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spoonman Jul 28, 2016 6:40 PM

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Originally Posted by The Flying Dutchman (Post 7515144)
Cisterra/7th & Market/Ritz wins final design approval:

http://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/...oved-downtown/

"Barring an appeal to the San Diego Planning Commission, all that is left before construction can begin is City Council approval of a comprehensive agreement spelling out the terms and scope of the housing, hotel and office development. That agreement already has been approved by the Civic San Diego board of directors, which oversees downtown development."

"While Cisterra already has consented to a labor agreement that would ensure the hiring of union workers for the construction of the project, it has been unable to persuade Ritz Carlton and Whole Foods to commit to doing the same."

"Unite Here organizer Rick Bates said he does not know yet whether the union would appeal the Civic San Diego action."

It sounds like everyone is ready to go, barring any union-led opposition.

http://cdn.sandiegouniontrib.com/img...15c2d8bc4ecd52

Crossing fingers that there is no further pushback on this project.

spoonman Jul 28, 2016 9:13 PM

Another picture of 7th and Market. Courtesy of Cisterra Development.


https://larahamm.files.wordpress.com...tz-carlton.jpg

tyleraf Jul 28, 2016 9:23 PM

A great addition to San Diego. I can't wait to see this rise! Hopefully this won't have too many obstacles.

spoonman Jul 28, 2016 10:06 PM

At this angle 7th and Market reminds me of Wells Fargo Center in DTLA


https://www.laconservancy.org/sites/...?itok=vD9OMcyv

OneRinconHill Jul 29, 2016 1:31 AM

It has such a weird massing...personally the hole in the middle just doesn't make sense.

SDCAL Jul 29, 2016 2:20 AM

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Originally Posted by tyleraf (Post 7515671)
A great addition to San Diego. I can't wait to see this rise! Hopefully this won't have too many obstacles.

I think it's pretty much up to the city council since it's city owned land and seems like they are mostly in favor of it. This parcel has been immersed in all sorts of drama for years with scandal with the former CCDC head, my guess is even the city wants this developed soon. But this IS San Diego, so I won't rest easy until it breaks ground :).

embora Jul 30, 2016 1:40 PM

In case you're following the Chargers stadium proposal in East Village: At 10 am TODAY in the Central Library there will be a presentation of an alternative. According to this article, it would include space for housing, offices, retail/restaurants, and a flexible meeting space that could be used for conventions, academic classrooms, and community events.


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East Village South: Non-Stadium Plan Revealed

Roger Showley - SDUT

As the Chargers’ $1.8 billion stadium-convention center heads toward the November ballot, an alternate vision will be presented Saturday for downtown’s East Village.

The so-called “East Village South Focus Plan” envisions apartment towers, high-tech start-ups, innovation-economy office compounds, new parks and plazas and maybe a convention annex or arena.

“It’s a long-term plan,” said downtown architect Rob Quigley, designer of the Central Library and outspoken critic of the stadium proposal because of its potentially negative impact on surrounding properties and East Village life. “Our attempt is to try to create a very thoughtful, solid plan that accommodates lots of uses. We believe it will be market driven. The idea is to get multiple developers versus one developer doing everything.”

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http://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/...-village-plan/

http://cdn.sandiegouniontrib.com/img...8561935b88c24b

Northparkwizard Jul 30, 2016 3:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by embora (Post 7517185)
In case you're following the Chargers stadium proposal in East Village: At 10 am TODAY in the Central Library there will be a presentation of an alternative. According to this article, it would include space for housing, offices, retail/restaurants, and a flexible meeting space that could be used for conventions, academic classrooms, and community events.

Rob Quigley must have TONS of time and money to waste thinking about how to develop other peoples property. Homeboy should have put his two cents in on all the shitty buildings that are already built in "East Village".

The irony of this line laughable, "The idea is to get multiple developers versus one developer doing everything.”


So now he's presenting this idea in a public space that he was paid to be lead architect on... umm that's not how you get new ideas Robert. All hail the great presenter of alternatives...

SDfan Jul 30, 2016 7:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Northparkwizard (Post 7517243)
Rob Quigley must have TONS of time and money to waste thinking about how to develop other peoples property. Homeboy should have put his two cents in on all the shitty buildings that are already built in "East Village".

The irony of this line laughable, "The idea is to get multiple developers versus one developer doing everything.”


So now he's presenting this idea in a public space that he was paid to be lead architect on... umm that's not how you get new ideas Robert. All hail the great presenter of alternatives...

