The Planning and Recreation and Park Commission concluded that the proposed TransBay Tower will not greatly affect the surrounding Parks and plazas with a shadow the building will create.
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The SF Chronicle has reported that the Planning Commision met Thursday and gave final approval for the 1,070 ft Transbay Tower. Hines is still The developer for the project and it was mentioned in the article that they failed to pay the $5 million Line of credit by the Sept. 30th deadline.
What is a little positive is the last quote. " No one is circling a date on the calendar, but the talks can't go on in perpetuity." Which tells me they want to see this thing get built in a timely manner. http://www.sfgate.com/bayarea/articl...Ks-3962665.php |
Great news! Finally got around to it. For what it's worth, Socketsite says the following in regards to Hines and the tower:
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Just wondering, has anyone stopped to think that the reason for the hesitancy might be that there is insufficient reason to believe there is a demand for a high-rise of that size? These buildings are built to make money, you know.
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^Not likely, based on current rents/vacancy rates and the prestige/rent premium gained from having the tallest in such an iconic city.
Now, you might have a point if it was considered possible for other structures of similar height to be built in SF any time soon. However, that almost guaranteed monopoly is one of the things that makes this project pencil out. |
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Hines is on record stating that they have received strong interest in the proposed Tower. What this Tower needs is an anchor corporation that will take a substantial amount of space. Possible naming rights?
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As the Chronicle article correctly notes, big institutional investors are much more attracted to entitled parcels in San Francisco--parcels that have completed the whole byzantine zoning/permitting/political process. With yesterday's approval, big money will be much more likely to step forward. All the Chicken Littles fretting over the sky falling on this project need to get a better grip on how things actually work.
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not too much of a surprise anymore, but still nice to have the next step taken: Hines has signed
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A few new tidbits on the Transbay Tower, from this article in the SF Business Journal:
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The Wilshire Grand development released their details today and sadly, it will be 30 ft taller than the TransBay Tower. Too bad the SF tower can't extend the Tower by 31 ft to claim the tallest building on the West Coast.
On a side note, the TransBay development is not Turing out as hopes of multiple Supertalls in the Area. Looks like now it is down to Two buildings. |
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I still think it's amazing that we're getting even one supertall! I'll take it. We shouldn't get hung up on all these petty details anyway, the fact that a spindly needle will make the new LA building slightly taller, or that 50 First will be 70 feet short of a supertall. Both cities will look awesome after getting their new buildings...though we'll still have all that water as a nice backdrop...
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^ I agree. If this thing gets built, that's good enough for me. Let's focus on the positive - no project is perfect.
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Did not realize that this building is going to be taller than the Chrysler Building :tup:
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Wilshire grand will only be "taller" because of that stupid skinny little spire. What a bunch of cheaters ;). If you could compare them side-by-side, Transbay would look like the taller tower because it will have more bulk above the 900' (and 1,000') mark.
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Anyways, the northern border of the Transbay development area stops at Mission street, which means it never included those Renzo Piano towers. |
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In case you missed it, that part of the post was tongue-in-cheek. I even added a wink smiley so no one would take it seriously...so much for that. |
Image I found of the new proposed Transbay skyline
http://ww3.hdnux.com/photos/15/61/53.../3/628x471.jpg This was back in 2007. Not sure how accurate it is today. Those towers behind Mission and 1st could be the 1200' Piano proposals (dead) or the SOM 900' proposals (still alive). The Transbay Tower is not even included in that model. |
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http://www.marketwatch.com/story/bos...cel-2013-03-26
Boston Properties and Hines Close on Record Land Sale for Transbay Transit Tower Parcel Ceremonial Groundbreaking of the West Coast's Tallest Tower Scheduled March 26, 2013 Quote:
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There was a time I would have been really excited about that news. Unfortunately, I've been so disillusioned by the degradation of the terminal and tower that it's just another project to me now. Frankly, it feels like this entire proposal has been one giant bait and switch, but I doubt Hines planned this from the start. From the reduced price (down to basically what Rockefeller/SOM pitched), to the reduced height, to the dopey slits, to the terminal itself maybe losing its glass curtain wall, it seems like everything I found interesting that was originally promised has been stripped away. I'm far more excited about 50 First, 190 Fremont and just about everything going up on Rincon Hill than this.
Oh well. I won't belabor the point because I don't want to be the guy who constantly complains about a given project. I've said my piece and I'll try not to comment about it anymore. Hopefully I'll be proven wrong in the long run, and there are plenty of other projects to keep me occupied in the meantime. |
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yeah, this one will be a fabulous addition to views from almost anywhere in the city, lounging at dolores park? beautiful view. sitting around at jessie square? beautiful view. coming over the bay bridge? beautiful view. from marin, this thing will look great. and beyond the height it'll do a huge amount of work getting us past our table top, bland skyline.
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^That's a really good point. No matter what, a new pinnacle of this height will make the skyline more intriguing.
viewguy - that's another thing to look forward to: your photos of it rising! |
Realize that this building will be completed a year before the Wilshire Grand Tower in Los Angeles. This will make the Transbay Tower the tallest building in the West Coast for a year if everything goes according to plan.
Edit: Some news from several months ago gives us hope that this building might have an observation deck. Apparently now that the building is under construction they are going to look into it. http://inhabitat.com/san-franciscos-...he-west-coast/ http://sfist.com/2012/10/19/planning...ly_oks_wes.php |
"Now that we are closing on the land and moving full speed ahead with the design, I'm confident that discussions will progress into leasing quickly."
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My fellow architecture enthusiasts,
I for one am excited about the Transbay Tower. It's easy to get discouraged during the design process of a building compared to seeing the finished product. Transamerica has always been one of my favs, but to have seen it cut down from its original 1150 feet, and the "ears" added to it would have been frustrating. But in the end, in a city full of NIMBYS, after an era (the 1990s) in which there was almost nothing built of any size, it feels like a miracle to me to see a building twice the height of the original 550 feet proposed for it! And the slots at the top, while a very different look than what we're used to, I think will make it more interesting, especially when they are lit at night. |
Tally me up as another person happy to see this thing rise. I really believe it's going to be a stunner once it's built. Keep in mind, this is going to be taller (spire included) than the Chrysler Building in NY, which is a pretty big deal for a town notorious for its NIMBYs. I never thought I would see the day.
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I knew it! This WILL be the tallest tower in the west coast, and the design has yet to be finalized. I'm guessing this will reach the original proposed 1200' ;)
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I am still waiting for news on the observation deck ideas for this tower. One thing is for certain the design for the upper portions of the tower is still uncertain. We might even get a spire on this tower.
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That could be amazing. I hope this news of a "superstructure" (whatever that may be....spire? antennae? a crown on top of a crown? Alien docking platform?) is true. |
I would love to see TBT taller than currently proposed. I wish any height increase could be via occupied floors, but I'm not complaining if we just get a super-spire.
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