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JManc Feb 2, 2021 11:19 PM

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Originally Posted by The Best Forumer (Post 9177712)
I didnt know there was such a thing.

Yeah, a lot of Houston neighborhoods have a management district; Heights, Kirby, Montrose, etc. I agree about the Kirby area, if I could swing it, I would have a townhouse around the Virginia St./ Ferndale area.

Urbannizer Feb 3, 2021 7:54 AM

’Disco Kroger’ Site Sold for Montrose Redevelopment

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HOUSTON – (Realty News Report) – The so-called “Disco Kroger” store in the Montrose area has been sold to a Georgia-based real estate developer that will demolish the empty grocery and build something new.

The Kroger store, located in the heart of the LGBTQ+ neighborhood, was operated 24 hours a day at one time. After the Montrose area clubs closed for the night, the grocery store would often have a steady stream of late-night shoppers, including cross-dressed customers in the early morning hours.

Disco Kroger closed earlier this year. The windows are boarded up. Graffiti grows quickly. The wrecking ball arrives soon. Kroger headquarters says the store did not generate enough profit.

The property was acquired by the Southeastern Real Estate Group, which is based in Augusta, Ga. Southeastern representatives did not return messages left Tuesday afternoon.

However the firm is expected to develop retail and multifamily on the site.

The Best Forumer Feb 3, 2021 10:58 PM

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Originally Posted by JManc (Post 9178503)
Yeah, a lot of Houston neighborhoods have a management district; Heights, Kirby, Montrose, etc. I agree about the Kirby area, if I could swing it, I would have a townhouse around the Virginia St./ Ferndale area.

Thanks for the info on the mgmt districts...

And yes... the area you mention is quite nice.

TexasPlaya Feb 4, 2021 3:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Urbannizer (Post 9178958)

Awesome, this corner of Montrose is finally turning a page. I used to live a few blocks from this Krogers about 10 years ago and they were putting the finishing touches on the remodel. Then HEB came and ate their lunch.

JManc Feb 4, 2021 10:19 PM

It's cool and sad at the same time; Montrose was a pretty funky area back in the day (hence Disco Kroger) and now it's become a rapidly overpriced and sterile area. The developments are awesome but something is still lost in the process. My wife and I went on our first date at the Starbucks across the street.

HouinLooper Feb 5, 2021 6:32 PM

Who says Houston is slowing down? $1.9 Billion in downtown construction alone.
https://www.houstonchronicle.com/bus...a-chron-result

photoLith Feb 5, 2021 7:12 PM

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Originally Posted by JManc (Post 9181116)
It's cool and sad at the same time; Montrose was a pretty funky area back in the day (hence Disco Kroger) and now it's become a rapidly overpriced and sterile area. The developments are awesome but something is still lost in the process. My wife and I went on our first date at the Starbucks across the street.

Even when I lived downtown in 2010-12, Montrose was still fairly funky but I recently went back and all the old bars and cool art studios I used to hangout in are mostly gone. I never got to see Montrose in the 90s or 80s but I bet it was super cool and also run down Id imagine.

JManc Feb 5, 2021 9:46 PM

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Originally Posted by photoLith (Post 9181887)
Even when I lived downtown in 2010-12, Montrose was still fairly funky but I recently went back and all the old bars and cool art studios I used to hangout in are mostly gone. I never got to see Montrose in the 90s or 80s but I bet it was super cool and also run down Id imagine.

I was a kid in the 80's but remember it being pretty eclectic and then moved back down here in the late 90's when they still had the Westheimer Street Fest and when the Pride Parade was still there before it was moved downtown and became a giant commercialized event.

AviationGuy Feb 6, 2021 4:03 AM

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Originally Posted by JManc (Post 9182063)
I was a kid in the 80's but remember it being pretty eclectic and then moved back down here in the late 90's when they still had the Westheimer Street Fest and when the Pride Parade was still there before it was moved downtown and became a giant commercialized event.

In the 70s, there was a stretch of Westheimer in that area that was lined with very good ethnic restaurants. My parents took me to a Greek restaurant on that stretch. It was really good, and the dancers made us all blush.

When I would come home from college in the 70s, I would escape in the evenings and head right for Montrose. There was a bar called the Farmhouse that use to be a huge mansion. That's where I saw Paul Lynde, who was totally obnoxious and not funny like on Hollywood Squares.

