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Crawford Oct 3, 2018 4:27 PM
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Originally Posted by DrNest (Post 8334244)
I'm trying to figure out how the "private elevator" works? They all seem to be in the same location in the building, all with direct access to each unit. What's to stop somebody riding the elevator accessing your apartment? Or at least looking into it as you get off? There does seem to be a major privacy concern to me.
Private elevators for full-floor residences have been the norm in Manhattan since the 1920's, so it isn't some new concept.

You typically enter from the elevator directly into the residence reception hall. Nowadays they use laser scanners for security, and guests are allowed in by doorman override. No neighbor will ever see your residence unless you allow them.

Streamliner Oct 3, 2018 4:39 PM
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Originally Posted by nyc_alex (Post 8334204)
I imagine the stairwell will have phones as well for calling the front desk. That said, how drunk would you have to be to get lost in your own home and go into a stairwell. Maybe a guest? It isn't a unique problem to this building, though.
Stairwell phones were my thought as well. I've lived in one building with a private elevator entrance (not mine), but it was only five stories so I never really thought about it before.

Zerton Oct 3, 2018 4:44 PM
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Originally Posted by nyc_alex (Post 8334022)
You can see some "hidden" floor plans as well on the website. Most are duplicates, but these are some unique ones:

The unit with a double height living area:
http://111w57.com/content/themes/111...Tower%2061.pdf
I believe the living space in this unit (Floor 61) is shown in this rendering:

https://static1.mansionglobal.com/pr...Room-FINAL.jpg

Zerton Oct 3, 2018 4:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Crawford (Post 8334285)
Private elevators for full-floor residences have been the norm in Manhattan since the 1920's, so it isn't some new concept.

You typically enter from the elevator directly into the residence reception hall. Nowadays they use laser scanners for security, and guests are allowed in by doorman override. No neighbor will ever see your residence unless you allow them.
It still would be kind of weird to have a an elevator open directly into your unit.
I'm sure it's somewhat normal but I still wouldn't feel completely secure.
I'd like to have it separated into a small foyer room that I could lock off and bypass.

DrNest Oct 3, 2018 5:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Zerton (Post 8334312)
It still would be kind of weird to have a an elevator open directly into your unit.
I'm sure it's somewhat normal but I still wouldn't feel completely secure.
I'd like to have it separated into a small foyer room that I could lock off and bypass.
That was my thinking too.

NYguy Oct 4, 2018 3:40 AM
^That's not as unusual as you might think.



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chris08876 Oct 4, 2018 10:39 PM
The view from 6th Ave near Bryant Park.

https://static1.squarespace.com/stat...g?format=1500w
Credit: FC

NYguy Oct 5, 2018 4:12 AM
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colemonkee Oct 5, 2018 4:39 AM
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Originally Posted by Zerton (Post 8334312)
It still would be kind of weird to have a an elevator open directly into your unit.
I'm sure it's somewhat normal but I still wouldn't feel completely secure.
I'd like to have it separated into a small foyer room that I could lock off and bypass.
The parents of a friend of mine from college have a penthouse in SF that has a direct elevator into the unit. It's actually pretty cool, and very secure. And there's is in a much older building, so imagine this is another level of secure. I'd wager you'd have biometrics involved at this point in the game, especially at this price point.

chris08876 Oct 8, 2018 12:32 AM
Pic by me. From today.



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c.estevez nyc - Union city (2) by Christopher Estevez, on Flickr

NYguy Oct 9, 2018 10:39 AM
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mousquet Oct 9, 2018 3:01 PM
I just quickly took a look at the Fr-speaking forum; they say this is the most slender, thinnest building ever built.
It's got its pack of fans over here for this reason. Concrete is allowing such structural feats.
It's a splendid tower, there's no question about the design itself.

However, they also claim the building would host only some 60 units. :sly:
That's insane. The worst is the tower might sit mostly empty most of the time, eventually.
Foreign billionaires purchasing that kind of real estate take it as speculative goods, and hardly ever set foot in there.
Same phenomenon as that of large urban mansions here in Paris, that's quite controversial.

chris08876 Oct 9, 2018 4:27 PM
Its definitely a reality purchasing units for investment properties and sitting empty. A lot of these uber-high cost units are like that. Buy X unit, wait Y years, sell it. Unless some disaster happens, or the Independence Day aliens glass the city, prices will continue to rise.

