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theskythelimit Oct 12, 2012 7:04 AM

The Planning and Recreation and Park Commission concluded that the proposed TransBay Tower will not greatly affect the surrounding Parks and plazas with a shadow the building will create.

http://www.sfgate.com/bayarea/articl...ys-3941437.php

tech12 Oct 12, 2012 4:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by theskythelimit (Post 5864103)
The Planning and Recreation and Park Commission concluded that the proposed TransBay Tower will not greatly affect the surrounding Parks and plazas with a shadow the building will create.

http://www.sfgate.com/bayarea/articl...ys-3941437.php

I'm glad to hear that. The shadow law sucks, particularly when it's enforced in the middle of downtown.

theskythelimit Oct 19, 2012 8:37 AM

The SF Chronicle has reported that the Planning Commision met Thursday and gave final approval for the 1,070 ft Transbay Tower. Hines is still The developer for the project and it was mentioned in the article that they failed to pay the $5 million Line of credit by the Sept. 30th deadline.

What is a little positive is the last quote. " No one is circling a date on the calendar, but the talks can't go on in perpetuity."
Which tells me they want to see this thing get built in a timely manner.

http://www.sfgate.com/bayarea/articl...Ks-3962665.php

tech12 Oct 19, 2012 4:56 PM

Great news! Finally got around to it. For what it's worth, Socketsite says the following in regards to Hines and the tower:

Quote:

The chance that Hines will fail to complete the purchase and that the Pelli Clarke Pelli design would be shelved? We'd put that at well under one percent.
http://www.socketsite.com/archives/2...ise_by_pl.html

Sounds like the fact that Hines hasn't paid up yet really isn't a big deal.

jg6544 Oct 19, 2012 5:08 PM

Just wondering, has anyone stopped to think that the reason for the hesitancy might be that there is insufficient reason to believe there is a demand for a high-rise of that size? These buildings are built to make money, you know.

tech12 Oct 19, 2012 5:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jg6544 (Post 5872316)
Just wondering, has anyone stopped to think that the reason for the hesitancy might be that there is insufficient reason to believe there is a demand for a high-rise of that size? These buildings are built to make money, you know.

I'm sure plenty of people have though of that. SF currently has a low office vacancy rate (particularly SOMA, where the tower will be built), and over 1 million square feet have already been leased so far this year. So yes, it seems that there is demand for more office space in SF.

Gordo Oct 19, 2012 5:16 PM

^Not likely, based on current rents/vacancy rates and the prestige/rent premium gained from having the tallest in such an iconic city.

Now, you might have a point if it was considered possible for other structures of similar height to be built in SF any time soon. However, that almost guaranteed monopoly is one of the things that makes this project pencil out.

rocketman_95046 Oct 19, 2012 6:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gordo (Post 5872328)
^Not likely, based on current rents/vacancy rates and the prestige/rent premium gained from having the tallest in such an iconic city.

Now, you might have a point if it was considered possible for other structures of similar height to be built in SF any time soon. However, that almost guaranteed monopoly is one of the things that makes this project pencil out.

Exactly, I would be much more worried if I owned one of its shorter neighbors. This will fill up easily, if not from external growth than from stealing clients from neighbors.

Great news all around!:cheers:

theskythelimit Oct 19, 2012 8:56 PM

Hines is on record stating that they have received strong interest in the proposed Tower. What this Tower needs is an anchor corporation that will take a substantial amount of space. Possible naming rights?

jg6544 Oct 19, 2012 10:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tech12 (Post 5872327)
I'm sure plenty of people have though of that. SF currently has a low office vacancy rate (particularly SOMA, where the tower will be built), and over 1 million square feet have already been leased so far this year. So yes, it seems that there is demand for more office space in SF.

If it's economically viable in this form, it will be built; if not, it won't be.

tech12 Oct 19, 2012 10:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jg6544 (Post 5872648)
If it's economically viable in this form, it will be built; if not, it won't be.