At that time, a lot of Montrose didn't feel safe and looked pretty seedy. Some parts were not bad at all, like where my grandparents lived on Vermont, across the street from Dan Rather. It's a nice area now, but definitely not funky like it was.

TexasPlaya Feb 6, 2021 5:29 AM

From my experience, Lower Westheimer / Montrose is a seedier environment with Rice Village demographics but you can still bar hop. Going back to the management districts, Montrose's has been notoriously corrupt and ineffective. The state of Lower Westheimer is pretty inexcusable, it's not just the broken sidewalks but the awful street lighting.

The Best Forumer Feb 9, 2021 10:16 PM

Can the montrose management district leadership be... re-elected?

TexasPlaya Feb 10, 2021 6:34 PM

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Originally Posted by The Best Forumer (Post 9186038)
Can the montrose management district leadership be... re-elected?

Technically the shell of the old management district exists, Montrose Tax Increment Reinvestment Zone (TIRZ). A TIRZ captures a small chunk of the taxes from an area to reinvest in infrastructure, parks, etc. All these areas (midtown, downtown, upper kirby, montrose, etc) have TIRZs and they are managed by various pseudo private/public "management districts"/ ""redevelopment authorities". Like anything... it's only as a good as the people running it.

It looks like the Montrose TIRZ is trying to start over with a new plan.

https://communityimpact.com/houston/...treach-effort/

TexasPlaya Feb 10, 2021 7:04 PM

Minute Maid Park Mixed-Use

Historic home in Minute Maid Park's shadow on the move - again

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In the shadow of Minute Maid Park stands a little blue Victorian, dwarfed like the house in “Up” by the massive scale of the buildings surrounding it — three sports stadiums, the convention center and its nearby hotels and skyscrapers. But not for long.

The Houston Astros purchased the 1.738 acres where it and a historic locomotive sits through an affiliate for $17 million in 2019 and broke ground this week on what will eventually become a retail and residential development. Meantime, the storied home and train will be relocated; an excavator dismantled the small retail strip where HTX Fan Tavern and Home Plate Bar & Grill once stood Tuesday afternoon. The plan short term is to use the land as a parking lot, said Anita Sehgal, Astros senior vice president of marketing and communications.

The design for the mixed-use development has not been finalized.

The City of Houston will pay for moving the blue-and-white wooden home, known as the Cohn House, one block north of Minute Maid. Arthur Cohn, its first resident, helped found what is now Rice University.....
They are moving the historical homes and train engine but they knocked down the dilapidated bars in the dilapidated historical structure. Seems like it will be a parking lot for the near term, especially with regular season baseball starting early April. Rumors on HAIF is that it will be retail and residential.

TexasPlaya Feb 10, 2021 7:35 PM

Memorial Park

Well on their way constructing this:

https://res.cloudinary.com/sagacity/...ltz_mcvxu6.png

Reconstructing Memorial Park Drive and connecting the southern and northern portions with a land bridge.

This is one major project of several involving Memorial Park, which was devastated by a major drought several years back. The Eastern Glades is complete and the Sports Complex is well on its way too.

https://www.memorialparkconservancy....r/master-plan/

Twitter1 Feb 14, 2021 4:40 AM

Hyatt Hotel

https://i.imgur.com/oqMgIoE.jpg

Twitter1 Feb 22, 2021 3:43 AM

Photo of the week: Same Hyatt Hotel in the TMC.

https://i.imgur.com/BzC1PEF.jpg

The Best Forumer Feb 23, 2021 6:57 PM

Thanks twitter1! Renders of the final product?

Twitter1 Mar 1, 2021 2:23 AM

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Originally Posted by The Best Forumer (Post 9198727)
Thanks twitter1! Renders of the final product?

https://i.imgur.com/IzEsIiJ.jpg

From yesterday

https://i.imgur.com/csaT1Q5.jpg

TexasBoi Mar 1, 2021 5:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Twitter1 (Post 9203585)

:yuck:

bilbao58 Mar 1, 2021 5:42 PM

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Originally Posted by TexasBoi (Post 9203944)
:yuck:

BIG TIME :yuck: !

colemonkee Mar 1, 2021 7:24 PM

^ This was clearly designed by someone who does not enjoy their job.

mousquet Mar 1, 2021 9:54 PM

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Originally Posted by colemonkee (Post 9204089)
^ This was clearly designed by someone who does not enjoy their job.

