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NYguy Aug 26, 2018 7:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Zerton (Post 8292784)
Did anyone else notice the Hudson Yards model?

https://i.imgur.com/0l8lstW.jpg


Those are models for 360 10th Ave. We discussed it in that thread.

Skyguy_7 Aug 27, 2018 12:52 AM

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Originally Posted by dropdeaded209 (Post 8294316)
kinda funny how the pinstripe picks up the GM tower to the east--also some serious WTC yamasaki vibes at times...

Agreed. I believe the WTC vibes are intentional. It’s a very good look for NYC.

Zerton Aug 27, 2018 5:16 PM

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Originally Posted by NYguy (Post 8294436)
Those are models for 360 10th Ave. We discussed it in that thread.

Thanks, I'll check it out.

NYguy Aug 27, 2018 5:25 PM

^ Here's the link for that...
http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...=202568&page=6



https://web.stagram.com/p/Bm3zy7hAscB

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McSky Aug 27, 2018 5:56 PM

In that photo, the tower looks like some sort of crazy concept like a space elevator.

NYguy Aug 28, 2018 1:37 AM

https://www.instagram.com/p/BnANLJRl...ar_on_your_sky

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10023 Aug 29, 2018 1:17 AM

So this is going to be an unpopular opinion but, in person, this thing is way too skinny for its height. The proportions already look “off”, and it’s got what, 500ft to go?

NYguy Aug 29, 2018 2:06 AM

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Originally Posted by 10023 (Post 8297166)
So this is going to be an unpopular opinion but, in person, this thing is way too skinny for its height. The proportions already look “off”, and it’s got what, 500ft to go?

That's always been one of the things about this building - it's ultra thin. And it is a thing to behold, even at the current height. When complete, it'll be like a giant knife, or dagger into the sky.
It's unlike anything else. And for good measure, it's a beautiful building.



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pico44 Aug 29, 2018 3:10 AM

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Originally Posted by 10023 (Post 8297166)
So this is going to be an unpopular opinion but, in person, this thing is way too skinny for its height. The proportions already look “off”, and it’s got what, 500ft to go?



Hell, state however you feel, no need to fear giving an unpopular opinion.

Now in this case, you'd be undeniably and unequivocally wrong, but you'll come to see that someday. The facade will be complete. The crane gone. You'll be walking up Sixth Ave and this impossible stack of futuristic mansions will appear like a waterfall in some magical hidden valley. Oh yes, it'll happen. And--in what will become a regular sight in the ten blocks that surround this tower--you'll stop walking, you're neck will arch backwards, and the muscles holding your jaw closed will relax unconsciously. And then you'll see it. The mind-twisting engineering. The audacity and optimism of it. The utter beauty of all that bronze and glass and terra cotta. And you'll shake your head and start to laugh...

I can already see it in my head so I don't get to have that moment. I'm jealous of you.

PlusUltra Aug 29, 2018 3:52 AM

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Originally Posted by pico44 (Post 8297282)
Hell, state however you feel, no need to fear giving an unpopular opinion.

Now in this case, you'd be undeniably and unequivocally wrong, but you'll come to see that someday. The facade will be complete. The crane gone. You'll be walking up Sixth Ave and this impossible stack of futuristic mansions will appear like a waterfall in some magical hidden valley. Oh yes, it'll happen. And--in what will become a regular sight in the ten blocks that surround this tower--you'll stop walking, you're neck will arch backwards, and the muscles holding your jaw closed will relax unconsciously. And then you'll see it. The mind-twisting engineering. The audacity and optimism of it. The utter beauty of all that bronze and glass and terra cotta. And you'll shake your head and start to laugh...

I can already see it in my head so I don't get to have that moment. I'm jealous of you.


I tend to agree with the op. The massing is all wrong. Way too skinny for the height. Just doesn’t work. Although the bronze and terracotta are stunning this tower is way to skinny. Very awkward looking.

10023 Aug 29, 2018 10:01 AM

I get that the point is that it’s skinny. But seeing it when I was in town last week, and knowing that it has a lot higher to climb (unlike my companions, who already thought it was a weirdly skinny building), it just seems awkward. Like the only point of the design is to demonstrate just how tall and skinny a building can be made. It’s a demonstration of engineering prowess, but not a well-proportioned piece of architecture.

432 Park was about the limit in terms of “tall and skinny plain column”. This is kind of goofy, especially viewed from the park.

NYguy Aug 29, 2018 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by 10023 (Post 8297422)
I get that the point is that it’s skinny. But seeing it when I was in town last week, and knowing that it has a lot higher to climb (unlike my companions, who already thought it was a weirdly skinny building), it just seems awkward. Like the only point of the design is to demonstrate just how tall and skinny a building can be made. It’s a demonstration of engineering prowess, but not a well-proportioned piece of architecture.

432 Park was about the limit in terms of “tall and skinny plain column”. This is kind of goofy, especially viewed from the park.

432 Park is what it was. You didn't need to see it complete. However, this tower is still under construction, so you can't even see the proportions, especially where part of it is clad, and part of it isn't.

You're not used to seeing such a structure, and your mind is probably telling you it shouldn't be. But as you pointed out, engineering and technology are proving that it can. Let it get built, and then your criticisms can be fleshed out.


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Crawford Aug 29, 2018 12:19 PM

This will look less out-of-place when there are a half dozen vaguely similar towers along Billionaire's Row. You can see it with 432 Park, which used to look ungainly and now looks more "normal" with the advancing towers to the west.

WhatTheHeck5205 Aug 29, 2018 2:08 PM

I agree. It will definitely look less out-of-place as construction moves further along and the setbacks become more apparent. They go a long way in helping to give the building a “lighter” appearance and a better transition to the sky imo. The construction of Central Park Tower and others of similar size nearby will definitely help to make this tower less of a visual anomaly as well.

Zapatan Aug 29, 2018 3:00 PM

This might be my #1 favorite building. A true engineering marvel too :runaway:

Not too long before One57 gets overtaken yet again :)

Zerton Aug 29, 2018 5:16 PM

Imo this tower is leagues better than 432 Park. This is an example of how to do a super-skinny tower right.

chris08876 Aug 29, 2018 5:37 PM

Given the location, right next to the park, the tower (111 W 57th) could of been a catastrophe in the making. IF it had a poor design, looked bad... had Kaufman like design qualities. A nightmare... I know. Can you imagine a Peter Poon or Kaufman design at this height, near this prominent park? Would of been devastating, as would any poorly designed tower that would rank 1 through 5th tallest for "X" city.

Fortunately, such is not the case. Its not a nightmare, but a euphoric dream.

Point being, any tower that would have a significant impact on any skyline, also has the potential to ruin it. The taller it is, the more likely it is to occur.

Which for the most part, NY has had good luck with great looking super talls, especially this one.

BoM Trespasser Aug 29, 2018 6:12 PM

This is an Art Deco inspired building. Lean and stretching skywards. Beautiful.

NYguy Aug 31, 2018 3:38 AM

It is, and it's about to enter another exciting phase, as it begins to peak on the skyline, and the real fun with the setbacks begins.


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NYguy Sep 1, 2018 7:05 PM

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