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zahav Nov 29, 2017 4:44 AM

Good to see them increasing to Canada, too bad it's on destinations already served though, would be nice to add some new destinations :)

Anyone know the delay in Montreal posting their September stats? All the others have posted already.

p_xavier Nov 29, 2017 12:40 PM

http://www.newswire.ca/news-releases...660735553.html

Quote:

Air Canada Expands its North American Network with New Transborder Routes starting Spring 2018

Toronto to Omaha and Providence
Montreal to Baltimore and Pittsburgh
Vancouver to Sacramento
Edmonton to San Francisco
MONTREAL, Nov. 29, 2017 /CNW Telbec/ - Air Canada today announced several new non-stop year-round transborder routes will begin Spring 2018 from Toronto, Montreal, Edmonton and Vancouver.  All new flights are now available for purchase.

"We continue to strategically expand our already extensive North American transborder network to offer the only services from Canada to Sacramento, Omaha, Providence, and flights from additional Canadian airports to Baltimore, Pittsburgh and San Francisco," said Benjamin Smith, President, Passenger Airlines at Air Canada. "As the largest foreign carrier serving the USA, we are pleased to offer customers even more non-stop travel choices between Canada and the US, as well as the ability to conveniently connect onward through our extensive global network at our Canadian hubs on North America's Best Airline as rated by Skytrax."
All flights are timed to connect conveniently with Air Canada's global schedule, and provide for Aeroplan accumulation and redemption, Star Alliance reciprocal benefits, and for eligible customers, priority check-in, Maple Leaf Lounge access at mainline Canadian airports, priority boarding and other benefits.

Vancouver-Sacramento
Daily
May 17, 2018
Year-round
Air Canada Express 76
seat CRJ-705/900
Edmonton-San Francisco
Daily
May 1, 2018
Year-round
Air Canada Express 76
seat CRJ-705/900
Toronto-Omaha
Daily
May 1, 2018
Year-round
Air Canada Express 50-
seat CRJ
Toronto-Providence
Daily
May 17, 2018
Summer seasonal
Air Canada Express 50-
seat CRJ
Montreal-Baltimore
Daily
May 17, 2018
Year-round
Air Canada Express 50-
seat CRJ
Montreal-Pittsburgh
Daily
May 17, 2018
Year-round
Air Canada Express 50-
seat CRJ

Today's new routes complement Air Canada's previously announced new non-stop international services beginning 2018: Vancouver-Paris; Vancouver-Zurich; Vancouver-Melbourne, originally planned as winter seasonal now operating year-round starting June; Toronto-Shannon, Toronto-Zagreb; Toronto-Porto; Toronto-Bucharest; Toronto-Buenos Aires; Montreal-Tokyo-Narita; Montreal-Dublin; Montreal-Bucharest; and Montreal-Lisbon.

yyzer Nov 29, 2017 1:05 PM

Ukraine International Airlines have officially opened reservations for their new Kiev-Toronto service, effective June 6, 2018.... :)

PS241 KBP1110 – 1435YYZ 767 136
PS242 YYZ2315 – 1605+1KBP 767 136

Three times weekly with 767-300ER.

https://www.routesonline.com/news/38...-in-june-2018/

Coldrsx Nov 29, 2017 3:34 PM

Excellent.

Edmonton-San Francisco
Daily
May 1, 2018
Year-round
Air Canada Express 76
seat CRJ-705/900

thenoflyzone Nov 29, 2017 4:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Coldrsx (Post 8001413)
Excellent.

Edmonton-San Francisco
Daily
May 1, 2018
Year-round
Air Canada Express 76
seat CRJ-705/900

What? AC launching a US route out of YEG? That must be a mistake......;)

Hopefully the first of many.

Jaws Nov 29, 2017 5:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Coldrsx (Post 8001413)
Excellent.

Edmonton-San Francisco
Daily
May 1, 2018
Year-round
Air Canada Express 76
seat CRJ-705/900

Just about fell out of my chair...

jmt18325 Nov 29, 2017 5:06 PM

You guys are a riot.

J81 Nov 29, 2017 10:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rotten42 (Post 7998593)
Can you explain further? I mean I understand the United part but why Newark? I have to book a trip down south. My options are United threw Newark or Air Canada through T.O.

Ive flown through Newark numerous times. Terminal A is a dump. U have to take a bus to move between terminals. If you have to fly during peak hours you're going to be delayed guaranteed!

J81 Nov 29, 2017 10:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by esquire (Post 7998606)
^ Newark is fine. YYZ is a nicer airport but it's six of one, half dozen of the other. People in this thread just love to rag on whichever airline favours their city less than the competition.

Lol assumptions much? It has nothing to do with any of that. Simply my opinion based on my experiences.

GreaterMontréal Nov 29, 2017 10:33 PM

Montreal East: a new oil terminal could emerge

Quote:

...a major $ 150 million oil terminal project planned for Montreal East to supply airplane fuel at Trudeau, Ottawa and Pearson Airports in Toronto.
Quote:

...a new marine terminal, a transfer dock and eight giant tanks capable of storing a total of 164 million liters of fuel,
http://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/gr...ir-le-jour.php

LeftCoaster Nov 29, 2017 11:04 PM

Big day for Canadian Airports, YVR, YYC, YYZ, YUL and even YEG getting in on the action with new route announcements.

