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sandiego_urban Apr 12, 2016 3:50 AM

This is my fiirst post in years and it's great to see that this thread is still active. :tup:

Just wondering if anyone has any info on the Monte Verde project that is currently going up at the corner of La Jolla Village and Genessee? Saw the rendering below in the Garden Communities website under "Coming Soon". Is this what is going up or is it the shorter tower in the other rendering? Either one will be a nice addition to UTC

http://www.gardencommunitiesca.com/A...de.aspx#photos

https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1604/...11c47a7d_o.jpg

https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1532/...f0de7145_c.jpg

http://www.tsminc.com/projects/monte-verde/

IconRPCV Apr 12, 2016 5:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Jun (Post 7404174)
Whoa, that looks really nice. Wish we get some quality towers like this in LA.

And we wish we got really tall ones like you do up in the City of Angeles.

SDfan Apr 13, 2016 12:55 AM

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Originally Posted by sandiego_urban (Post 7404285)
This is my fiirst post in years and it's great to see that this thread is still active. :tup:

Just wondering if anyone has any info on the Monte Verde project that is currently going up at the corner of La Jolla Village and Genessee? Saw the rendering below in the Garden Communities website under "Coming Soon". Is this what is going up or is it the shorter tower in the other rendering? Either one will be a nice addition to UTC.

Welcome back! And it's the shorter tower. As for a timeline on construction, no idea other, except it's a huge hole in the ground for now.

Northparkwizard Apr 13, 2016 1:03 AM

Development packages for:

1st & Beech

Citiplace

... and the grandaddy, 7th & Market

sandiego_urban Apr 13, 2016 3:23 AM

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Originally Posted by SDfan (Post 7405464)
Welcome back! And it's the shorter tower. As for a timeline on construction, no idea other, except it's a huge hole in the ground for now.

Hey, thanks. Shorter one for sure? As I recall, there are suppose to be 4 towers in the Monte Verde project. My hope is that they aren't the exact same height and design.

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Originally Posted by Northparkwizard
Development packages for:

1st & Beech

Citiplace

... and the grandaddy, 7th & Market

1st and Beech tower looks great, but I'm really liking 7th & Market

SDfan Apr 13, 2016 1:20 PM

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Originally Posted by sandiego_urban (Post 7405611)
Hey, thanks. Shorter one for sure? As I recall, there are suppose to be 4 towers in the Monte Verde project. My hope is that they aren't the exact same height and design.

As far as the city's development website had stated, the developer requested and was granted permission to lower the heights of their four towers from the 250's to 160's. My guess is that they could get the same number of units in more squat structures, which would cost less (and be much less elegant...). But whatever. UTC was never going to be our skyline savior anyways.

SDfan Apr 13, 2016 1:37 PM

1st & Beech is going to really fill up that section of downtown, and of course 7th & Market is going to do amazing things for the skyline on Market.

SDCAL Apr 14, 2016 5:21 AM

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Originally Posted by SDfan (Post 7405845)
1st & Beech is going to really fill up that section of downtown, and of course 7th & Market is going to do amazing things for the skyline on Market.

Having a Ritz will be a major milestone for downtown - first large 5 star hotel, we seem to be the only major city I can think of without one. On a side note, I had no idea we no longer have a W. Apparently that hotel changed hands. :shrug:

eburress Apr 14, 2016 2:39 PM

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Originally Posted by SDCAL (Post 7407152)
Having a Ritz will be a major milestone for downtown - first large 5 star hotel, we seem to be the only major city I can think of without one. On a side note, I had no idea we no longer have a W. Apparently that hotel changed hands. :shrug:

That W was in constant trouble...for 10+ years. I'm surprised it lasted as long as it did!

spoonman Apr 14, 2016 3:03 PM

I read an article a while back about the hotel owners wanting to re-brand the W as a Marriott Renaissance (or another Marriott brand) so the hotel would have greater appeal to business travelers. Given the location of the hotel ( near law firms and courthouses) this is somewhat understandable. The W would probably play better closer to the Gaslamp or Cc area.

I know there were plans for another W in UTC before the crash. Now that Marriott is running Starwood , I wouldn't hold my breath on any locations anywhere.

HurricaneHugo Apr 15, 2016 3:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Northparkwizard (Post 7405472)

1st and Beech looks great!