It is simply upsetting, an insult to mankind. A shame, today in 2021.
Heck, it even almost makes some crappy social housing designed by some communist suburbs over here look good.

Often, I tell myself - the Communists want to enslave everybody, taking us all down to insulting mediocrity, because they are selfish and want power on us all.

But this... Sweet Christ, not in my town. Ever.

llamaorama Mar 2, 2021 8:00 AM

The good news is if there is a car fire in the parking garage all you got to do is drain the pool.

colemonkee Mar 2, 2021 3:53 PM

Haha! True. I was going to note that the only redeeming quality of the design is that they placed the pool above the parking ramp to allow for a deeper deep end of the pool, but I doubt that is even the case.

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Originally Posted by llamaorama (Post 9204761)
The good news is if there is a car fire in the parking garage all you got to do is drain the pool.


bilbao58 Mar 2, 2021 4:17 PM

I will say, the fact that this is a hotel meant to cater to out-of-town or international families with loved ones being treated at the nearby Texas Medical Center, affordable utility was likely the overriding design concern. But still...YIKES! And that is the back, though the front is only slightly less offensive.

bilbao58 Mar 2, 2021 4:30 PM

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Originally Posted by mousquet (Post 9204285)
But this... Sweet Christ, not in my town. Ever.

T'es sûr? :P

https://cdn4.hotelopia.com/giata/big...a_hb_a_130.jpg
https://www.geprif-developpement.fr/...e_italie_2.jpg

houston19514 Mar 2, 2021 6:55 PM

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Originally Posted by bilbao58 (Post 9204977)
I will say, the fact that this is a hotel meant to cater to out-of-town or international families with loved ones being treated at the nearby Texas Medical Center, affordable utility was likely the overriding design concern. But still...YIKES! And that is the back, though the front is only slightly less offensive.

FWIW, here's the rendering of the front.

https://communityimpact.com/uploads/.../04/100529.jpghttps://communityimpact.com/uploads/.../04/100529.jpg

JManc Mar 3, 2021 2:40 AM

The Hyatt will be in a rather blah part of the TMC anyway....next door to a Subway surrounded by a bunch of long vacant lots and some ancillary medical buildings.

mousquet Mar 3, 2021 6:39 PM

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Originally Posted by bilbao58 (Post 9204991)
T'es sûr? :P

Yeah, well, those are old middle-range Accor hotels, especially the 1st you picked.
That's no 5-star New York City Sofitel in which a French maid would get raped by an ugly French politician.
Referring to that shocking story.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_York_v._Strauss-Kahn

;) Bloody French Socialist politician to rape a regular French maid...
Who did he think he was? He is ugly, old-fashioned, worthless Socialist establishment...
No woman would be seduced by that retarded, sadistic psycho.
He has to pay the price for prostitutes to satisfy his weird fantasies.
I hope he dies in pain...

Crap, people can do better than that for a reasonable price today.
This is no longer the 1970s or 80s, huh.

The Best Forumer Mar 3, 2021 8:56 PM

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Originally Posted by JManc (Post 9205664)
The Hyatt will be in a rather blah part of the TMC anyway....next door to a Subway surrounded by a bunch of long vacant lots and some ancillary medical buildings.

For some reason... this made me giggle... A LOT.

Twitter1 Mar 8, 2021 2:06 AM

For Sale sign spotted at Richmond & Buffalo Speedway. Very lucrative land. High probability something tall would go here.

https://i.imgur.com/QM7RZNZ.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/UZmhp17.jpg

JManc Mar 8, 2021 4:52 PM

^ that whole area is ripe for redevelopment. Most of the buildings around there are MCM era that are crumbling and weren't well built to begin with.

JoninATX Mar 8, 2021 6:38 PM

Elon Musk investing in the Houston area
 
Tesla is making a giant battery to plug into the Texas power grid

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Tesla is making a giant battery to plug into Texas' power grid, Bloomberg reported on Monday.

Gambit Energy Storage, a subsidiary of the electric-car giant, is developing a battery-energy-storage project in Brazoria County, Texas.

The system is registered with the Electric Reliability Council of Texas, the state's power-grid operator. An ERCOT filing from August gave the project an expected commercial opening date of June 1, 2021, and said it has capacity to store 100 megawatts of energy.

That would be enough to power 20,000 homes on a hot day, Bloomberg reported.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bus...y-2021-3%3famp

The Best Forumer Mar 9, 2021 2:51 PM

I wonder what it will look like.

