I don't know about 2k, but maybe more than 1,55O

2k definitely seems like a stretch but even 1600 would be amazing.

Screw 1WTC's "honorary title" that it reaches with a 400 foot spire, Barnett should crash right through that height limit.

Lets hope. Ideally, 1800 feet would be nice (roof + spire). Personally, I'd rather see a megatall if that day does happen or something in the 1900 foot range in Lower Manhattan. While its nice that Midtown gets many of these supertalls, with the right design, it can really stand out at the tip of the island. This being hypothetical, but if we had a proposal in the future with an amazing crown, and one that resembles a modern twist on the peaks of 1930, definitely downtown is where it will shine.

I hope Barnett surprises us. This is one of those cases where ego matters!!!

^^
Could NYC soon be in the 2,000-foot-tall skyscraper era?

Cement and steel doubled in strength the past 10 years, will get even stronger
http://therealdeal.com/blog/2015/07/....DPnl4iyQ.dpuf

http://s11.therealdeal.com/trd/up/20...rk-2030-VH.jpg

I think of it more as a function of economics and not engineering. Towers of 2000 ft or greater could be built with the current engineering at hand (very strong Manhattan schist), but it comes down to land prices and tight space.

As prices keep on increasing for property acquisitions, there going to be a point where developers have to build "X" amount of height with "Y" amount of units just to recuperate their original soft costs. Sometimes, even the soft costs exceed the hard. At least in Manhattan, which is where something of this range would be.

The Midtown rezoning promises to be a potential candidate area for such a tower. Hopefully one that is multi-use, with tons of class-A space, a hotel, and even residential. Topped off by a nice crown, and since this is NYC, a nice spire. I could see that being the next megatall. But... I hope I'm wrong and that we see one to the roof. :yes: :worship:

Still, an increase in material strength is always good. If somehow the price for it can remain stable, I see a lot of promise not just for NYC, but other cities (U.S.) who also need to join the supertall ranks.

A tower such as Nordstrom is not an NYC feat, but a national feat of engineering and architecture. While NYC has most of the supertalls rising at the moment, at the end of the day, mother country comes first, and in terms of pride and competitiveness, every city matters within the grand picture.

I agree, Zap. I'd be thrilled with 1600. 1609 would be nice to mark Henry Hudson's Voyage to NY on behalf of the Dutch.

That is an attractive suggestion JR!

Thanks!

I forgot about this. The Lend Lease guys must have been wrong.


http://www.yimbynews.com/2015/06/new...rom-tower.html

Perhaps they changed it?

In any case 1,522 is giant, so no worries there.

I agree with you, Zap. :cheers:

This needs an encore:

http://www.yimbynews.com/wp-content/...4-TpTpkz0.webp

:worship:

We presently have Park Lane, 31 W 57th, Hadassah, the Baptist Church, and 52-56 W 57th on deck!

only in NY, lads!

^On one street ALONE. Insane! This is the Age, JR

I agree, Skyguy!

I can't imagine that Morris Jeffries will not combine 52-56 W 57th with its huge, 1960s era market-rate rental. That would yield an utterly gigantic site!

PS: I forgot about 4 other very possible supertalls in the general vicinity:

1. The site on 60th and Lex;
2. The American Bible Museum site on
3. 1710 Broadway; and
4. The Mahattan Hotel site recently purchased by the Qataris.

1710 Broadway looks promising. Qataris promises to be on the level of many towers in the ultra-luxury realm, while 1710 could be a mixed used given the area.

I agree, Chris. This is amazing!

American Bible Museum site will not be a supertall. However, there is another possible supertall in the vicinity of the others that is not on your list. Stay tuned.

Nice! Without giving the address, can you give us the avenue and cross streets?

JD Carlisle's site on 55th is a candidate.

the 1522' number isn't necessarily final, it can still be changed and could easily end up taller. Its simply the latest DOB we have access to.