Thank you, captain obvious. And it seems that YES it is economically viable, at this time.

fflint Oct 19, 2012 10:47 PM

As the Chronicle article correctly notes, big institutional investors are much more attracted to entitled parcels in San Francisco--parcels that have completed the whole byzantine zoning/permitting/political process. With yesterday's approval, big money will be much more likely to step forward. All the Chicken Littles fretting over the sky falling on this project need to get a better grip on how things actually work.

1977 Oct 24, 2012 2:56 AM

Quote:

Boston Properties partners with Hines on Transbay Tower

Boston Properties is joining Hines as the partner in the development of the Transbay Tower, a 1.4 million-square-foot, 61-story tower to be built next to the Transbay Transit Center.

In a statement Hines said it had finalized the formation of a joint venture with Boston Properties to acquire the project land from the Transbay Joint Powers Authority. The approximately $190 million acquisition is expected to close in the first quarter of 2013. Hines and Boston Properties each have a 50 percent interest in the venture.
In addition, on Oct. 18, the San Francisco Planning Commission granted final planning approval for the tower to proceed. Designed by Pelli Clarke Pelli Architects, the building is slated to be the tallest on the West Coast, with its crown soaring to a height of 1,070 feet.
Source and article: http://www.bizjournals.com/sanfranci....html?page=all

theskythelimit Oct 24, 2012 4:05 AM

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Originally Posted by 1977 (Post 5877356)

This is good news. Boston Properties is a well known company and as the article stated, is vested in SF with in excess of four million square feet of property.

NYguy Oct 24, 2012 1:12 PM

http://www.businessweek.com/news/201...rancisco-tower

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“We are very gratified to have both a stellar partner and the city’s nod of approval,” Gerald D. Hines, chairman of Houston-based Hines, said in the statement. “We think the tower will be a beautiful addition to San Francisco’s beloved skyline as well as an extremely desirable and sustainable workplace next to one of the state’s busiest transit hubs.”

1977 Oct 29, 2012 12:53 AM

More info:

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Boston Properties to Invest $1.4B in Two San Francisco Buildings

Boston Properties Inc. considered buying San Francisco’s 101 California St. from the Hines company but instead decided to develop the Transbay Tower with them: The yield will be better and the company will own a new building to boot.

The company expects to invest more than $1 billion along with Hines in the development of the 61-story edifice, spending in the neighborhood of $700 a foot to build 1.4 million square feet, company executives said.

The tower, reaching nearly 1,100 feet, will be the tallest in the city by approximately 200 feet and connected to a new $4 billion transportation terminal that has been labeled the Grand Central Station of the West.

The partners expect to complete the purchase of the land from the Transbay Joint Powers Authority in the first quarter of next year, paying $139 a rentable square foot, or approximately $190 million. The earliest the companies expect to initiate construction is in early 2014 with delivery expected in the later part of 2016 or early 2017
Source and article: http://news.theregistrysf.com/boston...sco-buildings/


And a follow up article by the SF Business Times:

http://www.bizjournals.com/sanfranci...weighs-in.html

theskythelimit Oct 30, 2012 6:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 1977 (Post 5883289)
More info:


Source and article: http://news.theregistrysf.com/boston...sco-buildings/


And a follow up article by the SF Business Times:

http://www.bizjournals.com/sanfranci...weighs-in.html

This is around the same time frame they expect the TransBay Terminalnto open. Good timing.

timbad Nov 29, 2012 9:21 AM

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not too much of a surprise anymore, but still nice to have the next step taken: Hines has signed

peanut gallery Feb 5, 2013 11:58 PM

A few new tidbits on the Transbay Tower, from this article in the SF Business Journal:

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New tech-friendly Transbay Tower may come too late for Google
J.K. Dineen
San Francisco Business Times

Feb 1, 2013, 11:31am PST

In a Jan. 30 earnings call Boston Properties Executive Vice President Raymond Ritchey said the base of the Transbay Tower “will to be not only conducive to traditional office users but specifically attractive to the tech tenants that are dominating demand for space.” He said the tower would feature wide open, column-free floors and 14-foot slab-to-slab ceiling heights.

