Good to know. Glad that NIMBYS have "voice" just to change the cantilever.

That is very promising indeed. At the skyscraper museum's "sky high" exhibit, it's mentioned that there are about 6 other projects in various states of development and approval that declined to participate.




Yes, the community board vote is advisory, however final say is with the LPC, and the cb vote could very well influence that.

But if we can get rid of the cantilever, then the tower is on a better track, I don't care if it's higher or lower. Things have pretty much gone Extell's way, but I don't know if that cantilever is in the bag. With any luck, it'll be shot down.


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So its an as of right site but if the LPC votes against the cantilever then he will have to remove it?

He can do anything he wants with the available air-rights, but he can't do that.

So if the the cantilever is rejected (fingers crossed) and 220 supposedly being a considerably tall tower i'm excited to see what Extell will do next.

There are options for the site. I understand that Extell doesn't one a competitor's tower in the middle of his Central Park views. But 220 will only rise so tall. I doubt that the top 25% of Extell's tower would be blocked in any form.

In it's current configuration, the sites are almost head on, even with the cantilever.


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It seems that our suspicions are correct.

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/10/16/ny...Xw2KmVjpvvk1yA

They better reject it then lol.

It looks like the League accepted Extell's offer. That's why he's doing the cantilever. However, all of it is contingent on whether the LPC will approve it.

Let's hope the LPC disapproves the cantilever, thus forcing a redesign.

^ well, the rationale behind the cantilever seems to arise primarily out of the deal with vornado to that neither site would block the other (suggesting that vornado intends to build 220 cps on the western portion of w58th rather than on the park directly) and the secondary/stated rationale is to provide nordstrom with "column free" space on their floors.

given these rationales, both of which are very important to the success of the project (as currently defined), i see barnett doing absolutely everything to get it through, which is unfortunate, given how ugly it is.

I would even be fine with a reduced height, so long as they lost the cantilever.

And the plot thickens....maybe this will rise to 1,550 ft after all

It's like almost every week now there's something to look forward to. Next week, it's the LPC meeting for this one. I feel it could go either way here.


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Exciting times for sure. Remember when we were happy that the BofA and NYTT towers would break 1000 feet? Admittedly with a spire, but still. And now it's hard to keep track of all those supertalls (already over 20!). With "smaller" towers it's nearly impossible. Never thought we would experience such a boom, especially not so early.

Anyway, I hope they lose the cantilever and the tower exceeds 1,500'. :yes:

^same here

The cantilever would ensure that more of the apartments in Mr. Barnett’s building would have clear views of Central Park. If the league turns down his offer, Mr. Barnett said he would raise the height of the tower to 1,500 feet, from 1,400 feet.

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I hope they will kill the cantilever.

I feel that they will kill it. Considering the location, it demands top notch architecture. An eye sore here would be a travesty no matter what the height is. NY isn't all about height, its about beauty.

Yes I do. In fact, the Times ran a piece on it's own headquarters building rising that high, despite 9/11.



I agree with that, height isn't everything, especially at this time when we are getting so many great proposals that will alter the skyline. This building doesn't really have to be the tallest as far as I'm concerned. However, those Central Park views are the "money shot" as far as Barnett is concerned, and the only logical thing to do is raise the tower higher so more units in his tower can avoid the 920 ft 220 CPS.

We'll see what happens next week.