Wish citiplace was taller but I'll take it

7th & Market is interesting, definitely will add bulk to the area!

sandiego_urban Apr 16, 2016 2:08 AM

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Originally Posted by SDfan (Post 7405825)
As far as the city's development website had stated, the developer requested and was granted permission to lower the heights of their four towers from the 250's to 160's. My guess is that they could get the same number of units in more squat structures, which would cost less (and be much less elegant...). But whatever. UTC was never going to be our skyline savior anyways.

So it was the developers idea to lower the heights. Wish they would have stuck with a taller/slender design than short/squatty instead. Where's Nat Bosa when you need him :D

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Originally Posted by SDCAL
Having a Ritz will be a major milestone for downtown - first large 5 star hotel, we seem to be the only major city I can think of without one. On a side note, I had no idea we no longer have a W. Apparently that hotel changed hands.

I wonder if the Pendry will be considered a 5-Star property since it's part of the Montage Hotel group http://www.montagehotels.com/

Hmmm.....While there are many left, a few downtowns I can think of that don't currently have 5 star properties are Minneapolis, PHX, San Antonio, St. Louis and Tampa.

sandiego_urban Apr 16, 2016 2:27 AM

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Originally Posted by spoonman (Post 7407438)
I read an article a while back about the hotel owners wanting to re-brand the W as a Marriott Renaissance (or another Marriott brand) so the hotel would have greater appeal to business travelers. Given the location of the hotel ( near law firms and courthouses) this is somewhat understandable. The W would probably play better closer to the Gaslamp or Cc area.

I know there were plans for another W in UTC before the crash. Now that Marriott is running Starwood , I wouldn't hold my breath on any locations anywhere.

Totally agree with the location of the former W....Bad. IMO, The W brand had run it's course and was ready for a change. Is The Moxy is under construction now? Then there's the proposed Canopy Hotel. And then there's the rumor Virgin Hotel coming to town. Those will be good replacements for the old W

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/01/18/tr...cene.html?_r=0

Nerv Apr 16, 2016 8:13 PM

Outside the status of saying your city has one the difference between a 4 and 5 star hotel is usually pretty subtle. I did say usually there too. I've been in a number of the 5 stars I thought were probably only as good as or inferior to some 4 stars I've been in.

I'd be more concerned about a city not having enough (based on its market) 4 star hotels in it vs not having a 5 star hotel.

Still cool if the city can support one.

HurricaneHugo Apr 22, 2016 5:21 AM

First design of the stadium is out:

http://www.chargers.com/galleries/20...vention-center

JerellO Apr 22, 2016 8:30 AM

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Originally Posted by HurricaneHugo (Post 7416841)
First design of the stadium is out:

http://www.chargers.com/galleries/20...vention-center

It's only a conceptual design to give an idea what it and the area would look and feel like I think.

eburress Apr 22, 2016 2:29 PM

I like it! Fingers crossed!

SDfan Apr 22, 2016 9:08 PM

:lurk:

chris08876 Apr 22, 2016 10:11 PM

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Originally Posted by HurricaneHugo (Post 7416841)
First design of the stadium is out:

http://www.chargers.com/galleries/20...vention-center

Just some of the same renderings but without the anti copy bs that site put up. Also for the record. :)

Some extra info can be found in the two sources below the pics.

http://media.cmgdigital.com/shared/i...dit_manica.jpg

http://cdn.sandiegouniontrib.com/img...9b6936b1eddfe5
Credit: http://www.matiastanea.gr/us/relativ...20San%20Diego/

http://cdn.sandiegouniontrib.com/img...c49f2d1f3cc54f

http://cdn.sandiegouniontrib.com/img...c49f2d1f3cc54f

http://cdn.sandiegouniontrib.com/img...c49f2d1f3cc54f

http://cdn.sandiegouniontrib.com/img...c49f2d1f3cc54f
Credit for this set: http://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/...-concept-plan/

SDCAL Apr 23, 2016 12:16 AM

No secret I don't think that's a good location for a stadium, but setting those feelings aside and looking at just the design I have to say meh. Looks like a garden variety stadium to me, uninspired, un-imagined, under-whelming. And what's with the half-assed attempt to "save" the wonderbread building?? Do they want to build over it or just save the facade (if you look closely it looks like concrete columns go through it). I don't mean to rain on the parade of those who like it, but to me it seems like it was slapped together quickly without any thoughtfulness so they would have an image to go along with the signature gathering that just started


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