“We’re positioning this building not only to be the No. 1 building for professional users but the tech tenants as well,” said Ritchey. “We see also the possibility of putting that building within a building. So if a major user, a tech user comes, we could lease them the base with a separate arrival experience, separate elevator cores and then put traditional office space on top. So we’re looking at both sides of the market."

The joint venture partnership has already received a request for proposal from a technology tenant seeking 300,000 square feet, said Robert Pester, senior vice president and regional manager of San Francisco office. Pester did not specifically mention the tenant’s name, but Google is the only tenant of that size currently in the market. There has also been persistent chatter in the real estate community that Google has been looking at the Transbay project as well as two Tishman Speyer developments: 505 Howard St. which is under construction, but at 278,000 square feet may be too small for Google; and 222 Mission St., which is entitled for a 450,000 square foot tower.

In the earnings call Pester said Transbay is “in the very preliminary design” and the partnership is just “starting to think about construction drawings.”
The article goes on to mention that Google's timeframe is likely too soon for Transbay since their lease at Hills Borthers Plaza ends in 2015. But that's good news for Foundry Square III and 222 Mission.

theskythelimit Feb 8, 2013 12:58 AM

The Wilshire Grand development released their details today and sadly, it will be 30 ft taller than the TransBay Tower. Too bad the SF tower can't extend the Tower by 31 ft to claim the tallest building on the West Coast.

On a side note, the TransBay development is not Turing out as hopes of multiple Supertalls in the Area. Looks like now it is down to Two buildings.

tech12 Feb 8, 2013 3:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by theskythelimit (Post 6006141)
On a side note, the TransBay development is not Turing out as hopes of multiple Supertalls in the Area. Looks like now it is down to Two buildings.

The Transbay development has never included multiple supertalls...the Transbay tower was always the only supertall proposed (unless the old 1200' Renzo Piano tower proposals on 1st street are included in the Transbay area, though I was under the impression that was separate). And the Transbay development area also includes more than two new buildings; there's the Transbay tower, the transit center itself, 181 Fremont, and a handful of other highrises proposed as part of the Transbay development area.

theskythelimit Feb 8, 2013 6:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tech12 (Post 6006374)
The Transbay development has never included multiple supertalls...the Transbay tower was always the only supertall proposed (unless the old 1200' Renzo Piano tower proposals on 1st street are included in the Transbay area, though I was under the impression that was separate). And the Transbay development area also includes more than two new buildings; there's the Transbay tower, the transit center itself, 181 Fremont, and a handful of other highrises proposed as part of the Transbay development area.

The Transbay district did include a series of super tall buildings. Most of them, including Renzo Piano, were cancelled.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/San_Fra...ay_development

tall/awkward Feb 8, 2013 9:56 PM

I still think it's amazing that we're getting even one supertall! I'll take it. We shouldn't get hung up on all these petty details anyway, the fact that a spindly needle will make the new LA building slightly taller, or that 50 First will be 70 feet short of a supertall. Both cities will look awesome after getting their new buildings...though we'll still have all that water as a nice backdrop...

northbay Feb 8, 2013 11:50 PM

^ I agree. If this thing gets built, that's good enough for me. Let's focus on the positive - no project is perfect.

mt_climber13 Feb 20, 2013 6:49 PM

Did not realize that this building is going to be taller than the Chrysler Building :tup:

tech12 Feb 21, 2013 12:13 AM

Wilshire grand will only be "taller" because of that stupid skinny little spire. What a bunch of cheaters ;). If you could compare them side-by-side, Transbay would look like the taller tower because it will have more bulk above the 900' (and 1,000') mark.

