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Derek Jan 23, 2012 3:30 AM

I'd like to be optimistic as well, but we've seen time and time again that people in San Diego don't want to think big. They think progress and thinking big is some horrible concept. :(

mello Jan 23, 2012 3:42 AM

Well, lets hope that there are enough people with 1/3 the knowledge as us here on this site in the younger generation of SD. I think people are starting to wake up to the potential this city has and how it could easily be just as nice as Seattle, Vancouver, and Melbourne if people got off their ass realize this suburban kind of mindset of "well its so nice here, why change things" will not get us anywhere and leave us in these economic doldrums of extreme wealth disparity that we are in now.

HurricaneHugo Jan 24, 2012 4:22 AM

The State's AG sues San Diego over future transportation plans...

http://www.voiceofsandiego.org/envir...9bb2963f4.html

Quote:

The San Diego Association of Governments was the first regional agency to have to comply with a new state law requiring its transportation plan to reduce greenhouse gas emissions over the next 25 years. The governor's office and state Attorney General Kamala Harris said the plan didn't go far enough to get San Diego drivers off the road and into buses, trolleys or bike lanes.
On Monday, Harris sued, putting more heft behind a similar lawsuit that local and national environmental groups filed after Sandag approved its plan last year. The suits both show that neither the state nor environmentalists want to see Sandag's approach become precedent in California — and are willing to fight.

mello Jan 25, 2012 2:57 AM

Fat City Lofts Hearing Tomorrow at 2:30 CCDC
 
Hey guys I really think this is an important issue, I will be down there at CCDC 401 B Street tomorrow at 2:30 and I would love to see the SD forumers show up and represent what is right for the future of this city. Here is a great powerpoint presentation that shows why this development should absolutely be allowed to move forward:

http://co111w.col111.mail.live.com/d...1&n=1080602172

If this project is shut down it could have serious negative affects on future residential and mixed use development in the city of San Diego and other cities throughout the County. See you there -- :cheers:

mongoXZ Jan 28, 2012 3:39 AM

:cheers:
http://media.utsandiego.com/img/phot...9e5c123f6c0555
http://www.utsandiego.com/photos/gal...iew-san-diego/

kpexpress Jan 28, 2012 7:08 AM

sexy curves

mello Jan 28, 2012 6:16 PM

^^^ Too bad the East end of the C Street Core got cut off in that shot. I would have rather have that included than our lovely parking lot waterfront.

Went to the CCDC meeting on the Fat City Lofts on Wednesday, the level of ignorance in this city is appalling. Solar Turbines is the perfect example of a corporation using their financial might to influence politicians and whatever you call CCDC boardmembers... A very sad day for me and my hopes that this city and country can turn itself around.

HurricaneHugo Jan 29, 2012 7:13 AM

If the city doesn't get the stadium built and the Chargers bolt...I'll bolt too.

kpexpress Jan 29, 2012 10:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mello (Post 5567831)
^^^ Too bad the East end of the C Street Core got cut off in that shot. I would have rather have that included than our lovely parking lot waterfront.

Went to the CCDC meeting on the Fat City Lofts on Wednesday, the level of ignorance in this city is appalling. Solar Turbines is the perfect example of a corporation using their financial might to influence politicians and whatever you call CCDC boardmembers... A very sad day for me and my hopes that this city and country can turn itself around.

I completely agree. I voted in favor of allowing the development to move forward - our committee was split, but it's only advisory. I know the decision can be appealed to the planning commission, but the project does conflict with the city general plan. I would like to see it built.

kpexpress Jan 29, 2012 10:04 AM

Here's a sneak peak at the progress of my thesis. It's a concept at this point, still lots of work to do. Thoughts?

http://i301.photobucket.com/albums/n...2/concept6.jpg

mello Jan 29, 2012 6:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kpexpress (Post 5568605)
I completely agree. I voted in favor of allowing the development to move forward - our committee was split, but it's only advisory. I know the decision can be appealed to the planning commission, but the project does conflict with the city general plan. I would like to see it built.

You mean does not conflict with the general plan right? Were you at the meeting on Wednesday? They kept saying that this project is absolutely consistent with the 2006 plan of downtown.