Can't remember a day with so many different airports getting a new route announcement.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BrhFJBRCQAIOVp3.jpg
https://www.google.ca/url?sa=i&rct=j...12083094698328

dancinb Nov 29, 2017 11:34 PM

I'd be curious to know how long it's been since YEG had a US destination on AC. Anyone know?

TheGreatestX Nov 30, 2017 1:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dancinb (Post 8002177)
I'd be curious to know how long it's been since YEG had a US destination on AC. Anyone know?

They served YEG-LAS and YEG-LAX until 2009.

thenoflyzone Nov 30, 2017 1:39 PM

Nav Can stats on aircraft movements so far this year. (until October)

YYZ - 390,262
YVR - 283,248
YUL - 197,852
YYC - 195,199

YDT (Boundary Bay) - 156,070
YOW - 126,538
YBW (Springbank) -123,991
YEG - 116,448
YXX (Abbotsford) - 116,421
YTZ - 112,026
YYJ - 107,365
YWG - 102,574
YQB - 101,827
YHU - 100,829

In terms of airports without a control tower, besides Red Deer, Mirabel is now the busiest FSS in the country. So far 48,000 movements this year til October.

Considering the complexity of the mix of traffic (CSeries, helicopters, CRJs, VFR's, F18s, cargo planes), there is a real possibility that a tower could open again in YMX in the near future.

DrNest Nov 30, 2017 4:39 PM

Interesting stats, I hadn't realised that Springbank was as busy as they are. I thought they were more on a par with CYKF.

Zmonkey Nov 30, 2017 4:55 PM

Just realized Ottawa doesn't have a direct flight to Las Vegas, I am somewhat surprised by that.

I have to go to Vegas for a conference, (not from Ottawa, but will be there for work), and just tried booking and nothing at all in January. Did they ever have it or just lose it?

1overcosc Nov 30, 2017 5:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zmonkey (Post 8003062)
Just realized Ottawa doesn't have a direct flight to Las Vegas, I am somewhat surprised by that.

I have to go to Vegas for a conference, (not from Ottawa, but will be there for work), and just tried booking and nothing at all in January. Did they ever have it or just lose it?

I think a Las Vegas did exist at some point.

YOW has no direct flights at all to anywhere in the western US. Largely because of Ottawa's role as a mostly government town, YOW has extensive domestic connections (especally Northern--it's actually the primary gateway to reach Nunavut) but weak transborder and international.

The most likely addition to transborder in the coming years, IMO, is not Ottawa-Las Vegas, but probably Ottawa-San Francisco. With the recent resurgence of Ottawa's tech industry it's a likely target, plus there's hard data that the number of people flying YOW-SFO through connecting points is more than sufficient for a direct route. The main issue from what I gather is such a route is very much not in the interests of any of the major airlines because of the changes it would create in connection patterns. That's why some have hypothesized that when Porter gets its C-Series jets, YOW-SFO could be one of the first routes they choose to launch with them.

thenoflyzone Nov 30, 2017 5:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 1overcosc (Post 8003093)
I think a Las Vegas did exist at some point.

YOW has no direct flights at all to anywhere in the western US. Largely because of Ottawa's role as a mostly government town, YOW has extensive domestic connections (especally Northern--it's actually the primary gateway to reach Nunavut) but weak transborder and international.

The most likely addition to transborder in the coming years, IMO, is not Ottawa-Las Vegas, but probably Ottawa-San Francisco. With the recent resurgence of Ottawa's tech industry it's a likely target, plus there's hard data that the number of people flying YOW-SFO through connecting points is more than sufficient for a direct route. The main issue from what I gather is such a route is very much not in the interests of any of the major airlines because of the changes it would create in connection patterns. That's why some have hypothesized that when Porter gets its C-Series jets, YOW-SFO could be one of the first routes they choose to launch with them.

AC used to operate twice weekly service on YOW-LAS with A319. Service started back in 2007. Westjet did the same around 2010, adding winter seasonal non stop service.

Both services didnt last long, if I remember correctly.

As for YOW-SFO, technically, LAS had a larger O&D in 2016, but not by much. 48,521 vs 46,287.

Zmonkey Nov 30, 2017 5:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zmonkey (Post 8003062)
Just realized Ottawa doesn't have a direct flight to Las Vegas, I am somewhat surprised by that.

I have to go to Vegas for a conference, (not from Ottawa, but will be there for work), and just tried booking and nothing at all in January. Did they ever have it or just lose it?

Wonder how many of the people doing the packages are just driving to Montreal, since it may be easier than connecting.

I am coming for a meetings in the tech space, so was fairly surprised they didn't have anything heading to vegas. A group of 30 of us in our industry are heading out from Ottawa, now just connecting back in Toronto.

Denscity Nov 30, 2017 6:30 PM

I always wondered why Toronto didn't have a flight to Omaha. :rolleyes:


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