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Originally Posted by theskythelimit (Post 6006528)
The Transbay district did include a series of super tall buildings. Most of them, including Renzo Piano, were cancelled.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/San_Fra...ay_development

That article has always been full of errors, and looks like it still is (i even edited it around a year ago to be more accurate, but someone quickly reversed my edits, and the article was made inaccurate again...lol wikipedia is completely retarded sometimes).

Anyways, the northern border of the Transbay development area stops at Mission street, which means it never included those Renzo Piano towers.

theskythelimit Feb 21, 2013 1:12 AM

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Originally Posted by tech12 (Post 6022583)
That article has always been full of errors, and looks like it still is (i even edited it around a year ago to be more accurate, but someone quickly reversed my edits, and the article was made inaccurate again...lol wikipedia is completely retarded sometimes).

Anyways, the northern border of the Transbay development area stops at Mission street, which means it never included those Renzo Piano towers.

Yes, I agree that wiki is not the best source to quote. The TransBay Tower will be quite a site when it is completed.

Quixote Feb 21, 2013 1:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tech12 (Post 6022583)
Wilshire grand will only be "taller" because of that stupid skinny little spire. What a bunch of cheaters ;). If you could compare them side-by-side, Transbay would look like the taller tower because it will have more bulk above the 900' (and 1,000') mark.

A spire isn't "cheating" any more than a crown is. Both are nothing more than decorative elements used for visual effect. A crown being "bulkier" doesn't change that.

tech12 Feb 21, 2013 1:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Westsidelife (Post 6022658)
A spire isn't "cheating" any more than a crown is. Both are nothing more than decorative elements used for visual effect. A crown being "bulkier" doesn't change that.

No you are cheaters. Cheating cheaters who are conSPIREing against us.

In case you missed it, that part of the post was tongue-in-cheek. I even added a wink smiley so no one would take it seriously...so much for that.

mt_climber13 Feb 21, 2013 2:04 AM

Image I found of the new proposed Transbay skyline

http://ww3.hdnux.com/photos/15/61/53.../3/628x471.jpg

This was back in 2007. Not sure how accurate it is today. Those towers behind Mission and 1st could be the 1200' Piano proposals (dead) or the SOM 900' proposals (still alive). The Transbay Tower is not even included in that model.

Roadcruiser1 Mar 25, 2013 11:06 PM

Some news as of late.

Boston Properties takes control of Transbay Tower, S.F.'s tallest building
J.K. Dineen
Mar 19, 2013


Quote:

Boston Properties has replaced Hines as the lead developer of the Transbay Tower, which will be San Francisco’s tallest building.

Hines, which for six years has been the public face of the proposed 61-story tower, has sold 90 percent of its remaining interest in the 1.4 million square foot Transbay Tower development to Boston Properties. In a Securities and Exchange Commission filing, Boston Properties stated that Hines has elected to reduce its ownership interest in the joint venture from 50 percent to 5 percent, leaving Boston Properties as the 95 percent owner of the site.

The agreement comes as the Transbay Joint Powers Authority is preparing to sell the property for $190 million to the developers. The money will be used to help pay for the $4 billion Transbay terminal project in the south financial district. The land transfer is scheduled to close March 26st, with a March 27th public ceremony celebrating the transaction.

In October Boston Properties announced that it had bought a 50 percent stake in the tower, essentially replacing MetLife as equity partner. Boston Properties is currently working on two other San Francisco developments: a renovation of 680 Folsom St., which has been preleased to Riverbed Technology and Macys.com; and 535 Mission St., a speculative tower that Swinerton Builders is started construction on this month.

TJPA spokesman Adam Alberti said the agency has no powers of approval on the change in the joint venture agreement. "It's been communicated to us that Boston Properties is taking a 95 percent controlling interest," said Alberti.

Bob Pester, a senior vice president and regional manager of Boston Properties, is now the lead contact on the development team, said Alberti.
http://www.bizjournals.com/sanfranci...er-boston.html

Also here are some videos to show what the new skyline would look like for the reply below.

