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ninjakafi_81 Apr 27, 2023 5:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Denscity (Post 9929591)
Losing Singapore sucks and were still not worried about getting Dubai on AC.

I wonder what's the likelihood of AC starting up YVR-SIN.

Denscity Apr 27, 2023 5:09 AM

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Originally Posted by ninjakafi_81 (Post 9929630)
I wonder what's the likelihood of AC starting up YVR-SIN.

Ya same.

Dominion301 Apr 27, 2023 6:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Denscity (Post 9929635)
Ya same.

Yield or did the loads not recover as overall traffic recovers?

Denscity Apr 27, 2023 7:04 PM

O and D isn't huge but Vancouver has the whole country to funnel into a flight to Singapore.
Not sure about yield tho.

LeftCoaster Apr 27, 2023 11:06 PM

I find it baffling that SIN was axed, but the yields must not have been hitting. SIA definitely has the right plane for the route.

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Originally Posted by hollywoodcory (Post 9929546)
Load wise, the YYC-Euro routes have been very good. Advance bookings (including NRT) also look very good too.

I don't doubt they'll fill the planes, I do question the yields they are going to be hitting if they're scooping a lot of connecting traffic though.

thenoflyzone Apr 27, 2023 11:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Flemay (Post 9929364)
Don't want to rain on YYC but I hope YOW gets British Airways to LHR first. Imagine the only capital of a G7 country that doesn't have a nonstop or even direct flight to the British capital:shrug:

I just don’t see BA at YOW.

It’s going to be AC on YOW-LHR with the A321XLR most likely.

YOWhopeful Apr 27, 2023 11:38 PM

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Originally Posted by thenoflyzone (Post 9930440)
I just don’t see BA at YOW.

It’s going to be AC on YOW-LHR with the A321XLR most likely.

But why would Air Canada waste an LHR slot on such a small plane?

thenoflyzone Apr 27, 2023 11:39 PM

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Originally Posted by YOWhopeful (Post 9930449)
But why would Air Canada waste an LHR slot on such a small plane?

I mean, they wasted one on YYT-LHR with an even smaller plane for years.

king10 Apr 27, 2023 11:41 PM

YHM numbers are out. 645,789

https://twitter.com/flyyhm/status/16...s_6YHIiAYCRZfg

Flemay Apr 28, 2023 12:23 AM

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Originally Posted by thenoflyzone (Post 9930440)
I just don’t see BA at YOW.

It’s going to be AC on YOW-LHR with the A321XLR most likely.

They did fly a 767 daily nonstop for decades in the 90s and 2000s up until covid hit plus ×5 a week to FRA. You mean to tell me a city of 1 million and half can't do 1 daily ?:shrug:

ninjakafi_81 Apr 28, 2023 12:42 AM

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Originally Posted by LeftCoaster (Post 9930419)
I find it baffling that SIN was axed, but the yields must not have been hitting. SIA definitely has the right plane for the route

I wonder if the route would have succeed if the scheduling was better. It seemed like the route was poorly timed on both ends for connecting pax.

YOWhopeful Apr 28, 2023 12:50 AM

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Originally Posted by thenoflyzone (Post 9930452)
I mean, they wasted one on YYT-LHR with an even smaller plane for years.

Good point

People_talking Apr 28, 2023 2:58 AM

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Originally Posted by YOWhopeful (Post 9930449)
But why would Air Canada waste an LHR slot on such a small plane?

They're 'wasting' one on a max 8 from YHZ

Calfan12 Apr 28, 2023 4:00 AM

Looks like Air Canada plans to resume Calgary YYC- Honolulu HNL, Hawaii route 2-3x weekly on the Boeing 737Max 8.

AIR CANADA TO RESUME CALGARY – HONOLULU SERVICE IN NW23
Air Canada in Northern winter 2023/24 season intends to resume Calgary – Honolulu route, last served until April 2022. The seasonal route would see the airline offers 2 weekly flights from 29OCT23, increasing to 3 from 20DEC23.

Boeing 737 MAX 8 aircraft operates this route.

AC529 YYC1820 – 2250HNL 7M8 137
AC528 HNL2350 – 0923+1YYC 7M8 137

https://www.aeroroutes.com/eng/230420-achnl

Calfan12 Apr 28, 2023 4:43 AM

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Originally Posted by LeftCoaster (Post 9929350)
I don't think there is a more overserved airport to Europe in North America than YYC, so I definitely don't see anyone else jumping into the fray any time soon. If this recession has any teeth to it WS is in major trouble with its Europe program.

Yes, Calgary YYC has good number of Europe International flights✈️✅.

And YYC Airport authority has their focus on getting Asia flights again since end of 2019: With WestJet adding YYC to Tokyo Japan 3x weekly (Spring/Summer seasonal) flights from this upcoming Sunday April 30 2023 on WS Boeing 787-9, it will be 1st flight to Asia from YYC since (October 2019).

As for a recession *if* there was one, WestJet would just cut back on some Europe/International flying from its main hub at YYC.

nname Apr 28, 2023 4:49 AM

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Originally Posted by LeftCoaster (Post 9930419)
I find it baffling that SIN was axed, but the yields must not have been hitting. SIA definitely has the right plane for the route.

I think SQ's plane is too premium-heavy for the Canadian market. If AC operates the route, they would be using the 789 with similar fuel burn but configured to carry 45 more passengers.

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Originally Posted by ninjakafi_81 (Post 9930510)
I wonder if the route would have succeed if the scheduling was better. It seemed like the route was poorly timed on both ends for connecting pax.

Maybe it would do better if SQ intend for the route to stay for the long term. Better time, better connection is one. Or at the very least, update their website to put it on their global destination map...

hollywoodcory Apr 28, 2023 4:53 PM

WS is leasing some of its LGW slots to Eastern Airways this summer.

https://www.acl-uk.org/wp-content/up...CL-WEBSITE.jpg

GoTrans Apr 28, 2023 5:13 PM

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Originally Posted by People_talking (Post 9930572)
They're 'wasting' one on a max 8 from YHZ

This flight is a great way to get to Ottawa from Europe. No hassles in Halifax at customs, not crowded and a direct flight after a short wait to Ottawa. When I flew last summer both AC planes were full. The larger the airport, and the more airports the more delays and problems you have.

Ozabald Apr 28, 2023 5:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Flemay (Post 9929364)
Don't want to rain on YYC but I hope YOW gets British Airways to LHR first. Imagine the only capital of a G7 country that doesn't have a nonstop or even direct flight to the British capital:shrug:

YOW is similar to Berlin, Canberra and Wellington. Capital cities which have minimal international traffic at their airports (in Berlin's case, non-EU traffic) and are geographically close to their country's hub airport(s).

Dominion301 Apr 28, 2023 9:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Ozabald (Post 9931091)
YOW is similar to Berlin, Canberra and Wellington. Capital cities which have minimal international traffic at their airports (in Berlin's case, non-EU traffic) and are geographically close to their country's hub airport(s).

After having YOW-London service on AC since 1986, and trying to land CDG for years, it's ironic that this summer YOW will have CDG but not LHR or LGW.

It would be surprising for YOW-LHR to not eventually return...along with the former Rouge 767 routes. XLR on AC is the most likely outcome, even though AC had the 330 loaded for YOW-LHR in summer 2020 before all hell broke loose. It's too bad the XLR seems to be about a year behind schedule.


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