Twitter1 Mar 15, 2021 1:04 AM

Class-A office on San Felipe.

https://i.imgur.com/xbXcw0K.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/aYyopx5.jpg

The Best Forumer Mar 15, 2021 5:43 PM

Looks like it is just starting.

Twitter1 Mar 29, 2021 1:40 AM

https://i.imgur.com/wY66zeQ.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/xZxhsDA.jpg

The Best Forumer Mar 29, 2021 7:21 AM

Why the palms? These kind are useless.

SupaK Mar 31, 2021 2:59 PM

Drove by the construction site of the block enclosed by Drew, Helena, Dennis, and Albany Streets. Looks like the parking ramp is starting to rise above the ground.

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...e485dd0a_b.jpg102 Dennis St, Houston, TX

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...11ae9075_b.jpg102 Dennis St, Houston, TX

SupaK Mar 31, 2021 3:10 PM

Also, the Spec's, Half Price Books, and 24 hour Emergency room on Westheimer (across from Kung Fu Tea) is now almost fully demolished.

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...d697a64a_b.jpg1011 Westheimer Rd, Houston, TX

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...81d4a585_b.jpg1011 Westheimer Rd, Houston, TX

bilbao58 Mar 31, 2021 3:42 PM

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Originally Posted by SupaK (Post 9234368)
Also, the Spec's, Half Price Books, and 24 hour Emergency room on Westheimer (across from Kung Fu Tea) is now almost fully demolished.

That parking lot entrance on Yoakum just feet from Westheimer always irritated the hell out of me.

SupaK Mar 31, 2021 3:54 PM

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Originally Posted by bilbao58 (Post 9234409)
That parking lot entrance on Yoakum just feet from Westheimer always irritated the hell out of me.

Ha, yea it was super steep and just right by the light and people wouldn't let you in or out the parking lot entrance and stuff. One of the many joys of Houston driving :-)

The Best Forumer Mar 31, 2021 5:25 PM

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Originally Posted by SupaK (Post 9234368)
Also, the Spec's, Half Price Books, and 24 hour Emergency room on Westheimer (across from Kung Fu Tea) is now almost fully demolished.

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...d697a64a_b.jpg1011 Westheimer Rd, Houston, TX

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...81d4a585_b.jpg1011 Westheimer Rd, Houston, TX

Thanks for the updates, brew.

JManc Mar 31, 2021 5:41 PM

Is that the strip center on corner of Westheimer and Montrose? That intersection will look radically different now.

SupaK Mar 31, 2021 7:57 PM

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Originally Posted by JManc (Post 9234565)
Is that the strip center on corner of Westheimer and Montrose? That intersection will look radically different now.

Yup, south of Westheimer across from that Shake Shack and Circle K gas station north of Westheimer. I'm so used to seeing that Half Price Bookstore there, it kinda saddened me. But Houston's always changing, lots of construction projects.

JManc Apr 1, 2021 1:53 AM

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Originally Posted by SupaK (Post 9234756)
Yup, south of Westheimer across from that Shake Shack and Circle K gas station north of Westheimer. I'm so used to seeing that Half Price Bookstore there, it kinda saddened me. But Houston's always changing, lots of construction projects.

That location was the 'new' Half Price Books. Used to be in an old house a few blocks away. I wonder if they stayed in the area or just downsized locations. Rice University area lost theirs a few years ago.

The Best Forumer Apr 5, 2021 6:17 PM

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Originally Posted by JManc (Post 9235116)
That location was the 'new' Half Price Books. Used to be in an old house a few blocks away. I wonder if they stayed in the area or just downsized locations. Rice University area lost theirs a few years ago.

I remember when they were in that house... wow.

bilbao58 Apr 6, 2021 12:34 AM

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Originally Posted by JManc (Post 9235116)
That location was the 'new' Half Price Books. Used to be in an old house a few blocks away. I wonder if they stayed in the area or just downsized locations. Rice University area lost theirs a few years ago.

It was actually an old church.

bilbao58 Apr 7, 2021 5:50 PM

Sneak peak at Houston's future Ismaili Center? Hat tip to Urbannizer on HAIF
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...8cd12571_k.jpg
Future Ismaili Center Gardens


Courtesy Thomas Hogge_Core Samples at Issuu.com https://issuu.com/cthogge/docs/21022...ortfolio-pages

kingkirbythe.... Apr 7, 2021 5:57 PM

That looks pretty nice!


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