Video Link


Video Link

NYguy Mar 26, 2013 10:02 PM

http://www.marketwatch.com/story/bos...cel-2013-03-26

Boston Properties and Hines Close on Record Land Sale for Transbay Transit Tower Parcel
Ceremonial Groundbreaking of the West Coast's Tallest Tower Scheduled



March 26, 2013


Quote:

Hines and Boston Properties announced today that it will ceremonially break ground to celebrate the acquisition of 101 First Street, a land parcel sold by Transbay Joint Powers Authority for approximately $192 million.

At 1,070 feet, the tower is set to be the tallest on the United States' West Coast and the seventh tallest in the U.S., edging out New York's Chrysler Building. The project was initiated in 2007 and received planning approval in October of 2012. Construction of the 1.4 million-square-foot tower could begin as early as summer 2013 with project completion in 2016, just before the opening of the new transit facility.

A ceremonial groundbreaking celebration is scheduled to occur on March 27, 2013 with such dignitaries in attendance as: San Francisco Mayor Edwin M. Lee; TJPA Executive Director Maria Ayerdi-Kaplan, Chair of the TJPA Board and Supervisor Jane Kim, along with other board members, as well as Boston Properties Chairman and CEO Mortimer B. Zuckerman; and Hines Chairman Gerald D. Hines.

"The sale of the Transbay Transit Tower property is a transformative moment for San Francisco," said Executive Director of the TJPA, Maria Ayerdi-Kaplan. "The Tower and the Transbay Transit Center will stand at the center of one of the most forward-looking transit-oriented developments in the world today."

Zuckerman commented, "We are dedicated to making this an iconic tower that will stand as a landmark for all who travel to San Francisco and add to its appeal as one of our most sought after 24/7 cities in the U.S. on top of being the technology capital of the world."

Hines Senior Managing Director Paul Paradis notes, "Tenant interest in the financial, professional services and tech sectors has been extremely high. Now that we are closing on the land and moving full speed ahead with the design, I'm confident that discussions will progress into leasing quickly. Transbay will be a new icon for the city and state, but also a beacon for a progressive anchor tenant looking for the finest, sustainable office space."

peanut gallery Mar 27, 2013 1:19 AM

There was a time I would have been really excited about that news. Unfortunately, I've been so disillusioned by the degradation of the terminal and tower that it's just another project to me now. Frankly, it feels like this entire proposal has been one giant bait and switch, but I doubt Hines planned this from the start. From the reduced price (down to basically what Rockefeller/SOM pitched), to the reduced height, to the dopey slits, to the terminal itself maybe losing its glass curtain wall, it seems like everything I found interesting that was originally promised has been stripped away. I'm far more excited about 50 First, 190 Fremont and just about everything going up on Rincon Hill than this.

Oh well. I won't belabor the point because I don't want to be the guy who constantly complains about a given project. I've said my piece and I'll try not to comment about it anymore. Hopefully I'll be proven wrong in the long run, and there are plenty of other projects to keep me occupied in the meantime.

viewguysf Mar 27, 2013 1:37 AM

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Originally Posted by peanut gallery (Post 6068062)
There was a time I would have been really excited about that news. Unfortunately, I've been so disillusioned by the degradation of the terminal and tower that it's just another project to me now. Frankly, it feels like this entire proposal has been one giant bait and switch, but I doubt Hines planned this from the start. From the reduced price (down to basically what Rockefeller/SOM pitched), to the reduced height, to the dopey slits, to the terminal itself maybe losing its glass curtain wall, it seems like everything I found interesting that was originally promised has been stripped away. I'm far more excited about 50 First, 190 Fremont and just about everything going up on Rincon Hill than this.

Oh well. I won't belabor the point because I don't want to be the guy who constantly complains about a given project. I've said my piece and I'll try not to comment about it anymore. Hopefully I'll be proven wrong in the long run, and there are plenty of other projects to keep me occupied in the meantime.

