A), headquartered in Cleveland, now anticipates starting construction start in 2018. It is partnering with Hearst, owner of the San Francisco Chronicle building on the project site.

coyotetrickster Jan 29, 2017 9:52 PM
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Originally Posted by SFView (Post 7553206)
^^^ These are some of the reasons (see video link below), and why the South of Market Community Action Network and others will fight against construction of the 5M project to the very end:

https://youtu.be/XcuEEdZRRYA
That was a nice piece of propaganda.

Pedestrian Jan 31, 2017 5:35 PM
Sorry--already posted news that the suit was rejected. The headline here made me think the appeals court had also turned down the suit but no.

alpallord Sep 1, 2017 5:22 PM
5m
 
Soil testing being done over the last few days 5th and Natoma this week.

alpallord Sep 1, 2017 5:28 PM
https://www.flickr.com/photos/alexlo...posted-public/

homebucket Sep 1, 2017 5:43 PM
These are far too short. It'd just continue the table top effect. Something akin to the Hudson Yards project in NYC would be much better.

timbad Sep 2, 2017 6:10 AM
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Originally Posted by alpallord (Post 7909652)
thanks alpallord. I couldn't see the photo; I think this will fix it

timbad Aug 7, 2018 10:13 AM
to bring this slightly more up-to-date...

as of Oct 2017:

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The development won approvals at the city Planning Commission and the Board of Supervisors in November 2015. Since then it has been tied up in court. A group of neighborhood opponents sued to block the development, a lawsuit that was tossed out in January and then appealed to the Court of Appeal. There is no date set on when the court will rule on the case.
in this article from June, it says

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Forest City plans to break ground in 2019 with the project expected to be completed in 2021...

BrownTown Aug 7, 2018 3:15 PM
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Originally Posted by don116 (Post 7553896)
It's ridiculous how selfish of a group they are. They're fighting against many improvements to SoMa to protect their own misguided interests.
This description applies to pretty much all of San Francisco. Gatekeeping is the norm there, not the exception.

GeneralLeeTPHLS Aug 7, 2018 4:28 PM
Pretty good for San Francisco. I wish they could've kept more office space, but planning is quite a system over here it seems. Pretty solid density nonetheless, and with affordable housing. :tup:

alpallord Sep 13, 2018 4:22 PM
Rumor has it the main office portion of this to start construction in January, 415 Natoma bounded by Harrison, Natoma, Fifth and Mary Street.

timbad Mar 26, 2019 5:57 AM
going forward!

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Construction is set to start later this year on the long-delayed 5M development at Fifth and Mission streets, after a panel of judges rejected an appeal of the project neighbors filed more than 3½ years ago.

The First District Court of Appeal on Monday ruled that the development may proceed as planned, setting the stage for property owner Brookfield Properties to start work on a 652,000-square-foot office tower at Fifth and Howard streets, as well as a 288-unit apartment building on Mission Street.

The project will also eventually include a 400-unit condominium building on Fifth Street, to be built by Hearst Corp., which previously owned the entire site but in 2017 sold part of it to Forest City, which was taken over by Brookfield Properties last summer.

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In total the project will include 702 units: 400 market-rate condos, 211 market-rate rental apartments and 91 units targeting middle-income households earning between 100 percent and 150 percent of area median income, currently between $118,000 and $177,000 a year for a family of four.

In addition the developer agreed to pay $18 million to the Tenderloin Neighborhood Development Corp. for a 71-unit affordable project at 168 Eddy St., a few blocks from Fifth and Mission, and also build an 83-unit, low-income senior housing project on an 8,800-square-foot empty lot at 967 Mission St., between Fifth and Sixth streets.

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The project opponents still have until early May to appeal the First District Court of Appeal decision to the state Supreme Court, but have no plans to do so, according to neighborhood activists involved in the appeal.

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In addition to the Chronicle building, two other historic structures will be renovated: the Cameline Building and the Dempster Printing Building, which will be dedicated as new office space for CAST, the Community Arts Stabilization Trust.

SoMa activists objected to the fact that some of the on-site affordable units will be aimed at middle income households earning 150 percent of area median income, far more than most South of Market or Tenderloin families earn.

In addition they opposed the project because, they argued, the environment study for the project didn’t adequately study its shadow impact on Boedekker Park, the only public park in the Tenderloin. Critics also argued that the project would speed up gentrification of a part of San Francisco that is home to both high-flying tech companies as well as residential hotels housing some of the city’s poorest residents.


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