Now that, my friend, is a plan.
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So. Which airlines who will stay at entire T5 or go to T2? Can you guess?
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T2/T3 - AA and One World alliance members T5- Delta, Sky Team Alliance members and all others It’ll be interesting how this all is phased in. They can’t just demolish T2 from the get go. I’m guessing the C extension satellite, the new regional satellite and the T5 9 gate expansion (with Delta moving in) all has to be completed before the current T2 can be torn down. |
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One question I have is the 9-gate T5 expansion actually physically underway at this time? They had demolished the old cargo building but no construction, that I've seen, has actually started. Maybe they wanted to get these negotiations finished before awarding the contract.
I typically fly out of T3 and while I'd welcome a renovation if they enlarged/remodeled the bathrooms, redo all the concessions, spiff up the finishes, and plop down more seating with power I'd be pretty content. There is only so much that can be done inside the existing concourse envelope anyway. |
^ Best news on the year.. O'Hare is the engine of the Chicago economy. Every major corporate relo cites air connectivity as an important ingredient in the decision formula.
I hope the Rahm detractors realize what a master accomplishment this is for the city. The Delta group should be very pleased with their enhance amenities and position. Almost like a 3rd hub. And the plan allows for future westward expansion into a Satellite 3 & 4 as demand requires. Game changer indeed. |
Amazon, Amazon, are you watching this? :hyper: :rolleyes:
....I figured somebody was going to say something like that as a response to this news, so I might as well get ahead of things.. |
As others have already pointed out, the expansion is needed and the additional gates should go a long way in helping modernize some of the terminals.
I, for one, am most excited about the potential new trippy mega underground walkway that would need to connect the new B, C, and D(?) gates in T1. The one between B and C now looks like it probably wouldn't line up with the expansion. Hopefully whatever serves the new gates leans into that same kind of quasi-absurd aesthetic. The down side is I will legit have to leave earlier in the morning if I am flying out of D. It will be a decent hike from security. |
This looks like a fantastic plan. And something that was said back in the Daley administration when runway expansion came up was: who else has room to expand like this? DFW? Denver? But not LAX, SFO, JFK, MIA or ATL.
I know a lot of people are interested in landing an HQ2 or something like that. I believe this project is an HQ2. It's the same thing. Chicago's not real likely to land a 50,000 tech headquarters, but this airport project assures that an equivalent amount of investment is going to occur in Chicago in the next couple decades. |
Yeah seriously, $8 billion over 8 years is $1 billion a year. Not including the multiplier effect of this money, that's about a 0.2% bump in GDP for the metro area every year for the next 8 years straight just from direct spending on this project. If you count the multiplier effect I'm sure this is equivalent to 1% additional GDP for nearly a decade. And even that isn't considering what savings this will have from reducing delays or the benefits in terms of attracting yet more businesses seeking connectivity to the area.
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It's critically important that Chicago gets this done. Just imagine if they can combine this plan with an underground hyperloop-type-thing with 10 minute rides to Block 37. We just need Elon Musk to bankroll it as a demonstration project.
An interesting detail they mentioned was dual 50,000 sqft lounges in the new T2, one for United and one for American. That is enormous. The AMEX lounge at LGA is 5,000 sqft for comparison. |
I like the idea of moving Runway 4L-22R to the far NW of the airfield. That would free up better terminal councourse layouts than the newest one presented here. Also I feel like I-190 should be realigned so that Terminal 5 can really be expanded. UAL would become huge with this current plan. It also looks very disjointed. Anything is an improvement but things could be cleaned up.
Google Maps work in progress of new plan plus more ideas best viewed in Satellite view |
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From Chicago to Cleveland or something like that, it would only be comfortable for passengers to be locked into a tube with no restroom or exit if the trip was very short. Which means that it has to be very fast. Which I believe is possible, but which also means that it's going to be very uncomfortable unless the trip is extremely linear. The route couldn't simply follow I-80 or I-90's rights of way, which means it would be expensive due to securing land. I think a 250 mile trip is probably the sweet spot. L.A. to Vegas or Dubai to noplace or something like that. |
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Musk just flung a car into solar orbit beyond Mars while successfully returning 2 out of 3 of the booster rockets. He is playing catch with rocket fairings off the Kennedy Space Center as we speak. If he can do that, figuring out how to halve or quarter (or more) the cost of tunneling is certainly something he might pull off. It really is absurd how much it costs to build below grade infrastructure in the US, and if Musk and master it, he'll make a shit load of money Hyperloop or not.
It's not smart to bet against someone who can do stuff like this: |
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