I'm still jazzed about it because of the height and think it is going to make a dramatic statement on the skyline. It's also directly in my east northeast line of view and I'll be able to see it even from the back corner of my living room! I can't wait!

easy as pie Mar 27, 2013 2:17 AM

yeah, this one will be a fabulous addition to views from almost anywhere in the city, lounging at dolores park? beautiful view. sitting around at jessie square? beautiful view. coming over the bay bridge? beautiful view. from marin, this thing will look great. and beyond the height it'll do a huge amount of work getting us past our table top, bland skyline.

peanut gallery Mar 27, 2013 2:27 AM

^That's a really good point. No matter what, a new pinnacle of this height will make the skyline more intriguing.

viewguy - that's another thing to look forward to: your photos of it rising!

Roadcruiser1 Mar 27, 2013 4:19 AM

Realize that this building will be completed a year before the Wilshire Grand Tower in Los Angeles. This will make the Transbay Tower the tallest building in the West Coast for a year if everything goes according to plan.

Edit: Some news from several months ago gives us hope that this building might have an observation deck. Apparently now that the building is under construction they are going to look into it.

http://inhabitat.com/san-franciscos-...he-west-coast/

http://sfist.com/2012/10/19/planning...ly_oks_wes.php

mt_climber13 Mar 27, 2013 6:07 AM

"Now that we are closing on the land and moving full speed ahead with the design, I'm confident that discussions will progress into leasing quickly."

Does this mean that the design is not finalized and still being perfected?

Have the transbay parcels even been height approved by the BOS and planning yet?

Roadcruiser1 Mar 27, 2013 6:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wakamesalad (Post 6068357)
"Now that we are closing on the land and moving full speed ahead with the design, I'm confident that discussions will progress into leasing quickly."

Does this mean that the design is not finalized and still being perfected?

Have the transbay parcels even been height approved by the BOS and planning yet?

The tower has already been approved quite a while ago, and the design has already been perfected. Groundbreaking is later today. They are just trying to get tenants. Otherwise they are going to be building an empty building.

However the terminal building's design hasn't been finalized yet. http://www.sfgate.com/bayarea/place/...#photo-4332517

cv94117 Mar 27, 2013 4:57 PM

No Groundbreaking, Really
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Roadcruiser1 (Post 6068366)
The tower has already been approved quite a while ago, and the design has already been perfected. Groundbreaking is later today. They are just trying to get tenants. Otherwise they are going to be building an empty building.

However the terminal building's design hasn't been finalized yet. http://www.sfgate.com/bayarea/place/...#photo-4332517

Not really a groundbreaking today. Just a ceremony/PR event to note the transfer of title and payment of $192M to Transbay. Actual groundbreaking and start of construction won't be until Summer at best. If that happens, should be completed way before the new Terminal which I've heard is delayed far more than what they're admitting publically.

Roadcruiser1 Mar 28, 2013 10:24 PM

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Originally Posted by cv94117 (Post 6068722)
Not really a groundbreaking today. Just a ceremony/PR event to note the transfer of title and payment of $192M to Transbay. Actual groundbreaking and start of construction won't be until Summer at best. If that happens, should be completed way before the new Terminal which I've heard is delayed far more than what they're admitting publically.

It was an actual groundbreaking. http://www.nbcbayarea.com/news/local...200351781.html. This building should be moved to the Supertall Construction thread now.

cv94117 Mar 28, 2013 10:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Roadcruiser1 (Post 6070673)

Uh, no it wasn't. Just because they took some pictures while they shoved some shovels into some dirt specially piled on the site doesn't mean they are starting construction. You won't see construction on the site related to the tower for months. Design's not even finished yet. It was just a photo op.

tall/awkward Mar 29, 2013 9:33 PM

My fellow architecture enthusiasts,
I for one am excited about the Transbay Tower. It's easy to get discouraged during the design process of a building compared to seeing the finished product. Transamerica has always been one of my favs, but to have seen it cut down from its original 1150 feet, and the "ears" added to it would have been frustrating. But in the end, in a city full of NIMBYS, after an era (the 1990s) in which there was almost nothing built of any size, it feels like a miracle to me to see a building twice the height of the original 550 feet proposed for it! And the slots at the top, while a very different look than what we're used to, I think will make it more interesting, especially when they are lit at night.