1Boston Oct 10, 2018 3:24 AM
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Originally Posted by mousquet (Post 8340009)
I just quickly took a look at the Fr-speaking forum; they say this is the most slender, thinnest building ever built.
It's got its pack of fans over here for this reason. Concrete is allowing such structural feats.
It's a splendid tower, there's no question about the design itself.

However, they also claim the building would host only some 60 units. :sly:
That's insane. The worst is the tower might sit mostly empty most of the time, eventually.
Foreign billionaires purchasing that kind of real estate take it as speculative goods, and hardly ever set foot in there.
Same phenomenon as that of large urban mansions here in Paris, that's quite controversial.
I mean, I am totally ok with this acting simply as a sculpture and without any utility to the city. It is just that gorgeous. I don't think that's necessarily a good thing but god this thing cannot be beat. Now, as a trend that is more worrisome but I'll make an exception for this one.

NYguy Oct 10, 2018 3:38 AM
^ I wouldn't worry about that. It's not something that's as much as people would make it out to be. This building isn't even built yet, and people are worrying that there will be no one in it.

Skyguy_7 Oct 10, 2018 2:58 PM
^My guess is once the investors see the unbelievable views from their investment units, they will not want to leave. :cheers:

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Originally Posted by NYguy (Post 8339842)
It's awesome to see the texture of the stepped North facade coming into play. Much better than just a flush glass facade. Leave it to SHoP to give it 110%.

antinimby Oct 10, 2018 3:50 PM
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Originally Posted by chris08876 (Post 8340153)
Its definitely a reality purchasing units for investment properties and sitting empty. A lot of these uber-high cost units are like that. Buy X unit, wait Y years, sell it. Unless some disaster happens, or the Independence Day aliens glass the city, prices will continue to rise.
I'll house sit for any billionaire if they need one. I won't ask for a salary either. :)

NYguy Oct 10, 2018 8:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Skyguy_7 (Post 8341302)
It's awesome to see the texture of the stepped North facade coming into play. Much better than just a flush glass facade. Leave it to SHoP to give it 110%.
Yeah, it won't be a flat, glass surface.

At about 17:40 he gets into the details...


• Video Link

NYguy Oct 11, 2018 2:31 AM
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chris08876 Oct 12, 2018 12:04 AM
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NYguy Oct 12, 2018 1:39 AM
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NYguy Oct 13, 2018 3:57 AM
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Steinway and 220 CPS brings us back to these days...


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tdawg Oct 13, 2018 1:29 PM
^ holy sh!+!!!

philip Oct 15, 2018 11:02 AM
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Originally Posted by Streamliner (Post 8333607)
I'm drooling looking at these floor plans and renderings. But it makes me think of something. If you're on one of the top floors, and drunkenly enter the stairwell from your unit, would you have to walk 1,000 feet down to the lobby just to hop back on the elevator?
There are Open Windbreak Floors (71 and 31). They might be able to go to these floors and ride the elevator up.

NYguy Oct 15, 2018 5:46 PM
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chris08876 Oct 16, 2018 1:00 AM
111 W 57th in the distance as seen from the Bronx. Along with all the other super talls rising. Skyline changing in a big way.

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NYguy Oct 16, 2018 1:57 PM
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Zerton Oct 16, 2018 4:45 PM
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Originally Posted by NYguy (Post 8344855)
Steinway and 220 CPS brings us back to these days...
1 Wall St is an incredibly beautiful building. Underrated.

NYguy Oct 17, 2018 2:06 AM
^ It'll get a chance to shine again.
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/07/20/r...es-condos.html



OCTOBER 16, 2018


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PittsburghPA Oct 17, 2018 4:39 AM
Incredible pictures!

A few observations. I remember when One57 was going up and it stood out for its height.
Now it is almost an afterthought (height-wise). Central Park Tower may be taller but it is so clear that 111 W 57th is architecturally/design superior. Lastly, it'll be wild to see how far out the tower crane is outriggered once this reaches topping out phases.

Skyguy_7 Oct 17, 2018 12:22 PM
^^ Great photo set. I still can't believe horseface Gail and her cronies all came to the consensus that "shadows in the park" would be their best strategy to "resist" the construction of these towers. :haha:

NYguy Oct 17, 2018 1:46 PM
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Originally Posted by PittsburghPA (Post 8348068)
Incredible pictures!