It's a heck of a lot better than an empty stadium, unwanted convention center anex, and walling off Barrio Logan and other disadvantaged from downtown. It's also a bigger economic engine, promoting affordable housing and higher paying 21st century jobs over minimum wage concession stand workers, while not giving a fat tax break to a billionaire. :tup:

Go Chargers (to LA)! :cheers:

SDCAL Jul 30, 2016 7:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Northparkwizard (Post 7517243)
Rob Quigley must have TONS of time and money to waste thinking about how to develop other peoples property. Homeboy should have put his two cents in on all the shitty buildings that are already built in "East Village".

Umm the same could be said about Spanos - why should a billionaire football owner be dictating how the city solves our convention center issues. Does Spanos and the Chargers have some expertise in the convention center industry that we don't know about? Their joke of a plan gives no specifics on how the convention center would be operated or even details on the design specifics. It was thrown-on to this shitty plan as a gimmick to up his chances of building his tax-subsidized football stadium Downtown. I can't wait to see this go down in flames in November. It's pretty funny that you try and paint Quigley as some greedy sociopath, yet you presumably support Spanos, one of the greediest sociopaths around lol

Bertrice Jul 30, 2016 7:56 PM

Never going to happen. If the chargers stadium doesn't go there it will still be a bus yard for a decade or more. Why not put that 20+ million dollar pedestrian bridge to use.

OneRinconHill Jul 30, 2016 8:16 PM

Either way I hope something like that building "L" is constructed...it looks really cool!

sixonenine Jul 31, 2016 9:17 AM

Hey everyone, here is a video with about 30 new projects in TJ, some of which are already under construction.

https://youtu.be/056ymhuqnY8

ScottSD Aug 1, 2016 1:52 AM

The dig for the parking garage at Pinnacle on the Park has started!

The cranes in the background of the picture are for Ballpark Village (three) and Alexan East Village (one with American Flag).

https://c7.staticflickr.com/9/8780/2...48a55b49_z.jpg
Pinnacle on the Park by Scott, on Flickr

Also, another project on the left side of 5th Avenue, called Atmosphere.

Thanks for telling me the project name The Flying Dutchman.

https://c5.staticflickr.com/8/7523/2...18d874cc_z.jpg
Atmosphere by Scott, on Flickr

SDCAL Aug 1, 2016 3:11 AM

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I was reading a Times of SD article with Doug Manchester talking about downtown re-development, and this quote jumped out:

"Of course, there is always more work that needs to be done. We need to have the Civic Plaza and Civic Theatre redeveloped, Horton plaza reimagined, and new city council offices 750-feet tall."

http://timesofsandiego.com/opinion/2...town-bayfront/

City council offices 750 feet tall? Is this a reference to breaking the height limit? If so, why would it have been said in relation to city council offices? As far as I know there is no current proposals or plans to re-build the city administration offices. Also, the city admin offices are in central downtown, I would think a 750 footer would need to be in the far corner of East Village, if at all, due to further from the airport. Anyway, it's probably just Manchester talking out of his a**, but thought I'd post to see if anyone has heard anything about officials starting to explore >500 ft towers and/or plans for a new building for city offices?

The Flying Dutchman Aug 1, 2016 3:39 AM

Notice he is talking about a 40-year timeframe. Still, can't fault Manchester for having some vision (of which we could use more of here in SD)

Recall SD's Civic Center Plaza lease-to-own deal in 2015 for city employees (a 20 year deal): http://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/...-center-plaza/

The U-T article, interestingly, doesn't mention that Civic Center Plaza is owned by Cisterra: http://cisterra.com/projects/more-pr...-center-plaza/

I suspect Manchester is referring to a potential redevelopment of Civic Center Plaza and a VERY potential redevelopment of the SD Int. Airport and/or the FAA height limits.

Pie in the sky? Maybe. A lot can happen in 40.

The Flying Dutchman Aug 1, 2016 3:46 AM

That 2nd Pinnacle tower is of special note since I believe it is supposed to be a condominium tower, not rentals. Of course, they could pull a Vantage Pointe and do a complete 180. Should help to clean up that area quite a bit.

http://sandiegourban.properties/wp-c.../pinnacle2.jpg

The project on 5th that ScottSD was referring to is Atmosphere: http://www.wakelandhdc.com/communiti...cts/atmosphere

http://www.latitude33.com/wp-content...endering-2.jpg

Northparkwizard Aug 1, 2016 5:18 AM

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SDfan Aug 1, 2016 10:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sixonenine (Post 7517775)
Hey everyone, here is a video with about 30 new projects in TJ, some of which are already under construction.

https://youtu.be/056ymhuqnY8

Holy! Those projects are awesome! Damn San Diego and it's restrictive regulatory hurdles!


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