1977 Mar 30, 2013 3:26 AM

Tally me up as another person happy to see this thing rise. I really believe it's going to be a stunner once it's built. Keep in mind, this is going to be taller (spire included) than the Chrysler Building in NY, which is a pretty big deal for a town notorious for its NIMBYs. I never thought I would see the day.

1977 Apr 1, 2013 3:26 AM

Not that I care either way, but I found this to be an interesting quote:

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San Francisco, Los Angeles vie for tallest skyscraper

"Soon to be the West Coast's tallest building," Lee crowed in a statement, "the Transbay tower benefits not only a world-class transit facility but also represents the strength of our city's recovery."

Asked repeatedly about the Wilshire Grand, the communications team for the Transbay Joint Powers Authority at first ignored the question, then threw a knuckle ball. Spokesman Adam Alberti said a "superstructure" of some kind will be added to the Transbay tower that will likely bring it above 1,100 feet, though fact sheets and renderings do not indicate such a feature.
http://www.mercurynews.com/san-mateo...est-skyscraper

mt_climber13 Apr 1, 2013 4:56 AM

I knew it! This WILL be the tallest tower in the west coast, and the design has yet to be finalized. I'm guessing this will reach the original proposed 1200' ;)

1977 Apr 1, 2013 5:19 AM

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Originally Posted by wakamesalad (Post 6073845)
I knew it! This WILL be the tallest tower in the west coast, and the design has yet to be finalized. I'm guessing this will reach the original proposed 1200' ;)

It's possible. If I remember correctly, One Rincon Hill (tower 1) was pretty much sold as a 550 foot tower until ground was broken. As we know, that tower ended up being over 640 feet tall.

Or maybe, as stated, a surprise addition to the crown? Similar to this (one of my favorite buildings anywhere):

Quote:

Prior to its completion, the building stood about even with a rival project at 40 Wall Street, designed by H. Craig Severance. Severance increased the height of his project and then publicly claimed the title of the world's tallest building (this distinction excluded structures that were not fully habitable, such as the Eiffel Tower). In response, Van Alen obtained permission for a 38-meter (125 ft) long spire and had it secretly constructed inside the frame of the building. The spire was delivered to the site in four different sections. On October 23, 1929, the bottom section of the spire was hoisted onto the top of the building's dome and lowered into the 66th floor of the building. The other remaining sections of the spire were hoisted and riveted to the first one in sequential order in just 90 minutes.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chrysler_Building

Roadcruiser1 Apr 1, 2013 5:37 AM

I am still waiting for news on the observation deck ideas for this tower. One thing is for certain the design for the upper portions of the tower is still uncertain. We might even get a spire on this tower.

tech12 Apr 1, 2013 5:39 AM

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Originally Posted by 1977 (Post 6073848)
It's possible. If I remember correctly, One Rincon Hill (tower 1) was pretty much sold as a 550 foot tower until ground was broken. As we know, that tower ended up being over 640 feet tall.

Or maybe, as stated, a surprise addition to the crown? Similar to this (one of my favorite buildings anywhere):


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chrysler_Building

If they add a spire to the Transbay tower....:slob:

That could be amazing. I hope this news of a "superstructure" (whatever that may be....spire? antennae? a crown on top of a crown? Alien docking platform?) is true.

fflint Apr 1, 2013 5:40 AM

I would love to see TBT taller than currently proposed. I wish any height increase could be via occupied floors, but I'm not complaining if we just get a super-spire.


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