A few observations. I remember when One57 was going up and it stood out for its height.
Now it is almost an afterthought (height-wise). Central Park Tower may be taller but it is so clear that 111 W 57th is architecturally/design superior. Lastly, it'll be wild to see how far out the tower crane is outriggered once this reaches topping out phases.
Yes, I remember the crane dangling after hurricane Sandy. It was so high, and gave more gripes to the NIMBY crowd.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Skyguy_7 (Post 8348141)
^^ Great photo set. I still can't believe horseface Gail and her cronies all came to the consensus that "shadows in the park" would be their best strategy to "resist" the construction of these towers. :haha:
It worked for them in the 80's, but when developers build within existing zoning, all they can do is scream.

NYguy Oct 17, 2018 4:39 PM
Extra shot from yesterday...

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TK2001 Oct 17, 2018 10:10 PM
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My own renders, since it wasn't in the new Central Park Tower video

NYguy Oct 18, 2018 3:05 AM
Nice.

NYguy Oct 20, 2018 12:17 AM
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eXodius Oct 20, 2018 7:05 AM
Once this building is topped off and every panel is placed, we'll finally see this beauty lit up with its terra-cotta for the first time ever! There'll be like a collective gasp across the planet once this one glows all sorts of different shades! This, CPT, and the rest of Billionaire's Row, will look REALLY cool at night with Hudson Yards, 53W53, and One Vanderbilt not far from view! The next decade looks PRETTY cool for NY! :cheers:

NYguy Oct 21, 2018 12:59 AM
^ The crown itself should be spectacular.


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TonyL Oct 21, 2018 7:28 PM
Based off the blueprint. We are at floor 79. 1,055 feet. Only 5 residential floors remain to be constructed along with 4 mechanical floors and a windbreak above that. The rest is all cap. This will reach floor 89 by the end of the year with core completion.

ILNY Oct 22, 2018 3:15 AM
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The North One Oct 22, 2018 2:51 PM
the facade is looking amazing.

mrnyc Oct 22, 2018 4:24 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by TonyL (Post 8352818)
Based off the blueprint. We are at floor 79. 1,055 feet. Only 5 residential floors remain to be constructed along with 4 mechanical floors and a windbreak above that. The rest is all cap. This will reach floor 89 by the end of the year with core completion.
interesting -- if so its above the topped out moma tower (1,050). :cheers:

NYguy Oct 23, 2018 12:07 AM
The view from 1,005 ft...notice the huge shadows across the park.


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599GTO Oct 23, 2018 2:34 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by mousquet (Post 8340009)
I just quickly took a look at the Fr-speaking forum; they say this is the most slender, thinnest building ever built.
It's got its pack of fans over here for this reason. Concrete is allowing such structural feats.
It's a splendid tower, there's no question about the design itself.

However, they also claim the building would host only some 60 units. :sly:
That's insane. The worst is the tower might sit mostly empty most of the time, eventually.
Foreign billionaires purchasing that kind of real estate take it as speculative goods, and hardly ever set foot in there.
Same phenomenon as that of large urban mansions here in Paris, that's quite controversial.


I don’t think this will be the case. If you’re in the park in the evening you notice that there are are lots of lights on at 432 Park Avenue and One57. People do actually live in these buildings and there are quite a few apartments so a constant rotation of foreign buyers coming in and out of town. It is New York after all, the most important city to the world’s super rich which has the world’s highest volume of private flights coming in and out of town. They’re always here.

NYguy Oct 23, 2018 2:55 PM
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J_M_Tungsten Oct 23, 2018 11:24 PM
^i thought that first shot was from Inception.

NYguy Oct 25, 2018 1:37 AM
^ It is a little sci-fi ish.



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NYguy Oct 26, 2018 12:16 AM
Michael Lee

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Guiltyspark Oct 26, 2018 6:29 AM
I have never dreamed about a skyscraper before but last night I dreamed that they decided not to install 111's tuned mass damper in order to save money. Then the city got hit by a hurricane and the tower collapsed leading to a complete ban on new skyscraper construction in New York of towers over 20 floors. I woke up panicked. :koko:

Skyguy_7 Oct 26, 2018 12:16 PM
^ That is not a dream.

That is a nightmare. :runaway:


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