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Nv_2897 Jan 11, 2023 4:38 AM

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Originally Posted by SDfan (Post 9834474)
Interesting! I can't find any renders of this online. Anyone got any?

Here are some renders I found on the city's ArcGIS zoning map.

City of San Diego Link: https://webmaps.sandiego.gov/portal/...5585cae48/data

https://i.imgur.com/DawUxu2.png

https://i.imgur.com/dykV3Y1.png

https://i.imgur.com/LrUvA2n.png

https://i.imgur.com/LefT4cd.png

https://i.imgur.com/OfM9neA.png

https://i.imgur.com/uY1g4qW.png

dl3000 Jan 11, 2023 4:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Nv_2897 (Post 9835766)
Here are some renders I found on the city's ArcGIS zoning map.

City of San Diego Link: https://webmaps.sandiego.gov/portal/...5585cae48/data

Oh hell yes!

Streamliner Jan 11, 2023 10:06 PM

Wow, much better. At 37-stories/415 feet, this will add a nice amount of density to the skyline here. In fact, this whole area is filling in really well. The 36-story tower at Union and Ash is topped off now. Savina is also 36 stories and is a couple blocks to the west. The Lindley is 37 stories, and I think they're still planning a couple towers on the City's land two blocks to the east. We just need someone to build Two America Plaza now.

homebucket Jan 11, 2023 10:47 PM

Good height and massing. I like how slim it looks from the east and west.

Architecture wise, it leaves a lot of room for improvement though. Rather bland, generic design and cheap materials. Should place the parking garage underground and get rid of the podium. Would've liked to see a higher % affordable component included as well.

Streamliner Jan 11, 2023 11:43 PM

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Originally Posted by homebucket (Post 9836656)
Good height and massing. I like how slim it looks from the east and west.

Architecture wise, it leaves a lot of room for improvement though. Rather bland, generic design and cheap materials. Should place the parking garage underground and get rid of the podium. Would've liked to see a higher % affordable component included as well.


I agree with the architecture comment. It's got this awkward facade that makes it look like two separate buildings were plopped on top of each other, neither of which are that interesting to look at. But yeah the massing is good.

As for the parking garage, looking at the sheets it appears that all parking is underground.

brg654 Jan 12, 2023 4:40 AM

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Originally Posted by homebucket (Post 9836656)
Should place the parking garage underground and get rid of the podium. Would've liked to see a higher % affordable component included as well.

those are competing goals. underground parking is very expensive to build and makes affordable housing prohibitive.

Nv_2897 Jan 12, 2023 5:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Streamliner (Post 9836617)
Wow, much better. At 37-stories/415 feet, this will add a nice amount of density to the skyline here. In fact, this whole area is filling in really well. The 36-story tower at Union and Ash is topped off now. Savina is also 36 stories and is a couple blocks to the west. The Lindley is 37 stories, and I think they're still planning a couple towers on the City's land two blocks to the east. We just need someone to build Two America Plaza now.

:previous:

Agreed, so excited to see this section of the city start to bulk up!!

gjime196 Jan 17, 2023 3:58 PM

MLS at SnapDragon
 
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Originally Posted by HurricaneHugo (Post 9827698)
I believe Snapdragon can be expanded up to 55,000 no?

That would be the better option

And put some shade while you're at it

There are strong rumors that there will be an MLS expansion team coming to San Diego soon. They will add roof cover over seating areas, along with other modifications. But they will keep the seating capacity as is.

Streamliner Jan 18, 2023 6:31 PM

Proposed Little Italy office project would be the neighborhood’s biggest
Kilroy is seeking approval of a 9-story, 137-foot tall office building with ground-floor retail at 2045 Pacific Highway
BY JENNIFER VAN GROVE
January 17, 2023

https://www.sandiegouniontribune.com...rhoods-biggest

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Currently home to a Mobil gas station and a car wash, the full city block facing San Diego Bay at 2045 Pacific Highway in Little Italy is on track to become the neighborhood’s largest — and likely nicest — office building with a developer seeking approval of a nine-story project that will also include ground-floor shops.

Last month, publicly traded real estate investment trust Kilroy Realty submitted an application for a coastal development permit and neighborhood development permit for a 137-foot tall mixed-use development with 309,000 square feet of office space and 12,000 square feet of retail space on the 1.3-acre lot, public records show.
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With more than 300,000 square feet of planned office space, Kilroy’s 2045 Pacific Highway project is noticeably bigger than the firm’s existing Little Italy building and is seemingly incongruous with current market dynamics.
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The project is currently being reviewed by staff in San Diego’s Development Services Department. It does not require Planning Commission or City Council approval. The property, however, falls within San Diego International Airport’s approach overlay zone, meaning the developer’s desire to build above 85 feet requires sign-off from the Federal Aviation Administration.
No photos or renders, but that site could use a nice 130+ foot building. It would have great views of the Bay and the County park.

JSW Jan 18, 2023 8:56 PM

The giant parking lot right next to that lot is criminal use of waterfrontage. Who owns it?