About your thesis: How does the elevator work? And is this meant for downtown? The ground floor doesn't seem to mesh well with the surrounding urban fabric.

mongoXZ Jan 29, 2012 8:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kpexpress (Post 5568606)
Here's a sneak peak at the progress of my thesis. It's a concept at this point, still lots of work to do. Thoughts?

http://i301.photobucket.com/albums/n...2/concept6.jpg

Looks like something that would get built in Coruscant or Dubai. Call the Sultans! They'll fund it!

kpexpress Jan 30, 2012 6:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mello (Post 5568846)
You mean does not conflict with the general plan right? Were you at the meeting on Wednesday? They kept saying that this project is absolutely consistent with the 2006 plan of downtown.

About your thesis: How does the elevator work? And is this meant for downtown? The ground floor doesn't seem to mesh well with the surrounding urban fabric.

It is consistent with the downtown community plan, but conflicts with the 2002 san diego general plan in terms of protecting base sector employers in the city.

mello Jan 30, 2012 11:35 PM

This project does absolutely nothing to affect base sector employers and you know it K ex. Any person with any common sense who looks at the facts objectively will see that ST is not threatened at all by Fat City. This is nothing but a fear mongering propaganda campaign from Solar to see how far they can stretch their power.

Plus if Fat City is blocked it could have huge negative affects on future investment in residential projects and that will affect "Base Sector Jobs". There were multiple Real Estate Financing guys who spoke about this on Wednesday at CCDC.

HurricaneHugo Jan 31, 2012 3:31 AM

Are those shipping containers lol

HurricaneHugo Jan 31, 2012 3:34 AM

Also have you guys seen this?

Got it from the Vancouver thread in the main forum.

http://newurbannetwork.com/sites/def...-evolution.jpg

Didn't know about it!

eburress Jan 31, 2012 6:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HurricaneHugo (Post 5568544)
If the city doesn't get the stadium built and the Chargers bolt...I'll bolt too.

Right there with you!

kpexpress Jan 31, 2012 12:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mello (Post 5570395)
This project does absolutely nothing to affect base sector employers and you know it K ex. Any person with any common sense who looks at the facts objectively will see that ST is not threatened at all by Fat City. This is nothing but a fear mongering propaganda campaign from Solar to see how far they can stretch their power.

Plus if Fat City is blocked it could have huge negative affects on future investment in residential projects and that will affect "Base Sector Jobs". There were multiple Real Estate Financing guys who spoke about this on Wednesday at CCDC.

I completely agree and I wasn't saying that I believe that the project threatens base sector employment - in fact the waterfront lofts project (another Segal) sits within the 500' boundary Solar is bitching about. That got built in 2002 and no one brought up this issue at all. I voted in favor of allowing the development from moving forward and sat back in awe as the project got a split vote at CCAC and later died in CCDC. Let's hope the appeal to the Planning Commission will be less-partisan and more objectified. Solar presents zero scientific evidence backing their argument, just personal testimony.

HurricaneHugo Feb 1, 2012 2:26 AM

Nice.


http://www.utsandiego.com/news/2012/...projects-rema/

Redevelopment agency ends but $6.5B in projects remains

Quote:

San Diego's redevelopment agency went out of existence Tuesday, but not before it passed on $6.5 billion of obligations to the city and its taxpayers.

The action, mandated by the Legislature as a budget-saving measure last year, ends a 54-year run in which downtown was remade, neighborhoods from City Heights to San Ysidro were revitalized and landmark projects like Horton Plaza, Petco Park and Liberty Station came to pass.

"Redevelopment has been a powerful tool," said Councilman Todd Gloria, before he and the other seven City Council members, acting as the agency board, approved a long to-do list of unfinished projects.

For staff reports and related documents, see the Redevelopment Agency meeting docket here.

The list of "enforceable obligations" includes continuing bond and debt payments, consultant and monitoring costs and a raft of projects that in same cases are decades off into the future.

They include the $63 million redevelopment of the sports arena property in Point Loma, not expected until 2037; a $107 million bullet train station, projected for completion by 2044 on Pacific Highway; and $150 million to reconstruct of C Street downtown by 2033.

Also on the list is $150 million for clean up of the MTS bus yard in East Village, the Chargers' preferred site for a new downtown stadium.

eburress Feb 1, 2012 5:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HurricaneHugo (Post 5572119)
Nice.


http://www.utsandiego.com/news/2012/...projects-rema/

Redevelopment agency ends but $6.5B in projects remains

"They include the $63 million redevelopment of the sports arena property in Point Loma, not expected until 2037..."


So the soonest we can begin to hope for a basketball team in San Diego is 2037? Awesome. :sly:


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