BuildSanDiego Jan 20, 2023 1:41 AM

Fairmount Manchester Hotel San Diego
 
https://www.hospitalitynet.org/pictu...g?t=1674115523. 36 story tower, designed by Gensler. Expected opening 2027 Diego
Fairmont Continues US Expansion with Signing of Fairmont Manchester San Diego
Scheduled for 20271160 RoomsSan Diego Demand Trends
Fairmont Hotels
Accor
4 min read19 January 2023
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Fairmont Manchester San Diego — Photo by Accor
Fairmont Hotels & Resorts, part of world leading hospitality group Accor, and Manchester Financial Group today announced the signing of definitive agreements for the development and management of a Fairmont hotel in downtown San Diego, California.

Scheduled to open in 2027, Fairmont Manchester San Diego will occupy a prime location on the North Embarcadero of the San Diego Bay, directly across from the USS Midway Aircraft Museum, adjacent to the Cruise Ship Terminal, and within walking distance of the San Diego Convention Center and the famed Gaslamp Quarter. The hotel is part of a landmark development transforming San Diego's downtown waterfront with over 5 acres of green space and more than 1.7 million square feet of best-in-class offices, retail, restaurants, public art and entertainment.

The elegant 36-story glass tower will feature 1,160 rooms, including 69 suites and Fairmont Gold, the brand's distinctive hotel-within-a-hotel experience boasting VIP service, exclusive lounge and private reception desk. High-end amenities will include luxury spa and fitness facilities, rooftop pool, and more than 120,000 square feet of indoor and outdoor meeting space, including two 20,000 square-foot ballrooms. The hotel will welcome both guests and locals to six dining venues, including a 160-seat signature restaurant, coastal Baja cuisine, noodle shop, rooftop poolside grill, gourmet café, and lobby bar, each offering both indoor and outdoor seating to take advantage of San Diego's picturesque weather.

Working in close collaboration with Accor's Luxury Design & Technical Services team, Gensler will serve as both architect and interior designer for the development, bringing to life a unique contemporary vision, melding Art Deco and Mid-Century Modern influences. The soaring all-glass façade will be warmed and illuminated by touches of bronze. The interiors will be adorned with rich fabrics, large-scale art installations, and vibrant pops of blue and bronze, framing unmatched views of the San Diego Bay and city skyline, and flowing seamlessly into exterior spaces, giving the building a sense of place along the waterfront.

SamFlood Jan 20, 2023 3:39 AM

Here's some of the renderings of the above mentioned project

https://www.hospitalitynet.org/pictu...g?t=1674115523

https://www.hospitalitynet.org/pictu...g?t=1674115722

HurricaneHugo Jan 20, 2023 7:16 AM

If you're going to block Pacific Gateway, at least make it prettier...

SDCAL Jan 20, 2023 9:08 PM

Who designs this and actually think it looks nice?

It’s literally an insult to our city to have something so ugly and underwhelming on a prime bay view spot. Even the room interior looks dated and gross, and by 2027 it will be even more so.

BuildSanDiego Jan 20, 2023 11:59 PM

Fairmount Hotel
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by HurricaneHugo (Post 9844209)
If you're going to block Pacific Gateway, at least make it prettier...

Gensler San Diego is the architectural firm designing the hotel.

SDfan Jan 21, 2023 6:26 PM

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"Chula Vista doesn’t have a skyline. This developer hopes to change that"

"Bayview Point would occupy the E Street side with a four-story medical center, retail and more than 260 affordable housing units. The F Street area would include two luxury residential towers of up to 22 stories and about 500 units, collectively. There would also be a fitness center and spa. A 24-story, five-star hotel with about 400 rooms and condos, a restaurant, a roof deck and meeting spaces are also proposed on this side."

https://www.sandiegouniontribune.com...t-the-bayfront
Renders in article. 5 star hotel in West Chula Vista? Sure...

FromSD Jan 21, 2023 7:16 PM

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Originally Posted by SDCAL (Post 9844798)
Who designs this and actually think it looks nice?

It’s literally an insult to our city to have something so ugly and underwhelming on a prime bay view spot. Even the room interior looks dated and gross, and by 2027 it will be even more so.

A fitting tribute to Doug Manchester, former proprietor of the San Diego UT.

Streamliner Jan 23, 2023 4:58 PM

Isn't Chula Vista outside of any flight restrictions? They should go all out and build supertalls. Do what Downtown can't.

Realistically speaking, this area could become a next University City at the very least. It's got good transit and freeway links. The Gaylord development is going up nearby.

aekrid Jan 23, 2023 6:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Streamliner (Post 9846529)
Isn't Chula Vista outside of any flight restrictions? They should go all out and build supertalls. Do what Downtown can't.

Realistically speaking, this area could become a next University City at the very least. It's got good transit and freeway links. The Gaylord development is going up nearby.

It's definitely starting to ramp up. Looks like E-St trolley station is getting redeveloped.


https://ca-times.brightspotcdn.com/d...view-point.png

https://www.sandiegouniontribune.com...t-the-bayfront

SDfan Jan 28, 2023 5:58 PM

And it's dead:

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San Diego plans to pull plug on downtown Ritz Carlton project after years of delays

San Diego is ready to pull the plug on a long-delayed development deal promising a Ritz Carlton hotel, housing and office space on city-owned land in East Village.

On Friday, the city notified developer Cisterra and its partners that it intends to terminate the nearly 7-year-old agreement because the group won’t meet crucial deadlines for financing and breaking ground on the $700 million project at Seventh Avenue and Market Street.

https://www.sandiegouniontribune.com...ears-of-delays


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